Christ-mass is Pagan.

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gb9

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Yes,
I not only read and study. I also listen to the Wonderfull Couselor in attentive consideration.

In the secret of prayer the Lord openly rewards me.
In turn what I learn in secret I openly proclaim from the rooftop..

A kind person once drew my focus to the three men mentioned by yecheskel (ezekiel) whose name meaning God strengthens reminds me of the strength of forgiveness every day.

Think on this for a moment and consider God's every promise given and upheld by Yeshua. Meet our Lord in the Cloud and ask what creature dreads Noah.
might want to actually read the Bible, and not listen to the " wonderful counselor " whatever sprit that is ( not Jesus, based on the nonsense in your posts ).
 

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I only wish to point out this subject because the Living Word moves throughout scripture.
Drunk as known today by the worlds accuser may not mean what some would suppose.
The word is also understood as full.
Genesis 9:21 Hebrew Text Analysis
Strong's Hebrew: 7937. שָׁכַר (shakar) -- to be or become drunk or drunken

And what this has to do with the op. I believe it is important for all the Lords children to come to the Truth.
To put aside all falseness.
Which in the case of there being a calendar day represented as Yeshua's birthday without any scripture or sound judgement to recognize.
Perhaps its time for a Fold of the Lords Flock to acknowledge the suspicion surrounding the subject.

I will leave something i once heard in the Spirit.
The Lord was born the same day He resurrected.

Then some yrs later i find that there are traditions that speak of this.
Get real. Drunk is drunk. Maybe none of the words in the bible mean what they say. Or maybe you just pick the ones that you feel like changing to fit your narrative. Noah got wasted, it's a fact because the bible says so.
 

tourist

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The correct spelling is Christmas and not christ-mass. Apparently it stems from Santa Claus and Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer. I'm OK with that. I'm down with Frosty the Snowman too.
And your SOURCE(S) for that off-the-wall conclusion above are ... what, where and when?
I hate to break it to you but there really isn't a Santa Claus, Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer and Frosty the Snowman.
 
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Do you read the bible?......And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent<--Gen 9
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...2.3..41.273.s_2XawDqNMA#imgrc=x_Cv7ySi3ZqQJM:

If the link misshaps sorry.

I'll leave you something Noah was rewarded.
The Bet.
In hebrew this letter is an itricate part of God's spoken covenant and a n integral part of our relation with Adonai (Father).
For the Son has always reached for us.
Bet ten fold is something to draw upon as a well of Living Light.
Even if one family were to see they would still be different than their nine neighbors.
It has been a while since I shared with someone whom I delighted, something our Adonai of Lights freely gives as the husbandman.
If there are ten men to a congregation. What command is the most important?
Adonai told me, if those ten do not covet they do well.
5 men to the north. 5 men to the south.
Each with a curtain. And each should consider his family.

Clean the inside of the cup first.

I was taught this by the Holy Spirit.
And today our wonderfull Counselor confirmed his Word in Fellowship with a Sister in Christ.

She shared this.
Of the ten commands, none are outwardly and apparent to others.
Yet there is one that others cannot see except for the Potter.
 
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Do you read the bible?......And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent<--Gen 9

And a tent would be?
As in we have a Greater testimony
Remember discretion before responding. It has become quite clear what is prowling here on this board.
So be carefull in what you say. two out of three sons did well.
[FONT=&quot]And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.[/FONT]

Yeshua is the Tabernacle of God. A tent, or temple.
even peter spoke of his tent.
2 Shimon(peter)
I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of my body,
 

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7777 said,
"I will leave something i once heard in the Spirit.
The Lord was born the same day He resurrected."
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when we read the scriptures, we see that our Saviour was Resurrected right after Passover,
but if we do and in-depth study of the Priestly courses, it will become evident that He was
born during Tabernacles...
 
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7777 said,
"I will leave something i once heard in the Spirit.
The Lord was born the same day He resurrected."
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when we read the scriptures, we see that our Saviour was Resurrected right after Passover,
but if we do and in-depth study of the Priestly courses, it will become evident that He was
born during Tabernacles...
ive heard the rumor. and there has yet to be anyone to prove such a claim.
I believe someone has grown impatient and has not asked God for wisdom.
Do you know much about the fall feast or the 40 days and a fast?
Note what Gavriel is saying about yochanan not drinking wine,.
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Luke 1Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

1 Dear Theophilos:
Concerning the matters that have taken place among us, many people have undertaken to draw up accounts 2 based on what was handed down to us by those who from the start were eyewitnesses and proclaimers of the message. 3 Therefore, Your Excellency, since I have carefully investigated all these things from the beginning, it seemed good to me that I too should write you an accurate and ordered narrative, 4 so that you might know how well-founded are the things about which you have been taught.
5 In the days of Herod, King of Y’hudah, there was a cohen named Z’kharyah who belonged to the Aviyah division. His wife was a descendant of Aharon, and her name was Elisheva. 6 Both of them were righteous before God, observing all the mitzvot and ordinances of Adonai blamelessly. 7 But they had no children, because Elisheva was barren; and they were both well along in years.
8 One time, when Z’kharyah was fulfilling his duties as cohen during his division’s period of service before God, 9 he was chosen by lot (according to the custom among the cohanim) to enter the Temple and burn incense. 10 All the people were outside, praying, at the time of the incense burning, 11 when there appeared to him an angel of Adonai standing to the right of the incense altar. 12 Z’kharyah was startled and terrified at the sight.
13 But the angel said to him,
“Don’t be afraid, Z’kharyah; because your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elisheva will bear you a son, and you are to name him Yochanan. 14 He will be a joy and a delight to you, and many people will rejoice when he is born, 15 for he will be great in the sight of Adonai.
He is never to drink wine or other liquor, and he will be filled with the Ruach HaKodesh even from his mother’s womb.
16 He will turn many of the people of Isra’el to Adonai their God. 17 He will go out ahead of Adonai in the spirit and power of Eliyahu to turn the hearts of fathers to their children[a] and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous, to make ready for Adonai a people prepared.”







 
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ive heard the rumor. and there has yet to be anyone to prove such a claim.
I believe someone has grown impatient and has not asked God for wisdom.
Do you know much about the fall feast or the 40 days and a fast?
Note what Gavriel is saying about yochanan not drinking wine,.
-




Luke 1Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

1 Dear Theophilos:
Concerning the matters that have taken place among us, many people have undertaken to draw up accounts 2 based on what was handed down to us by those who from the start were eyewitnesses and proclaimers of the message. 3 Therefore, Your Excellency, since I have carefully investigated all these things from the beginning, it seemed good to me that I too should write you an accurate and ordered narrative, 4 so that you might know how well-founded are the things about which you have been taught.
5 In the days of Herod, King of Y’hudah, there was a cohen named Z’kharyah who belonged to the Aviyah division. His wife was a descendant of Aharon, and her name was Elisheva. 6 Both of them were righteous before God, observing all the mitzvot and ordinances of Adonai blamelessly. 7 But they had no children, because Elisheva was barren; and they were both well along in years.
8 One time, when Z’kharyah was fulfilling his duties as cohen during his division’s period of service before God, 9 he was chosen by lot (according to the custom among the cohanim) to enter the Temple and burn incense. 10 All the people were outside, praying, at the time of the incense burning, 11 when there appeared to him an angel of Adonai standing to the right of the incense altar. 12 Z’kharyah was startled and terrified at the sight.
13 But the angel said to him,


“Don’t be afraid, Z’kharyah; because your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elisheva will bear you a son, and you are to name him Yochanan.
14 He will be a joy and a delight to you, and many people will rejoice when he is born, 15 for he will be great in the sight of Adonai.
He is never to drink wine or other liquor, and he will be filled with the Ruach HaKodesh even from his mother’s womb.
16 He will turn many of the people of Isra’el to Adonai their God. 17 He will go out ahead of Adonai in the spirit and power of Eliyahu to turn the hearts of fathers to their children[a] and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous, to make ready for Adonai a people prepared.”








Joy, ' people will rejoice when he is born
Rosh Hashanah
Hannahs Joy..

“Don’t be afraid, Z’kharyah; because your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elisheva will bear you a son, and you are to name him Yochanan. 14 He will be a joy and a delight to you, and many people will rejoice when he is born, 15 for he will be great in the sight of Adonai.
He is never to drink wine or other liquor, and he will be filled with the Ruach HaKodesh even from his mother’s womb.
16 He will turn many of the people of Isra’el to Adonai their God. 17 He will go out ahead of Adonai in the spirit and power of Eliyahu to turn the hearts of fathers to their children[a] and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous, to make ready for Adonai a people prepared.”
 
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7777 said,
"I will leave something i once heard in the Spirit.
The Lord was born the same day He resurrected."
===============================================

when we read the scriptures, we see that our Saviour was Resurrected right after Passover,
but if we do and in-depth study of the Priestly courses, it will become evident that He was
born during Tabernacles...
Faith like a mustard seed has a tree for Birds.

I wonder who told you Yeshua was born during the feast of booths?
In the future be vigilant of what bird is singing to you.
 
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Do you read the bible?......And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent<--Gen 9
Rosh Hashanah Haftorahs in a Nutshell - Rosh Hashanah Torah Reading Texts and Summaries - Parshah

Day 1:
I Samuel 1:1–2:10
The haftorah for the first day of Rosh Hashanah describes the birth of the prophet Samuel to Elkanah and his wife Chanah, who had been childless for many years. This echoes the story discussed in the day’s Torah reading, about Sarah giving birth to Isaac after many years of childlessness.
During one of her annual pilgrimages to Shiloh, the site of the Tabernacle, Chanah tearfully and quietly entreated G‑d to bless her with a son, promising to dedicate him to His service. Eli the high priest saw her whispering, and berated her, thinking that she was a drunkard. After hearing Chanah’s explanation, that she had been whispering in prayer, Eli blessed her that G‑d should grant her request.
Chana conceived and gave birth to a son whom she called Shmuel (Samuel). Once the child was weaned, she brought him to Shiloh and entrusted him to the care of Eli.
The haftorah ends with Chanah’s prayer, wherein she thanks G‑d for granting her wish, extols His greatness, exhorts the people not to be haughty or arrogant, and prophesies regarding the Messianic redemption.
 

gb9

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Christ=mass is ov-er.
 
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Rosh Hashanah Haftorahs in a Nutshell - Rosh Hashanah Torah Reading Texts and Summaries - Parshah

Day 1:
I Samuel 1:1–2:10
The haftorah for the first day of Rosh Hashanah describes the birth of the prophet Samuel to Elkanah and his wife Chanah, who had been childless for many years. This echoes the story discussed in the day’s Torah reading, about Sarah giving birth to Isaac after many years of childlessness.
During one of her annual pilgrimages to Shiloh, the site of the Tabernacle, Chanah tearfully and quietly entreated G‑d to bless her with a son, promising to dedicate him to His service. Eli the high priest saw her whispering, and berated her, thinking that she was a drunkard. After hearing Chanah’s explanation, that she had been whispering in prayer, Eli blessed her that G‑d should grant her request.
Chana conceived and gave birth to a son whom she called Shmuel (Samuel). Once the child was weaned, she brought him to Shiloh and entrusted him to the care of Eli.
The haftorah ends with Chanah’s prayer, wherein she thanks G‑d for granting her wish, extols His greatness, exhorts the people not to be haughty or arrogant, and prophesies regarding the Messianic redemption.
[h=3]Peter Addresses the Crowd[/h][SUP]14 [/SUP]Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd:
“Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. [SUP]15 [/SUP]These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! [SUP]16 [/SUP]No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

[SUP]17 [/SUP]“‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[SUP][c][/SUP]


[SUP]22 [/SUP]“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. [SUP]23 [/SUP]This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[SUP][d][/SUP] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. [SUP]24 [/SUP]But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. [SUP]25 [/SUP]David said about him:
“‘I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.’[SUP][e][/SUP]


[SUP]29 [/SUP]“Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. [SUP]30 [/SUP]But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. [SUP]31 [/SUP]Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. [SUP]32 [/SUP]God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. [SUP]33 [/SUP]Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. [SUP]34 [/SUP]For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,
“‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
[SUP]35 [/SUP]until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.”’[SUP][f][/SUP]



[SUP]36 [/SUP]“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”
[SUP]37 [/SUP]When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Peter replied,
“Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. [SUP]39 [/SUP]The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

[SUP]40 [/SUP]With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them,
“Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” [SUP]
41 [/SUP]Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

[h=3]The Fellowship of the Believers[/h][SUP]42 [/SUP]They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. [SUP]43 [/SUP]Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. [SUP]44 [/SUP]All the believers were together and had everything in common. [SUP]45 [/SUP]They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. [SUP]46 [/SUP]Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, [SUP]47 [/SUP]praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.