BLESSED ARE THE PERSECUTED

[1still_waters]

Oh good grief, I believe in preterism, predestination, mostly-cessation, and people scorn my stances. I don't consider it persecution for Christ. It's just that my strong opinions are disagreed strongly by some.

If someone doesn't agree with your Pentecostal beliefs, and such, it's not persecution for Christ.

Can't folks just come to terms that others disagree with certain strong beliefs strongly? Presence of strong disagreement of some of these schismatic type beliefs isn't persecution.

Anybody on this board could make the same case for "persecution" toward those who strongly disagree with them on schismatic type beliefs.

 

[unclefester]

]Is this post saying there is no persecution for believers in North America? What about the Word? If you do not, or you have not experienced persecution, perhaps there is something wrong with how you believe? Is there a new teaching that as believers one is not expected to suffer persecutions, or one is not expected to obey the Father, or perhaps one is supposed to live a luxurious life?[/SIZE]

Alright Jack ... I'll listen. You too Stephen63. Tell me ... tell all of us about the many and varied ways you two have suffered persecution for the cause of Christ. But before you do, can we agree that we've already covered the "horrific forum bullying" you guys "have had" to endure here on CC by us, the gang of satan ? Agreed ? Excellent ! Okay .... let's hear about the rest.

 

[Abiding]

12 religious ways to get revenge and look good in your own eyes:

1. make a thread that doesnt have their name...but describe them then like
all posts that agree with you.

2. make a thread showing you are an innocent martyr and pretend you have
been loving and noble through it all.

3. Quote Alot of scripture that doesnt apply

4. post in the thread the number of viewings of your thread to prove the good your doing. remember its good
at this time to humbly tell how your work is to protect the innocent.

5. be sure to mention all the friends of said individual your seeking revenge against are also "in on it"

6. in a pinch mention your spouse and how great you are in his or her eyes.

7. Show in your estimation how so many are against your theology and how that shows we are in the last days
of the apostasy.

8. find out their theological base and attack it and show in any way how they are hypocrites.

9. if they are of the opposite gender...play up gender inconsistencies with scripture.

10. While playing junior style psychological games be sure to try to keep them off balance by
telling them they are playing psychological games with you.

11. NEVER notice your insults while maximizing their insults openly.

12. Act noble only when necessary by confessing your sin publically it will do well to cover
up your vengeful motive and make you look humble...which is of great value.

Only after you use the 12 step method should you merely whine, but as a last resort
it has made some feel good after all....who can really turn the other cheek right?

 

[1still_waters]

Stephen I truly believe you to be an upright man of God. I just think you're going very extreme by thinking you're being persecuted on these forums.

 

[SarahM777]

12 religious ways to get revenge and look good in your own eyes:

1. make a thread that doesnt have their name...but describe them then like
all posts that agree with you.

2. make a thread showing you are an innocent martyr and pretend you have
been loving and noble through it all.

3. Quote Alot of scripture that doesnt apply

4. post in the thread the number of viewings of your thread to prove the good your doing. remember its good
at this time to humbly tell how your work is to protect the innocent.

5. be sure to mention all the friends of said individual your seeking revenge against are also "in on it"

6. in a pinch mention your spouse and how great you are in his or her eyes.

7. Show in your estimation how so many are against your theology and how that shows we are in the last days
of the apostasy.

8. find out their theological base and attack it and show in any way how they are hypocrites.

9. if they are of the opposite gender...play up gender inconsistencies with scripture.

10. While playing junior style psychological games be sure to try to keep them off balance by
telling them they are playing psychological games with you.

11. NEVER notice your insults while maximizing their insults openly.

12. Act noble only when necessary by confessing your sin publically it will do well to cover
up your vengeful motive and make you look humble...which is of great value.

Only after you use the 12 step method should you merely whine, but as a last resort
it has made some feel good after all....who can really turn the other cheek right?

Would you guys stop that,when you post it that way I keep getting root beer up my nose.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

12 religious ways to get revenge and look good in your own eyes:

1. make a thread that doesnt have their name...but describe them then like
all posts that agree with you.

2. make a thread showing you are an innocent martyr and pretend you have
been loving and noble through it all.

3. Quote Alot of scripture that doesnt apply

4. post in the thread the number of viewings of your thread to prove the good your doing. remember its good
at this time to humbly tell how your work is to protect the innocent.

5. be sure to mention all the friends of said individual your seeking revenge against are also "in on it"

6. in a pinch mention your spouse and how great you are in his or her eyes.

7. Show in your estimation how so many are against your theology and how that shows we are in the last days
of the apostasy.

8. find out their theological base and attack it and show in any way how they are hypocrites.

9. if they are of the opposite gender...play up gender inconsistencies with scripture.

10. While playing junior style psychological games be sure to try to keep them off balance by
telling them they are playing psychological games with you.

11. NEVER notice your insults while maximizing their insults openly.

12. Act noble only when necessary by confessing your sin publically it will do well to cover
up your vengeful motive and make you look humble...which is of great value.

Only after you use the 12 step method should you merely whine, but as a last resort
it has made some feel good after all....who can really turn the other cheek right?

sounds like some great TiPs for the OP

 

[unclefester]

Stephen I truly believe you to be an upright man of God. I just think you're going very extreme by thinking you're being persecuted on these forums.

Roger that. I believe the same. He might be surprised to see me write/say this. But I believe it to be true, our differing points of view on some things notwithstanding.

 

[JaumeJ]

You know you did almost tempt me, and I did begin to write about a very small portion of what it is to walk with the Lord, Yeshua, and to be disliked and mistreated for it, but I will not be tempted by a scoffer, and you are scoffing.

By the way, to you and your cohorts, read through the Word and learn just how sinful words can be. It is apparent you have never done this, and if you have and you know already, shame on you.

Alright Jack ... I'll listen. You too Stephen63. Tell me ... tell all of us about the many and varied ways you two have suffered persecution for the cause of Christ. But before you do, can we agree that we've already covered the "horrific forum bullying" you guys "have had" to endure here on CC by us, the gang of satan ? Agreed ? Excellent ! Okay .... let's hear about the rest.

 

[JaumeJ]

Words are like darts through the heart when evil is intended. Following are just some of the teachings of Yeshua from the Proverbs and from the New Testament.

Do not say words in the forum are not harmful when evil is the intent, and do not continue to wink the eye saying "it is in jest." That too is a lie. Those of you who say your humor is such are deceived. Do not continue injuring the innocent by guiding them to lies. If you are not clear on the harm words alone do, it is your duty to learn from the Master. If this is not in your will, continue in disobedience, there is no hope for you.


　
Pro 10:31
The mouth of the just bringeth forth wisdom: but the froward tongue shall be cut out.

Pro 10:32
The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable: but the mouth of the wicked speaketh frowardness.


　

Jas 3:5
Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

Jas 3:6
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

Jas 3:7
For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

Jas 3:8
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Jas 3:9
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.


Jas 3:10
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

 

[SarahM777]

You know you did almost tempt me, and I did begin to write about a very small portion of what it is to walk with the Lord, Yeshua, and to be disliked and mistreated for it, but I will not be tempted by a scoffer, and you are scoffing.

By the way, to you and your cohorts, read through the Word and learn just how sinful words can be. It is apparent you have never done this, and if you have and you know already, shame on you.

Jamie,

Are you going to try talking to you're cohorts about doing the very thing? Do you think that you are that innocent that you haven't done the same thing? Or can someone find that you too have done the same thing? Or can someone find that most have used the tit for tat mentality?

 

[JaumeJ]

My cohorts are all who are washed by the Blood of the Lamb. If you peruse what is written by the brethren as opposed to those who do no use learning from the Word as Source Authority, you will see, teaching the truth is never harmful, though it may not always please the ignorant.

Jamie,

Are you going to try talking to you're cohorts about doing the very thing? Do you think that you are that innocent that you haven't done the same thing? Or can someone find that you too have done the same thing? Or can someone find that most have used the tit for tat mentality?

 

[SarahM777]

My cohorts are all who are washed by the Blood of the Lamb. If you peruse what is written by the brethren as opposed to those who do no use learning from the Word as Source Authority, you will see, teaching the truth is never harmful, though it may not always please the ignorant.

Insults are from the Word? That is the point I am making. Do you want someone to go through the posts and point out where your cohorts have done the very same thing? I have seen it from BOTH sides,that is my point. That is the point it's seems you want to ignore. It's OK to imply that some in here are on the same level as Muslims,that if taken far enough it can imply they are terrorists? You don't see anything wrong with that?

 

[JaumeJ]

I have been asked direct questions to which I have done my best to reply by the knowledge afforded all by the Word. This OP is being redirected to anything but the subject in question.

You yourself have made comment and quiery to my post on the subject of the OP in reference to another topic, spiraling away from the teaching that all who name the name of Jesus Christ, Yeshua, will suffer persecution.

However in respect to your new subject, I tell you, you are construing hard lessons that are from the Master as insults because the opposing cohorts are incapable of putting forth their own views with knowledge from the Word, while those who know the Word from the Master are attempting to teach them something they would rather not hear. If a person is truly in Yeshua, he will endure persecution. Anyone here stating otherwise is saying Jesus Christ is a liar.

Now the OP is Blessed are the Persecuted. Let us attempt to remain on the subject.

Insults are from the Word? That is the point I am making. Do you want someone to go through the posts and point out where your cohorts have done the very same thing? I have seen it from BOTH sides,that is my point. That is the point it's seems you want to ignore. It's OK to imply that some in here are on the same level as Muslims,that if taken far enough it can imply they are terrorists? You don't see anything wrong with that?

 

[FIRE_of_ELIJAH]

Christian life is not picnic party. We are prone to persecution,while some were even got killed because of their faith. Do not let the persecution overcome you but overcome them with gladness for the sake of the Gospel. The Lord promised us reward for the faithful to the very end.

1Corinthians 2:9 However, as it is written:"What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived" the things God has prepared for those who love Him--

 

[SarahM777]

I have been asked direct questions to which I have done my best to reply by the knowledge afforded all by the Word. This OP is being redirected to anything but the subject in question.

You yourself have made comment and quiery to my post on the subject of the OP in reference to another topic, spiraling away from the teaching that all who name the name of Jesus Christ, Yeshua, will suffer persecution.

However in respect to your new subject, I tell you, you are construing hard lessons that are from the Master as insults because the opposing cohorts are incapable of putting forth their own views with knowledge from the Word, while those who know the Word from the Master are attempting to teach them something they would rather not hear. If a person is truly in Yeshua, he will endure persecution. Anyone here stating otherwise is saying Jesus Christ is a liar.

Now the OP is Blessed are the Persecuted. Let us attempt to remain on the subject.

You didn't answer the question,nor will you use the same standard. Sorry Jamie,when one claims INNOCENCE when one is doing the very same thing it makes one out to be both a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE. Need I remind you of that? Or do you choose to ignore that? IS COMPARING SOME TO MUSLIMS an insult or not? Yes or No? Is that not doing the very same thing that the OP is railing against? Yes or no? Is the OP truly innocent of not doing the very he claims others are doing?Yes or No?

 

[JaumeJ]

Unsubscribe and start your very own thread. The circles are dizzifying.

You didn't answer the question,nor will you use the same standard. Sorry Jamie,when one claims INNOCENCE when one is doing the very same thing it makes one out to be both a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE. Need I remind you of that? Or do you choose to ignore that? IS COMPARING SOME TO MUSLIMS an insult or not? Yes or No? Is that not doing the very same thing that the OP is railing against? Yes or no? Is the OP truly innocent of not doing the very he claims others are doing?Yes or No?

 

[SarahM777]

Unsubscribe and start your very own thread. The circles are dizzifying.

Your missing the point. You have people claiming INNOCENCE turning around doing the very same thing and then LYING about how INNOCENT they are. Since when is it right? Or did God change His standard? Or is it OK because they are part of "my" group? You avoid answering those questions and it makes me wonder why?

 

[JaumeJ]

Hi-jack. This is no longer the OP, it is your personal campaign. A new thread with your own subject is in order. Incidentally, I did answer your question more than adequately as a matter of good manners. If you did not understand, perhaps the good and true remedy is your own thread, or you could address those whom you believe to be in some kind of abject error. Thank you very much.

Your missing the point. You have people claiming INNOCENCE turning around doing the very same thing and then LYING about how INNOCENT they are. Since when is it right? Or did God change His standard? Or is it OK because they are part of "my" group? You avoid answering those questions and it makes me wonder why?

 

[SarahM777]

Hi-jack. This is no longer the OP, it is your personal campaign. A new thread with your own subject is in order. Incidentally, I did answer your question more than adequately as a matter of good manners. If you did not understand, perhaps the good and true remedy is your own thread, or you could address those whom you believe to be in some kind of abject error. Thank you very much.

Sorry Jamie,

Won't do because this is exactly the type of stuff the OP is addressing. And no you did not answer the questions. You skirted them. And yes I am addressing the OP and he has yet to answer for this because this is EXACTLY the same type of stuff he is complaining about.

 

[JaumeJ]

Here are two replies responding directly to your off-the-op questions below.

Perhaps if you think in terms of the sources of answers by the opposing forces, it may help you.

Of course a person in Yeshua will be offended when someone answers from the abyss of his own mind with no regard for what Jesus teaches on a given subject. I am offended by people speaking out of darkness. Light has nothing to do with it.

Of course a person who does not truly know the Messiah will be offended by any response to questions on any given subject if the light hurts their eyes, and it is offensive to them. Darkness has nothing to do with the light.

All who are capable of not being offended by the truth, on the contrary, rejoice in receiveing it are drawn by the Father to Yeshua.

Now, if you are not satisfied, you may post your own thread, though I cannot suggest what subject you could possibly use.

I have been asked direct questions to which I have done my best to reply by the knowledge afforded all by the Word. This OP is being redirected to anything but the subject in question.

You yourself have made comment and quiery to my post on the subject of the OP in reference to another topic, spiraling away from the teaching that all who name the name of Jesus Christ, Yeshua, will suffer persecution.

However in respect to your new subject, I tell you, you are construing hard lessons that are from the Master as insults because the opposing cohorts are incapable of putting forth their own views with knowledge from the Word, while those who know the Word from the Master are attempting to teach them something they would rather not hear. If a person is truly in Yeshua, he will endure persecution. Anyone here stating otherwise is saying Jesus Christ is a liar.

Now the OP is Blessed are the Persecuted. Let us attempt to remain on the subject.

My cohorts are all who are washed by the Blood of the Lamb. If you peruse what is written by the brethren as opposed to those who do no use learning from the Word as Source Authority, you will see, teaching the truth is never harmful, though it may not always please the ignorant.