Christian Unity what will it take?

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you understand!
i knew why i loved ya.

ya tell the truth.
Well this is interesting kinda what I thought though not much in the way of uniformity is there?

Hmmm........ wonder what kinda miracle it would take consumed was right!
 
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We are not the only Christians whoever existed. There is over 1900 years of Christian history behind us, we may be well off to read into it to see what we can find there.
Looking to the future for unity is like ignoring the history of Christianity, its wrong because it is very egotistical to think that the Christians of our generation are the only one's that will find unity. The Christians of ages past may have already found it.
 
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man, i can barely tolerate guys who WILL NOT STAND FOR WHAT THEY CLAIM THEY BELIEVE.
filp-flopping from one thread to another, saying one thing here, another there.

i know what you said. on every post.

*shaking head*

flip flopping on what?

the thread is what do you think will be unity. I merely agreed with some of the others that we must die to self and selfish agendas if we are to see God's will manifest.

The ironic part is that the topic is unity and you are sowing strife.
 
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Romans 12:2
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.


Why would paul say that Zone? It IS a work of GOD, ONLY, not ofourselves. And GOD cant work if YOU are not submitting. if YOU have pride, GOD WONT work in you, in fact he will just give you over to it. If WE are not humble before HIM, broken and empty to be filled adn led by HIM then we are nothign and God WILL NOT work in us.
Paul advices Christians to concentrate fully on WORSHIPPING GOD!!

BIG DEAL!

It doesnt support your WEIRD theology.
 
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Yup. And obviously there is no UNITY on what will bring Unity. hahah

We are called to be LOW. thats what we are called to. I can go and post all the verses but you have a bible. It is only when we are NOTHING that JESUS can unify us. it is not "agreeiging" on 5 points of Doctrine that unites a person. It is that they are a WIFE to the ONE husband. that they are FULLY submitted to JESUS. if you are NOT then he can not clean you, teach you, adn move you, and use you. If SELF leads, then SELF is LORD. It needs to be JESUS that does it, dn he CANT do it unless WE are a sacrifice, a broken spilled out, emptied vessle for HIM to fill. JESUS was the example of the way WE should be, FULY submitted to GOD, now WE should be fully submitted to JESUS. Submitted and Comitted. And that CANT happen with out brokenness and humility TO JESUS.

THEN when ALL men are the Wife of JESUS. then all the CHURCH will be a pure virginal Bride to JESUS. It starts on the INDIVIDUAL basis FIRST. it is a one on one Relationship. BE THE WIFE of JESUS. Fully submitted. beign HIS body, having no say over our body but having HIM have all say. And since it is JESUS in you, being JESUS, then it SHOULD be a reletively simple thing. BUT, we love flesh, we love our deisre. We love pride. No brokeness adn submission to JESUS then we are NOT his wife. and HE can not live throug hus, becasue of our stubborn natrue we refuse to die in him, so how can we be raised in his ressurection? We need to be broken. That will bring unity.
So what are you waiting for Rob?

Start following the written law already!

Then you can be fully submitted and commited.
 
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I agree that unity will come when we as believers die to our own selfish pride and personal religious agendas. When we prostrate ourselves in complete brokenness before the Lord allowing the Holy Spirit to reveal to us those areas in our lives which hinder our ability to walk in the fullness of his will for our lives - not so that we can be exalted but rather, so that he can be exalted through us.
And that is why there will NEVER be unity while this earth and our flesh still lives.

There will always be pride, and pride will not allow unity. Satan and his hoard take this pride and cause contention. One of satans greatest victories is mixing truth with lies so believab;e many fall for it. and this leads many south.
 
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We are not the only Christians whoever existed. There is over 1900 years of Christian history behind us, we may be well off to read into it to see what we can find there.
Looking to the future for unity is like ignoring the history of Christianity, its wrong because it is very egotistical to think that the Christians of our generation are the only one's that will find unity. The Christians of ages past may have already found it.


Yet history is a BAD example of who to follow. History shows since adam that for the most part. there were only a few true believers. Most of the "big religious organizations" were in error. and it is what most people followed. The high priest of the jew, (people were afraid to cross him even in Jesus time) The pope. and all the other men who filtered false doctrines and brought many into her heresy is astounding.

Thank God for his word. so those of us who want to know Gods truth can search diligently for answers.
 
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We are not the only Christians whoever existed. There is over 1900 years of Christian history behind us, we may be well off to read into it to see what we can find there.
Looking to the future for unity is like ignoring the history of Christianity, its wrong because it is very egotistical to think that the Christians of our generation are the only one's that will find unity. The Christians of ages past may have already found it.
Looking forward to unity through your glasses is very bleak indeed and unity will never be achieved with an attitude like that. It doesn't matter if it is this generation or 10 down the road if we fall at least fall forward is how your Brother Lazarus the EOC monk put it I think!
 
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I'll tell you what it will take.. THE END OF THE WORLD. Then and only then will all the real christians be united with each other.... in heaven.
 
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Zero, do not let anything take your peace... Even if they call you Satan himself, Do not let go of your peace... I am here to be trialed, I am here to recieve persecution, I am here to be named hypocrate and evil one, I even call myself from Satan's workshop, becasue remember God did love me even when I was a sinner. And all sinners are sinners becasue they chose to do what Satan offered!

Those that keep on doing it, will always have only themselves to blame, The ones that chose to rather do what God offers, well they will find them in ANOTHER siruation. Not one of guilt and anger and all teh other wtuff, but the one thing they have in COMMON is a peace that NOTHING can shake...

Keep your peace, some days I really need to take a walk before I type, and then when i come back it is as though the Word of God just rise up, and I am in Truth, and in love, and in peace... Then I think on what I would have to do, to not show the BAD but the peace and love.

I have walked a long way following the lead of the Holy Spirit, and I was often told I am NOTHING, and that is not true,,, If I were nothing, Jesus would already be EVERYTHING! So I am not nothing, but I hope soon to be nothing, so that Jesus can be everything in me. And then I will not have to even woory about nothing or everything... Jesus in me, will deal with everything or nothing... It is His to do as He pleases...

For now, I have this wonderful expectancy to be COMPLETE in God! So no matter what any person say, i believe this... When Jesus send his disciples out He said,.... If a house recieve you the son of peace will be with you in that house.. And our peace shall rest upon that house. My friend KEEP this peace. Nobody can stel it from you and nobody can force you to let it go, it is YOUR sole choice to keep it... Like Daniel did... KEEP the peace, and Jesus showed us how!!!

Lord please give me Your patience to keep the peace in me, amen!
 
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For now, I have this wonderful expectancy to be COMPLETE in God!
What are you waiting for dude?

Hear the good news and BELIEVE!

(oh, you mean become completely sinless in deed, thought and act.....<sigh>.......nevermind)
 
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For now, I have this wonderful expectancy to be COMPLETE in God!
Your mean your not yet? If your not complete in God your not even saved, and have no hope of making it to heaven. You better find the gospel so God can make you complete in him. for without him there is no hope.
 
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Paul advices Christians to concentrate fully on WORSHIPPING GOD!!

BIG DEAL!

It doesnt support your WEIRD theology.

What is the reasonable and acceptable form of worship, Hickory? From THAT passage alone, WHAT is our worship unto GOD?
 
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I'll tell you what it will take.. THE END OF THE WORLD. Then and only then will all the real christians be united with each other.... in heaven.
oooh love the kitty :)



Why does everyone look to others instead of focus on Christ and ask Jesus what can WE do to help glorify HIS Name? then go out an DO IT TODAY!
 
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*shaking head*

flip flopping on what?

the thread is what do you think will be unity. I merely agreed with some of the others that we must die to self and selfish agendas if we are to see God's will manifest.

The ironic part is that the topic is unity and you are sowing strife.
This is so true. She has begun to accuse me of the same thing even though I have never or will never back off from what I know to be true. I guess this s her new tactic. Sad sowing strife in an unity thread ....shm
 
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Originally Posted by zeroturbulence

I'll tell you what it will take.. THE END OF THE WORLD. Then and only then will all the real christians be united with each other.... in heaven.
Well I guess Jesus' prayer in John 17 was all for not?
 
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All of these heretical movements by which we have fallen into are because of our pride and lack of humility. The 38,000+ denominations are directly contrary to what St Paul is teaching us in Ephesians 4. These differnt congregations are directly opposed to Christian Unity. We cannot say that the Mormons and the Jehovah witnesses can be one when they differ doctrinally. That is like saying apples and oranges are one and the same. Heresy comes from pride, pride in one's own way of thinking. "God is not this way, or that way", "He is MY way, my way or the highway"... This arrogance caused the schims of the church.


I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
(Ephesians4:1-16*KJV)
 
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What is the reasonable and acceptable form of worship, Hickory? From THAT passage alone, WHAT is our worship unto GOD?
Devoting your life to Him.

Why do you think I'm hear preaching the Gospel for 12 hours a day?

It doesnt mean nailing ourselves to the cross or chasing after total perfection in thought and deed.
 
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Agape love would be a miracle lolz not filio love only
Be perfect in love, who knows another way but love can only bring unity thru honor and respect.
Can't imagine what baby Christians or unsaved think on this site sometimes
oops I can &#58387;

Group hug time lolz rofl (you know I'm serious)
 

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This is so true. She has begun to accuse me of the same thing even though I have never or will never back off from what I know to be true. I guess this s her new tactic. Sad sowing strife in an unity thread ....shm
hi 4runner.
how are you today?

there's little doubt i do not stand with either you or crossfire on many core issues.

but dear, i have forgiven your horrendous transgressions against me, and certainly am on no crusade to turn you from your beliefs. just out to counter them.

this is not only my right, but my duty.

unity is not just ONE WORD.

it involves much more than being just UNIFIED, doesn't it.

you would hardly consider yourself in unity with me...so why the facade of outstretched arms to all, 4runner? that's not who you are, why pretend it is dear?

i like it when ppl keep it real....hey! maybe that could be a start to unity.
jes sayin'