I am going to comment on this part of your post:
You said:
John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
The word "has" shows that from the moment of believing in Christ, the believer HAS eternal life.
Your conclusion here does not even have good grammatical sense.
How is that? I was pointing out the present tense for both 'believe' and 'has'. Essentially, a believing person possesses eternal life.
And that clearly means the MOMENT they believe they possess eternal life. iow, Jesus gives eternal life WHEN a person believes.
If you disagree, what verses show that the possession of eternal life is some time after believing?
[QUOT]This verse clearly states that the one hearing the Word and is believing on the one (The Father) who sent Christ, is proof that they already have eternal life.[/QUOTE]
No, that is poor grammatical sense. Jesus was speaking in the present tense. You're trying to force the past tense into the statement.
Do you think a person has eternal life before they believe? That's what it seems you believe.
Shall we break this verse down rather than just making it say what you want it to say. The verb tenses defined:
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that is hearing (Present Active Participle) my word, and is believing (Present Active Participle) him that sent (Aorist Active Participle) me, is having (Present Active Indicative) eternal life, and comes not (Present Indicative) into judgment, but has passed out (Perfect Active Indicative) of death into life.
So this verse is saying: Because one has passed out of death into life, that one can hear the Word and believe and is in possession of eternal life.
It doesn't say that at all. Yes, John used participles (he sure liked them). But the usual English translations mean the same thing.
Those who now believe now have eternal life.
[QUIOTE]Why do I say this is the proper interpretation?[/QUOTE]
I have no clue.
Because the Perfect tense verb was used in that ones "passing from death into life". Since the "Perfect tense" magnifies past action with continuing results, the one now hearing and believing, somewhere in the past, was granted eternal life and with the Perfect tense, was not only granted this life in the past but guarantees that they will continue in the state of being "passed out of" until the end of time. No greater verb tense, is used by the writers, than the Perfect tense.
Nope. It should be obvious that John wasn't referring to believing relative to his own present tense, but to those who believe, do so in their own present tense. So, whenever a person believes, it is the present tense WHEN they believe. That's all.
And, the MOMENT one believes, that is when they "have passed out of death into life". iow, the life that they pass INTO is eternal life, which is possessed the MOMENT one believes.
There is no way of knowing for certain, how far back in the past this verb takes us.
Doesn't matter. No one can perform an action in the past tense. When one does perform an action, it is in the present when they do it.
It may take us all the way back to eternity
Impossible. We didn't exist back then. Jesus was talking about WHEN one believes is when all the actions in the verse take place.
but I think it more reasonable, to assume it goes back to the "New Birth" All believers know, that the "new Birth" must take place first, in order to change ones "nature" from darkness and enmity with God, to light and love for God.
Nope. That is a Calvinist talking point.
There are no verses that show that regeneration, or the new birth, occurs BEFORE or SO THAT one can believe.
In fact, Eph 2:5 and 8 prove that both salvation and regeneration occur AFTER believing.
v.5 -
made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—
it is by grace you have been saved.
v.8 - For
it is by grace you have been saved,
through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
The red words refer to regeneration, and the blue words at the end of v.5 refer to salvation.
The end of v.5 is found at the beginning of v.8. Then Paul clarifies HOW both regeneration and salvation occur: "through faith", the green words.
This proves that regeneration is through faith and salvation is through faith.
iow, the faith is present BEFORE regeneration and salvation.
Those who teach or who believe that the "New Birth" takes place upon believing, are sadly and grievously misinformed or mistaken.
Hopefully Eph 2:5 and 8 will show you the truth.
A person will not choose to believe something, that is opposed to his/her very nature.
That is simply not true. Just another Calvinist talking point.
If ones old nature is "darkness" (John 3:19, Acts 26:18, 2 Cor. 6:14, Eph. 5:8, Col. 1:13), it will not choose "light", the complete opposite of that nature and it is totally unreasonable and illogical to believe it would. God must alter the fallen nature in order for one to desire to come to the light.
Nope. If this were true, why did God reveal Himself through creation to mankind so that no one has any excuse, and why did God create mankind with a conscience, with which to understand right from wrong??
He revealed Himself and gave man a conscience PRECISELY because man is able to believe or reject the gospel.
Do you understand that rejecting something is a choice. And a choice must have at least 2 options. In the case of rejecting, the other option is accepting or believing.
Acts 14:2 - But the
Jews who refused to believe stirred up the other Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brothers.
Acts 19:9 - But some of them became obstinate;
they refused to believe and publicly maligned the Way. So Paul left them. He took the disciples with him and had discussions daily in the lecture hall of Tyrannus.
Rev 16:9 - They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but
they refused to repent and glorify him.
Rev 16:11 - and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but
they refused to repent of what they had done.
These verses prove that man is able to believe and repent.
A person CANNOT refuse something they are unable to do. That would be an insane claim, to refuse what you can't do.