Christian Unity what will it take?
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And how is a person going to even talk to somone else on doctrine and agree, while they have pride my dear?
It sure is not happening here, and places like it. Nor is it happening in churches. Just more divison. More people who agree on doctrine, excluing all who dont. And then worshp Doctrine, and follow the doctrine, and then attack of all who dont agree with doctrine. Does JESUS unite in doctrine? He sure does. And if SOMEONE is not getting messages from the head(Jesus) becasue of idols and pride then unity is null and void. There is ONE doctrien of GOD, and the HOLY SPIRIT unites them...but again...NO humiltiy, no prayer, CONSTANT tearing your heart before the lord...then you stay with an idol.
Nope Persecution happens to pagans, and guess what, it unifies them. Not torward JESUS, but torward what ever. Im not sayign we should pray for it. im just saying that is when the TRUE church wil be unified. it is when we humble ourselves and pray.
Humiltiy, and prayer, BEING the living sacrifice, layign ALL of ourselves out on the alter for JEsus Chrsit. Being fully exposed for JESUS to kill ALL he needs to of SELF. When ALL of the TRUE body startss doign that then unification will happen.
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Yup. Why is that? PRIDE. they think they have ALL the light, an then they worship that light(as small as it is) and call it JESUS. Yet, there is no edification of those who are weaker, there is no humiltiy in that tpe of living, adn there is REALYL no True Jesus in that type of attitude. its just straight up flesh and is the starting point of ALL of the 35,000 different denominations we have. They got a little light on somthign, spiritual pride rises up, THEY get a puffed up sweeled head because of Knowledge, and instead of being humble adn contrie of heart, they are Blind to any more truth, and then it becomes another Gospel. Its PRIDE. thats it.
Like Jandian said, Brokeness is what will unite us.
Humility, being LOW, beign a servent instead of a leader. LOW and broken. Broken and spileld out. when EVER vessle is empty to be filled by JESUS and JESUS only in every facet of there life, THEN There will be unity in ALL who have dont the same thing, THEN they will all be one mind, one spirit.
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Romans 12:2
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.
Why would paul say that Zone? It IS a work of GOD, ONLY, not ofourselves. And GOD cant work if YOU are not submitting. if YOU have pride, GOD WONT work in you, in fact he will just give you over to it. If WE are not humble before HIM, broken and empty to be filled adn led by HIM then we are nothign and God WILL NOT work in us.
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.
Why would paul say that Zone? It IS a work of GOD, ONLY, not ofourselves. And GOD cant work if YOU are not submitting. if YOU have pride, GOD WONT work in you, in fact he will just give you over to it. If WE are not humble before HIM, broken and empty to be filled adn led by HIM then we are nothign and God WILL NOT work in us.
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The funny thing is how few seem to understand that the message of the Cross not only speaks of Christs sacrifice so that we might be redeemed, but that it also teaches that we are to be Christlike, laying down our lives just as Christ did in full surrender to the will of God (and not self), so that God might work in us and through us in order to take the gospel to the entire world.
this old horse again,
the romans 8 "walkers in the Spirit" get it.
we unwassed masses don't.
sick of the patronizing.
get real.
get humble.
give thanks.
stop thinking you're something you're not.
FU-U-U-U-U-U-UU-L obedience
sure thing.
NOT BELIEVEABLE. you sin, you sin daily, and you sin MUCH.
you do NOT obey the Law.
ONLY CHRIST DID IT.
the romans 8 "walkers in the Spirit" get it.
we unwassed masses don't.
sick of the patronizing.
get real.
get humble.
give thanks.
stop thinking you're something you're not.
FU-U-U-U-U-U-UU-L obedience
sure thing.
NOT BELIEVEABLE. you sin, you sin daily, and you sin MUCH.
you do NOT obey the Law.
ONLY CHRIST DID IT.
ditto.
but i was called/constrained to do it.
never occured to me to "do it" myself.
talk about exponential growth. i hear that.
amazing experience. indescribable really. nothing really to do with not eating, though that was included.
but having experienced it as a direct call, i likely won't do it of my own volition.
who knows...maybe.
the weight loss was nice
but i was called/constrained to do it.
never occured to me to "do it" myself.
talk about exponential growth. i hear that.
amazing experience. indescribable really. nothing really to do with not eating, though that was included.
but having experienced it as a direct call, i likely won't do it of my own volition.
who knows...maybe.
the weight loss was nice
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I agree that unity will come when we as believers die to our own selfish pride and personal religious agendas. When we prostrate ourselves in complete brokenness before the Lord allowing the Holy Spirit to reveal to us those areas in our lives which hinder our ability to walk in the fullness of his will for our lives - not so that we can be exalted but rather, so that he can be exalted through us.
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Yup. And obviously there is no UNITY on what will bring Unity. hahah
We are called to be LOW. thats what we are called to. I can go and post all the verses but you have a bible. It is only when we are NOTHING that JESUS can unify us. it is not "agreeiging" on 5 points of Doctrine that unites a person. It is that they are a WIFE to the ONE husband. that they are FULLY submitted to JESUS. if you are NOT then he can not clean you, teach you, adn move you, and use you. If SELF leads, then SELF is LORD. It needs to be JESUS that does it, dn he CANT do it unless WE are a sacrifice, a broken spilled out, emptied vessle for HIM to fill. JESUS was the example of the way WE should be, FULY submitted to GOD, now WE should be fully submitted to JESUS. Submitted and Comitted. And that CANT happen with out brokenness and humility TO JESUS.
THEN when ALL men are the Wife of JESUS. then all the CHURCH will be a pure virginal Bride to JESUS. It starts on the INDIVIDUAL basis FIRST. it is a one on one Relationship. BE THE WIFE of JESUS. Fully submitted. beign HIS body, having no say over our body but having HIM have all say. And since it is JESUS in you, being JESUS, then it SHOULD be a reletively simple thing. BUT, we love flesh, we love our deisre. We love pride. No brokeness adn submission to JESUS then we are NOT his wife. and HE can not live throug hus, becasue of our stubborn natrue we refuse to die in him, so how can we be raised in his ressurection? We need to be broken. That will bring unity.
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Who said anything about obeying the law?
Walking in humility is exactly what my post was about.
It's so sad that you are unable to see it.
I could easily point to the reason why you are unable to see it. It's abundantly clear in your post as to why. However, this post is about how to achieve unity. Tearing down others to make yourself look pious will only accomplish the opposite.
Walking in humility is exactly what my post was about.
It's so sad that you are unable to see it.
I could easily point to the reason why you are unable to see it. It's abundantly clear in your post as to why. However, this post is about how to achieve unity. Tearing down others to make yourself look pious will only accomplish the opposite.
isn't this a biblical doctrine?
they mystery of christ and the church?
didn't we learn this mystery FROM THE BIBLE?
Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Ephesians 5:28
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
we are told to be imitators of God.
this means doing as He SAID in His Word.
but the word doesn't count for what it used to.
reading it, understanding it is God-breathed and learning to do as He said is passe compared to the mystical experiences and bizarre teachings like Bridal Paradigm.
used to be folks read their Bibles and tried to live by them.
and that was enough.
its ALWAYS been enough.
until satan's little season.
they mystery of christ and the church?
didn't we learn this mystery FROM THE BIBLE?
Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Ephesians 5:28
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
we are told to be imitators of God.
this means doing as He SAID in His Word.
but the word doesn't count for what it used to.
reading it, understanding it is God-breathed and learning to do as He said is passe compared to the mystical experiences and bizarre teachings like Bridal Paradigm.
used to be folks read their Bibles and tried to live by them.
and that was enough.
its ALWAYS been enough.
until satan's little season.