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Hi tourist...I have just started Genesis 
...First time for me reading the OT...Writing notes as I go along to what the Holy Spirit is showing me...I must admit after spending the past two years in the NT, and learning who I am in Christ, and learning how to walk in my daily life , I kind of miss being in there, but I know its important to read the OT, I am struggling sometimes but I am enjoying it, learning more about Gods character...xox...
...First time for me reading the OT...Writing notes as I go along to what the Holy Spirit is showing me...I must admit after spending the past two years in the NT, and learning who I am in Christ, and learning how to walk in my daily life , I kind of miss being in there, but I know its important to read the OT, I am struggling sometimes but I am enjoying it, learning more about Gods character...xox...
I read one or two chapters a day, sometimes more if the chapters are short as part of my daily devotion and prayer time. I started this current reading of the entire bible last September and I'm just now approaching the end of Jerimiah.
I understand what you are saying, I miss reading the New Testament also as it talks mainly about Jesus. I also do study guides and this gives me the chance to go into the NT frequently and also as the Holy Spirit leads me.
I believe that understanding God's character allows you to better understand your own character and serves as a guide as to the changes you should pray for in your life to be a more effective and humble servant of the Lord. Of course, the Holy Spirit always prays to our Heavenly Father for us.
It is wonderful that you are allowing yourself to be led by the Holy Spirit. That is certainly good news indeed.
None. But we do need to know when Israel, and the law ends and the church began.
Nothing has has ever been on earth before like the body of Christ. And my bible states that Paul did call it his gospel.
Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Rom 2:17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
Rom 2:18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
I will leave the rest of this for anyone who is interested to check.
Nothing has has ever been on earth before like the body of Christ. And my bible states that Paul did call it his gospel.
Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Rom 2:17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
Rom 2:18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
I will leave the rest of this for anyone who is interested to check.
Also, Jesus Christ, the Good Shepherd, told all that He had another Flock (the nations) which He was going to bring together with the Original Flock (Israel). Later this is elaborated upon in the Epistles how we are become fellow heirs with Israel.....
We look to the New Jerusalem to be brought down by God. It is the Jerusalem bove , the son of promise. The Jerusalem below is not eternal and it is the son of the bondwoman, Hagar.
The Israel you see today is nothing liek the one to come nor like the original Israel.
There were twelve tribes. The government was the law of Moses. The Temple of God was of stone..today we are that Temple. There was one faith, one teaching of it, and that was from Moses.
The Israel of this earth today is composed of what call themselves Jew of many denominations, orthodox, hasidic, reform, liberal and more..........this has nothing to do with the Israel first on eather, and less to do with the one to come.
There was no such thing as judaism when christ first came..........though there were already factions within the hierarchy of the Temple.
Just as they did so have Christians, breaking off into dozens of denominations, none in agreement.
Jesus taught we are children of Abraham bcause God is able to raise up childre frm the stones.........Abraham may be fully translatd to English as Honored Father of Nations (The nations)........there is so much wonder and awe in God's Word, all we must do to grasp it is believe, amen.
We look to the New Jerusalem to be brought down by God. It is the Jerusalem bove , the son of promise. The Jerusalem below is not eternal and it is the son of the bondwoman, Hagar.
The Israel you see today is nothing liek the one to come nor like the original Israel.
There were twelve tribes. The government was the law of Moses. The Temple of God was of stone..today we are that Temple. There was one faith, one teaching of it, and that was from Moses.
The Israel of this earth today is composed of what call themselves Jew of many denominations, orthodox, hasidic, reform, liberal and more..........this has nothing to do with the Israel first on eather, and less to do with the one to come.
There was no such thing as judaism when christ first came..........though there were already factions within the hierarchy of the Temple.
Just as they did so have Christians, breaking off into dozens of denominations, none in agreement.
Jesus taught we are children of Abraham bcause God is able to raise up childre frm the stones.........Abraham may be fully translatd to English as Honored Father of Nations (The nations)........there is so much wonder and awe in God's Word, all we must do to grasp it is believe, amen.
Hi tourist...I have just started Genesis ...First time for me reading the OT...Writing notes as I go along to what the Holy Spirit is showing me...I must admit after spending the past two years in the NT, and learning who I am in Christ, and learning how to walk in my daily life , I kind of miss being in there, but I know its important to read the OT, I am struggling sometimes but I am enjoying it, learning more about Gods character...xox...
...First time for me reading the OT...Writing notes as I go along to what the Holy Spirit is showing me...I must admit after spending the past two years in the NT, and learning who I am in Christ, and learning how to walk in my daily life , I kind of miss being in there, but I know its important to read the OT, I am struggling sometimes but I am enjoying it, learning more about Gods character...xox...
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well why wouldn't you know?
oy...Paul meant the gospel he was preaching was the gospel of Jesus Christ
Paul went so far as to state :
6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! Galatians 1
so you know, really I don't wish to be sarcastic, but you might read a little farther for the context
notice that Paul states the gospel is the gospel of Christ
no comment should you continue to deny that. we all can read
it is more than clear from scripture that Paul, by his own words, preached the gospel of Jesus
there is only one gospel not two. saying there are two borders on heresy, which is why I continue to make mention of this when it comes up
thanks
I don't care to be under a curse which is indicated for accepting 'another' gospel
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I do not care how old someone is, If they make an accusation, they need to back that accusation up. If they are unwilling to do so. Then they need to be confronted as to why they can not back it up.
If they keep attacking people with these accusations, then EVERYONE needs to confront them on why they are doing what they are doing.
I love this revelation too JaumeJ.
am wondering if you looked at this:
covenant:
[h=1]H1285[/h]
בְּרִית
b[SUP]e[/SUP]rı̂ythber-eeth'
From H1262 (in the sense of cutting (like H1254)); a compact (because made by passing between pieces of flesh): - confederacy, [con-]feder[-ate], covenant, league.
Total KJV occurrences: 284
sorry about that..didn't come through at first.
Fulfilled here:
Gen 15:5 Then the LORD took him outside. "Look up at the sky and count the stars—if you can!" he said. "Your descendants will be that numerous."
Gen 15:6 Abram believed the LORD, and it was credited to him as righteousness.
Gen 15:7 The LORD spoke to him, "I am the LORD, who brought you from Ur of the Chaldeans, to give you this land as an inheritance."
Gen 15:8 But he replied, "Lord GOD, how will I know that I will inherit it?"
Gen 15:9 The LORD responded, "Bring me a three year old cow, a three year old female goat, a three year old ram, a turtledove, and a young pigeon."
Gen 15:10 So Abram brought him all these animals and cut each of them in half, down the middle, placing the pieces opposite each other, but he did not cut the birds in half.
I see Jesus represented here in all the sacrifices of blood, but the birds especially. They werent divided completely. Split but not separated. I see God and man united here.
Gen 15:11 When birds of prey swooped down on the carcasses, Abram drove them away.
And here Abram protecting the sacrifices from "fowls". I see demonic spirits lies here, and we too protect the NT covenant of inheritance.
Then acceptance!
Gen 15:17 When the sun had fully set and it was dark, a smoking fire pot and a fiery torch passed between the animal pieces.
God gives the land then.
I used to hear my Pentecostal sisters speak of taking the land. I could never understand this until I realized this was wrong, and saw was right.
Our land would be all that we are given in Christ Jesus, godliness and all we need for right living. Through our precious gift of Holy Spirit "intertwined" with our spirit. Intertwined is a word used in a definition from the Greek. Also "braid".
We are the children of Abraham, children of faith. Love love love this revelation.
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lol..
lets see
He came to my thread. And I responded to what he said to me there
He came to the “not by works” thread. Which I have been and continue to be a part of and responded there
and he opened this thread. And in honest wanting to discuss a topic, I responded to the thread here only to be attacked. And hence the reason we are even having this discussion here.
You are out of line sis, I have not been following him anywhere. SHould I go into his “faith thread” to prove you right?
or will you stop this nonsense?
lets see
He came to my thread. And I responded to what he said to me there
He came to the “not by works” thread. Which I have been and continue to be a part of and responded there
and he opened this thread. And in honest wanting to discuss a topic, I responded to the thread here only to be attacked. And hence the reason we are even having this discussion here.
You are out of line sis, I have not been following him anywhere. SHould I go into his “faith thread” to prove you right?
or will you stop this nonsense?
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Hi EG
Ive stayed out of this thread because I thought it would come to this.
What I know about Jaume, is he has the baptism of Holy Spirit because we spoke about this in another thread many weeks ago. He gave testimony about how the Lord worked miracles for him so he does trust Him.
Where I think the disconnect is, there are some of us who believe that all Jesus did and said was for the benefit of Israel, to prove Himself to be the sacrifice of atonement that the scriptures were proclaiming in allegorical pictures. And that He was God in flesh. Something that even His disciples did not realize until the ressurection.
That the truth of the body of Christ was given to Paul. The revelation of the mystery of Christ in us, the hope of glory.
I think that he and others think because of this understanding, believe then that we are putting our attention on Paul, and not on the sayings of Jesus.
Well, in a way we are. So I don't know how to remedy this.
Just an addon for clarity. The ressurection and ascension of Jesus, shows the purpose of His leaving. He said that the comforter wouldn't come until He left.
The revelation of Paul is to reveal the work of Holy Spirit, not law.
That was the not by works answer, that Dcon and his "cohorts" continually gave over and over in many different ways, and many many posts.
Ive stayed out of this thread because I thought it would come to this.
What I know about Jaume, is he has the baptism of Holy Spirit because we spoke about this in another thread many weeks ago. He gave testimony about how the Lord worked miracles for him so he does trust Him.
Where I think the disconnect is, there are some of us who believe that all Jesus did and said was for the benefit of Israel, to prove Himself to be the sacrifice of atonement that the scriptures were proclaiming in allegorical pictures. And that He was God in flesh. Something that even His disciples did not realize until the ressurection.
That the truth of the body of Christ was given to Paul. The revelation of the mystery of Christ in us, the hope of glory.
I think that he and others think because of this understanding, believe then that we are putting our attention on Paul, and not on the sayings of Jesus.
Well, in a way we are. So I don't know how to remedy this.
Just an addon for clarity. The ressurection and ascension of Jesus, shows the purpose of His leaving. He said that the comforter wouldn't come until He left.
The revelation of Paul is to reveal the work of Holy Spirit, not law.
That was the not by works answer, that Dcon and his "cohorts"
continually gave over and over in many different ways, and many many posts.
I did not think it would come to this. Maybe I should have? If so that is on me, and I ask forgiveness.
My problem is not a doctrinal issue. It is a sin issue..
When I come into any OP, I post according to what I have learned and what i KNOW in response to posts.
When it became apparent, in your thread, that I was not getting replies to what I wanted to convey, and accusations began simply because I had a different point of unerrstanding, I said I was unsubscribing to the thread for the sake of peace.
YOu followed me to another thread, not yours, and bruoght up accusations not founded, not documented, for surely you can cut and paste, so I unsubscribed to that one also, saying it is for the sake of peac.e
I wrote the administration requeting this thread be yanked because it had become abnoxiously contentious and I did not care if it remained, however while it remains I will tend to post......If it is gonein the morning, Haleluyah, because frankly, I am geting tired of this unwelcome entourge of one. God bless all in Jesus Christ.........the sandman is here, so night all.
When it became apparent, in your thread, that I was not getting replies to what I wanted to convey, and accusations began simply because I had a different point of unerrstanding, I said I was unsubscribing to the thread for the sake of peace.
YOu followed me to another thread, not yours, and bruoght up accusations not founded, not documented, for surely you can cut and paste, so I unsubscribed to that one also, saying it is for the sake of peac.e
I wrote the administration requeting this thread be yanked because it had become abnoxiously contentious and I did not care if it remained, however while it remains I will tend to post......If it is gonein the morning, Haleluyah, because frankly, I am geting tired of this unwelcome entourge of one. God bless all in Jesus Christ.........the sandman is here, so night all.
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Can I ask you a question? When you accuse someone of saying something like you did in my thread. And they ask you to prove what you accused them off. Why is it so hard to do just that.
Thats not the same of telling us what you believe.
Tellin Gus what you believe is saying things like I believe God died for all sins everywhere, Accusing someone is saying that that person said something, or insainuated something. That is far different than saying what you believe
What thread was that? All I did was see that yo posted in a thread I ALWAYS AM APART OF. And asked you again to respond to your accusations in my thread. I did not follow you there. That is not correct.
Then as I said, stop responding.. or better yet, Back up the accusations you keep making against me, and all will be well. Running from a problem does not solve a problem it just makes it fester until it comes back up later in a different circumstance, this has been an ongoing problem for months now.. Not just with me, with others.
Thats not the same of telling us what you believe.
Tellin Gus what you believe is saying things like I believe God died for all sins everywhere, Accusing someone is saying that that person said something, or insainuated something. That is far different than saying what you believe
What thread was that? All I did was see that yo posted in a thread I ALWAYS AM APART OF. And asked you again to respond to your accusations in my thread. I did not follow you there. That is not correct.
Then as I said, stop responding.. or better yet, Back up the accusations you keep making against me, and all will be well. Running from a problem does not solve a problem it just makes it fester until it comes back up later in a different circumstance, this has been an ongoing problem for months now.. Not just with me, with others.
Yet your post gives the indication that you do not equate Paul with the other writers of the bible. It is not uncommon for folks not to like Paul as he doesn't pull his punches.
Paul was undoubtedly a legalist among legalists before he received the wondrous grace of God in Jesus Christ. Paul then became the greatest advocate for mercy and grace.
Those who love legalism often adorn themselves with the trappings of Judaism. These measure their spirituality by how well they keep the law.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Paul was undoubtedly a legalist among legalists before he received the wondrous grace of God in Jesus Christ. Paul then became the greatest advocate for mercy and grace.
Those who love legalism often adorn themselves with the trappings of Judaism. These measure their spirituality by how well they keep the law.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
