Born Again Speaking in Tongues

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I guess Scripture isn’t enough for you.

How ironic.
Scripture according to your interpretation. should know better than that my friend we all have passages which prove our point but it does. It mean they do

If you had examples you would share them. The fact you do not speaks louder than your faulty interpretation of a few verses in fact it speaks very loud.

And please stop with the silly attacks that could be called bullying (not my words)
 

Dino246

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Scripture according to your interpretation. should know better than that my friend we all have passages which prove our point but it does. It mean they do

If you had examples you would share them. The fact you do not speaks louder than your faulty interpretation of a few verses in fact it speaks very loud.

And please stop with the silly attacks that could be called bullying (not my words)
Attacks? Bullying? Bahahaha!!!!

You’re actually quite funny.
 

dcontroversal

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If you will not receive the word of God you do not have prophecy. The word of God is profitable for correction and instruction unto righteousness.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Amen to that.........the written word over rides any and all Johnny come lately so called prophets........
 

dcontroversal

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I'm not being a wise guy, but can you speak some tongues here? Or Prophecy something from the Lord?
I can...three words rejected or swept under the table on a regular basis ----->aufhören, verschwinden, scheitern
 

garee

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You have an amazing ability to respond with irrelevance.

You made up a wacky definition for "circular reasoning". You made up a wacky definition for "cessationist". Just use the words with the meanings they have. If you don't understand the term, look it up.

I've dealt with your narrow-minded view on the gift of tongues... at great length. It's one thing to disagree honestly, but you have stubbornly refused to step away from your errors.
Mr. Garee Wacky, narrow minded did not make anything up . Laws are made up of circular reasoning. Philosophy never connects the circle. No seal. Spirals out of control .The fruit of God's Spirit provides self control .Its circle that cannot be broken .

Not a salvation issue with me its more how can we hear and seek His approval as he lovingly commanded .He warns of those who do say we need a man seen to teach us and reveals them as antichrists.

A "cessationist" is someone who ceases to believe .Called unbelievers.

In a Christian usage . Where do you think the meaning cessations came from if not those that are trying their best to widen the authority prophecy breaking the 7 seals? Why was it coined in Christianity to begin with?

For the short history of those who speak unknowns call Pentecostals . Sign seekers . . . . as the wonderment gospel is not to be confused with faith which many do make it

Wonders are not faith, as the very source . Faith establishes a law made to be understood. . . called; "The law of faith". There is no such thing as a law of wonderment, amazement, mysticism as a unknown language. The gospel of don't believe understandable words just be filled with wonderment, many outlets are available to a sign and wonder church .

The Holy Spirit's narrow-minded view on the gift of tongues. Was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Just look into the window of those who fall backward and see no evil in doing so .Ask them why they se no evil in attempting to make that sign without effect? Just as the tongues sign they fit together

What does the sign confirm according to the law? You keep saying something but no answers? Does it represent belief or unbelief. Cannot serve two masters?
 

Dino246

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Mr. Garee Wacky, narrow minded did not make anything up . Laws are made up of circular reasoning. Philosophy never connects the circle. No seal. Spirals out of control.
Incorrect. You have ignored my challenge to provide three independent supporting references for your definition. I renew that challenge.

A "cessationist" is someone who ceases to believe .Called unbelievers.
Again, incorrect.

You're only making yourself look foolish by sticking to your incorrect invented definitions.
 

garee

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Incorrect. You have ignored my challenge to provide three independent supporting references for your definition. I renew that challenge.


Again, incorrect.

You're only making yourself look foolish by sticking to your incorrect invented definitions.
Hi thanks for the reply.

I would ask. Three independent philosophical supporting references? What is wrong with looking at his interpretation the Bible.? He informs us we do not need any man to teach us. Even the Son of man, Jesus would not stand in the holy unseen place of the glory of the Father. But said; only God is good. The devil did flee.

He promises that he will remind us what he has taught us so we can have a living hope to grow by. . . A great blessing.

Not sure the verse I am offering below applies but we must be careful how we hear what the Spirit says to the churches/ denominations.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you "through" philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Circular reasonings as a law of faith (believing God) is not a philosophical theory .

Those who would seem to clump Christianity into the mix of Pagan forms of government walking by sight have nothing to connect their reasoning to.

Jesus calls them a evil generation (no faith that is needed to believe God not seen ) They it would seem knew nothing at first of the food as perfect law of God's will he feeds his children of faith with. Jesus said His food was to do the will of his Father not seen . the generation of faith. The disciples then knew according to the reasoning of the law of God what Jesus meant when he said I have food you know not of. He used many parables to help them understand what they could not see hidden from those who had no faith .

It would seem you are clumping Christianity into one of the religions of this world as if the Kingdom of God was of this world. His glory departed as it would seem day four. Corruption began its work .

It would seem that the Holy Spirit describes the law of his circular reasoning: "from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it(never ending circle of Spirit life)

Psalm 19:6-8 King James Version (KJV)His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

The perfect law of reasoning ... For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:...……………. a living faith not one that falls backward in judgement

What does the sign of tongues confirm according to the Bible (the circular reasoning of God, as the Perfect Law of God) ?
 
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Attacks? Bullying? Bahahaha!!!!

You’re actually quite funny.
Actually I did it as a joke. (Notice I said not my words) Since someone mentioned two bullies in here a few days ago. I do not think what you did is any more of a bully than what those two did. You just stated your case (although with a little extra)

Its all good bro.. We will have to agree to disagree, not worth being divided over.. The topic of this thread is more important, and we need to stand against it.
 

Dino246

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Hi thanks for the reply.

I would ask. Three independent philosophical supporting references? What is wrong with looking at his interpretation the Bible.? He informs us we do not need any man to teach us. Even the Son of man, Jesus would not stand in the holy unseen place of the glory of the Father. But said; only God is good. The devil did flee.

He promises that he will remind us what he has taught us so we can have a living hope to grow by. . . A great blessing.

Not sure the verse I am offering below applies but we must be careful how we hear what the Spirit says to the churches/ denominations.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you "through" philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Circular reasonings as a law of faith (believing God) is not a philosophical theory .

Those who would seem to clump Christianity into the mix of Pagan forms of government walking by sight have nothing to connect their reasoning to.

Jesus calls them a evil generation (no faith that is needed to believe God not seen ) They it would seem knew nothing at first of the food as perfect law of God's will he feeds his children of faith with. Jesus said His food was to do the will of his Father not seen . the generation of faith. The disciples then knew according to the reasoning of the law of God what Jesus meant when he said I have food you know not of. He used many parables to help them understand what they could not see hidden from those who had no faith .

It would seem you are clumping Christianity into one of the religions of this world as if the Kingdom of God was of this world. His glory departed as it would seem day four. Corruption began its work .

It would seem that the Holy Spirit describes the law of his circular reasoning: "from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it(never ending circle of Spirit life)

Psalm 19:6-8 King James Version (KJV)His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

The perfect law of reasoning ... For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:...……………. a living faith not one that falls backward in judgement

What does the sign of tongues confirm according to the Bible (the circular reasoning of God, as the Perfect Law of God) ?
Wow, are you ever stubborn! You are dead wrong on this matter. Your arguments are irrelevant, your evidence is nonexistent, and your position is indefensible.
 

garee

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Wow, are you ever stubborn! You are dead wrong on this matter. Your arguments are irrelevant, your evidence is nonexistent, and your position is indefensible.

My wife is the stubborn one. She draws circles around me. I am stubborn about that when she is asleep .

His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of heaven: therefore from the end of the heaven, unto the ends of its 7 perfect seals :

We defend the circle of Christ's faith that works in us as a perfect law. It defends us if we obey what it says. Put on the armor of faith arm oneself with His words of faith the sword of God. Defend it will defend those within in its circle.

What does the sign of tongues confirm. Unbelief no faith, or beleive salvation? Don't be stubborn . Which master belief or unbelief?
 

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Sorry just couldn't pass this up. Just be careful what you wish for.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
That means the 5 wise with lamps blazing with fire should have been smart like you and the OTHER 5.
 

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The word,in its purest form is a harmony from cover to cover with Jesus as the heart,but seeking the bride and untimately David's throne in a new heaven and new earth.
Bride sought,gathered and by his side for eternity.
2 redeemed components
Earth
The bride
That panaramic purpose is illuminated by the Holy Spirit.
The bible you read is a book.
Power ceased in your book
The bride is an abstract.
Once you are filled with the Holy Spirit you commune with Jesus and the Holy Spirit in intimacy.
That dynamic COMPLETELY changes the impact of the word,because they/heaven,not only illuminate the word but guide in spoken commentary.
Many times the Holy Spirit says to me "read it again" i do and don't get it. He says it over and over and each time i know he is fixing to show me.

That is how i saw that nugget in acts 2.
Where peter quoting Joel says the gifts/tongues/bap in H. S. Continue (never ceasing) till the moon turns to blood.
I read that many times never seeing that the Holy Spirit destroyed the error that ANYTHING ceased.
The word was never meant for clever,dynamic,animated,minds to exault followers to follow their cunning flowery way with mere intellect.
In fact what will cease and fail is that mental dogma.
The 5 wise ran circles around the fiolish that CEASED getting the oil (Holy Spirit)
Get the oil while you can.
No oil after the rapture.

Like you say "you and your pals will find out"
Read the book of ruth then rev 5
Then the last supper dialog
Then mat 25
Then rev 19

The bride and groom
Heavens big,big purpose
(That almost nobody is talking about)
Wow
Seems impossible,but it is the result of a non illuminated body of christ.
Possibly 95% or more,in a backslidden non illuminated mental foggy walk,secular and without oil.
May God help us to be flames of fire.
Fire needs oil
OIL!!!!!!!
LORD SEND MORE OIL!!!!!
I REFUSE A LITTLE FLICKER OF WEAK LIGHT!!!!!!
TURN ME/US INTO FIREBALLS!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

Dino246

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My wife is the stubborn one. She draws circles around me. I am stubborn about that when she is asleep .

His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of heaven: therefore from the end of the heaven, unto the ends of its 7 perfect seals :

We defend the circle of Christ's faith that works in us as a perfect law. It defends us if we obey what it says. Put on the armor of faith arm oneself with His words of faith the sword of God. Defend it will defend those within in its circle.
All of which has absolutely nothing to do with circular reasoning.

Once again, I introduced the term. I know what it means. I told you what it means. I consistently use the term with the same meaning. You refuse to accept what the term actually means, and instead have made up your own definition, which is both incorrect and irrelevant. I see no reason to continue discussing the matter with someone whose mind is so completely shut to correction.

What does the sign of tongues confirm. Unbelief no faith, or beleive salvation? Don't be stubborn . Which master belief or unbelief?
You keep asking about this, but you conveniently forget that I have responded and have dealt with it already. It's time to drop it.
 

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All of which has absolutely nothing to do with circular reasoning.

Once again, I introduced the term. I know what it means. I told you what it means. I consistently use the term with the same meaning. You refuse to accept what the term actually means, and instead have made up your own definition, which is both incorrect and irrelevant. I see no reason to continue discussing the matter with someone whose mind is so completely shut to correction.


You keep asking about this, but you conveniently forget that I have responded and have dealt with it already. It's time to drop it.
Dino just follow 1cor 14:38 and let it go.
 

garee

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All of which has absolutely nothing to do with circular reasoning.

Once again, I introduced the term. I know what it means. I told you what it means. I consistently use the term with the same meaning. You refuse to accept what the term actually means, and instead have made up your own definition, which is both incorrect and irrelevant. I see no reason to continue discussing the matter with someone whose mind is so completely shut to correction.


You keep asking about this, but you conveniently forget that I have responded and have dealt with it already. It's time to drop it.

if you cannot see laws are a circular reasoning tool. It only shows the circle cannot be broken .His love hems us in.

No lose philosophical ends . His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of heaven: therefore from the end of the heaven, unto the ends of its 7 perfect seals :

Wherythe philosophies of men spiral never connecting ends . I would say you are phiosphying .No circular reasoning there. Only with laws .What goes up must come down, spinning wheels spinning around.

I am still waiting for the first time. We spent much to help you understand what prophecy is and prophesying. You recently said tongues is prophecy as a new manner. The tongue of the gospel the believer new tongue. Yet for all that those who fall backward show they have no faith and see no evil in doing so.

#1 Unbelief (no faith) or #2 belief (faith )What does the sign confirm? Door #1 or door #2 ?
 

garee

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why are you taking that out on us? :geek:
She made me and will not be happy until you give a answer? What does the sign of tongues confirm . (its a open book test. ) will you look to the foundation? Why is God mocking those who fall backward? What kind of gift is that ?
 

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That means the 5 wise with lamps blazing with fire should have been smart like you and the OTHER 5.
Since you do not comprehend the passage to which you allude there is no meaningful response.

For the cause of Christ
Roger