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Imperfect, you didn't address any of the points I raised and you didn't address any from Starcrash before me.

Here's the thing, you involve yourself in a discussion on evolution when you attack the theory as false, that is fine, but then you make excuses not to engage in discussion. I think perhaps you do not feel confident enough to defend your position. I keep Wikipedia open on my desktop all the time when I am posting because people are always challenging me with things I don't know. For me forums are a great learning experience. I can't begin to tell you how much I've learned through discussions with Christians. If this is the reason for your hesitation just take one point at a time. I am certain I will be learning as much from you or even more than you do from me. Or perhaps evolution is just not something you care to know anything about?

As far as trusting Darwin goes, if he had written his book and that had been the end of it then I probably wouldn't know anything about the theory, but that's not what happened. Evolution took the scientific world by storm. I am not trusting in one man, but in an entire scientific establishment. And it is not just biologists that defend evolution but geneticists, geologists and other disciplines. You can say they are only men, but it is only men (and women) who constructed this scientific and technological wonder that we live in. Personally, I owe the medical scientific community my life. I have no doubt that the evolutionary biologists, and others, know what they are talking about.
i summed it up. you put your trust in a man.. man doesnt know. man has theories.

that about sums it up.

honestly, not to be disrespectful, but i have little interest in reading that rubbish.
 
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Really bad attitude for a christian "atheists make me sick. sick with emphasis."
 
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Really bad attitude for a christian "atheists make me sick. sick with emphasis."
just being honest. i dont like atheists... no i take that back. i know more atheists / agnostics personally than christians. "atheists" dont make me sick.. atheism makes me sick and the personal traits that come with it.
 
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Nothing is impossible with God, and if we are praying for them it WILL happen.
 
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i summed it up. you put your trust in a man.. man doesnt know. man has theories.

that about sums it up.
When I look around the world today and see technological wonders, medical advances and so on, and it is pretty clear that theories are often bang-on. You can't put a rover on Mars by dumb luck. I respectfully disagree with you.

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honestly, not to be disrespectful, but i have little interest in reading that rubbish.
Not a problem. You are not the first I've encountered who felt that way; but if I see you going after evolutionary theory again I will continue challenging you to back up your words with more than just empty rhetoric. :)

No hard feelings, I hope.
 
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Looking past the traits and looking into the heart and loving them anyway is what God would have us to do.
 
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Looking past the traits and looking into the heart and loving them anyway is what God would have us to do.
i do love them. i just dont like atheism. i have more atheist friends than christians.. which i have been trying to work toward changing.
 
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When I look around the world today and see technological wonders, medical advances and so on, and it is pretty clear that theories are often bang-on. You can't put a rover on Mars by dumb luck. I respectfully disagree with you.


Not a problem. You are not the first I've encountered who felt that way; but if I see you going after evolutionary theory again I will continue challenging you to back up your words with more than just empty rhetoric. :)

No hard feelings, I hope.
you call it empty rhetoric.. i call it simple logic.
 
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If atheists don't believe in God, then why do they get mad at Him?
If atheists don't think He is real, then why do they blame him for everything?
They don't blame God for everything, only the bad stuff, specifically, their own sins or mankinds' sins.

If people originated with or from monkeys, why then isn't it fully proven to be not a theory?
Why do they call it a theory, but still teach it through books and school?
I don't understand???????
I think a better question to ask is, why do atheists always bring up that the Bible was written by man, as if that somehow invalidates it, but yet they're so quick to believe the billions of years ago origin myth know as evolution, which was written by man?
 
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what makes me sick also is how they took God out of school because "you shouldnt force God on people", then turn around and shove the exact thing that opposes Gods existence in school... seems extremely contradicting to me. if you take God out of school, then its only right to keep evolution from school as well. that also has something to do with the increased amount of atheists in society. catch them young.

no question that its satans world.
 
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just being honest. i dont like atheists... no i take that back. i know more atheists / agnostics personally than christians. "atheists" dont make me sick.. atheism makes me sick and the personal traits that come with it.
What personal traits would that be? Just curious. :)

Actually, I don't think you can judge a person's traits without personally knowing them.
 
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you call it empty rhetoric.. i call it simple logic.
Imperfect, you did not present an argument. You did not address any points raised. You said you would not read the post Starcrash wrote if it said anything about Darwin, and you called it "trash". I can't respond to your rebuttals because you made none. Dissing, which is all you did, is not a form of logic.
 
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Imperfect, you did not present an argument. You did not address any points raised. You said you would not read the post Starcrash wrote if it said anything about Darwin, and you called it "trash". I can't respond to your rebuttals because you made none. Dissing, which is all you did, is not a form of logic.
reading comprehension is currently an issue or you are blatantly ignoring what i said and said many times.

darwin is merely a man, like you or me. man without God / Jesus doesnt know the truth.. you put your trust and faith in a man. man simply has theories.

this is truth.
 
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im still waiting on the explanation on why they only have 5-6 skulls during the evolution process from ape to man... how can they only have 5-6.. so those 5-6 are "stages"... so where are the other skulls in the mean time and in between time? did they just evaporate? disappear?

i mean, if a ape evolved from ape to man like a baby grows from baby to adult, then logically, there should be many more skulls than just the 5-6 that they have, right? right.
 
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what makes me sick also is how they took God out of school...
When I was in public school we still had religious training, Bible reading, and we said the Lord's Prayer every morning before classes started, but I was already an atheist by the time I reached grade four -- though I temporarily slipped back into belief about age sixteen.

The problem now is there are so many people of different religious beliefs in so many communities that you'd have to wonder whether putting God back into the schools is doable any more.

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because "you shouldnt force God on people", then turn around and shove the exact thing that opposes Gods existence in school... seems extremely contradicting to me. if you take God out of school, then its only right to keep evolution from school as well. that also has something to do with the increased amount of atheists in society. catch them young.
I work in a public school and I haven't seen evolution taught in the past 20 years. Maybe it is different where you are.
 
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When I was in public school we still had religious training, Bible reading, and we said the Lord's Prayer every morning before classes started, but I was already an atheist by the time I reached grade four -- though I temporarily slipped back into belief about age sixteen.

The problem now is there are so many people of different religious beliefs in so many communities that you'd have to wonder whether putting God back into the schools is doable any more.


I work in a public school and I haven't seen evolution taught in the past 20 years. Maybe it is different where you are.
i got suspended from high school in '04 i believe it was because i didnt feel that i should have to learn a scientific theory that goes against my beliefs.
 
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im still waiting on the explanation on why they only have 5-6 skulls during the evolution process from ape to man... how can they only have 5-6.. so those 5-6 are "stages"... so where are the other skulls in the mean time and in between time? did they just evaporate? disappear?

i mean, if a ape evolved from ape to man like a baby grows from baby to adult, then logically, there should be many more skulls than just the 5-6 that they have, right? right.
Still waiting Imperfect? This is the first time I've seen you ask this. :)

In any case I don't know where you got your information from, but I think it is off the mark by a considerable amount. Can you track that source down?

I'll get back to you on this.
 
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Still waiting Imperfect? This is the first time I've seen you ask this. :)

In any case I don't know where you got your information from, but I think it is off the mark by a considerable amount. Can you track that source down?

I'll get back to you on this.
i said it a couple pages back and what information? maybe you are not as enlightened as you would like to believe.