Connecting the Dots . . .

[Bookends]

9. In 1948 A.D., the new sovereign nation of Israel was established by what were primarily Ashkenazi Jews. Then in 1967, by those same ten “lost” tribes, Jerusalem was finally freed of Gentile control for the first time in 2573 years!

There is only one way the Jew can become part of God's economy, and that's outlined in Leviticus 26

[SUP]40 [/SUP]‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,

[SUP]41 [/SUP]and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
[SUP]42 [/SUP]then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.

The Israelites did repent once upon their return from Babylonian captivity, not today they never have repented from their unbelief as a nation as a whole. The few that did, became Christians.

 

[JaumeJ]

Since the days of our Lord's holy mission until this moment no man has been perfect in knowledge of the Word except for knowing Yeshua crucified for his sin. Yahweh, God, comes to each of us in the manner only He knows is necessary. For anyone to feel all others should be obligated to embrace his understanding of Holy Scripture not dealing with salvation and not substantiated in plain words in the Word is unreasonable.
As for just how each predictive prophecy will come about or has come about, the best singular approach to that wisdom is to wait on Yahweh, God, to reveal whatever pleases Him. Meanwhile we wait on Him, we worship, praise and adore Him because of His Gift to those who accept It. The Gift is His Only Begotten Son for the salvation of those who believe Him
Believing our Lord is wisdom, while interpretation of the Word is of the Holy Spirit. We cannot ask for any more, and our loving Father will give us nothing less. Praise Yahweh, God Almighty; He is so good always, amen.

 

[zone]

Connecting The Dots . . .

1. The 10 tribes of Israel were taken captive by Shalmaneser the Assyrian in 725-722 B. C. and dispersed into the Caucasus Mountains region.

Deuteronomy 4:27 “And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.”

Amos 9:8-9 “Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom (Israel), and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations (so the ten tribes were dispersed among the Gentiles), like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.” (But none of them will be lost)

2. Just analyzed documents from the former USSR indicates that in the following centuries, a large unidentified body of light-skinned blue-eyed people migrated from South of the Caucuses into Kingdom of Khazaria.

3. During the Islamic expansion of the 8th century, a Moslem army under Abdel Rahman tried to invade Europe through a pass in the Caucasus, but Khazarian armies defeated him. Were it not for the bulwark of Khazaria, Christian Europe could have fallen to Islam from the East.

4. Not wanting religious wars to divide his country, the King of the Khazars ordered three missionaries to appear before his court: a Christian monk, a Jewish priest and a Moslem Imam.

5. After carefully listening to the arguments of each, the King of the Khazars chose Judaism to be the state religion!

6. Later, the people in Khazaria clinging to Judaism emigrated to Europe, where they became known as Ashkenazi Jews.

Leviticus 26:33 “And I will . . . draw out a sword after you.”

7. Then came Hitler and the Holocaust, in which the Nazis in their death camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Buchenwald, Treblinka, and in over 1000 ghettos, tried but failed to exterminate the Ashkenazi Jews.

Deuteronomy 4:30-31 “When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.”

8. After the Holocaust, what was left of the Ashkenazi Jews fled Europe and immigrated to the holy land.

Jeremiah 29:14 “And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.”

9. In 1948 A.D., the new sovereign nation of Israel was established by what were primarily Ashkenazi Jews. Then in 1967, by those same ten “lost” tribes, Jerusalem was finally freed of Gentile control for the first time in 2573 years!

the whole narrative is a sham ellis.

parts of it are true. but not the way you say. you really shouldn't do this.

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Medieval Kingdom of Khazaria, 652-1016
Over a thousand years ago, the far east of Europe was ruled by Jewish kings who presided over numerous tribes, including their own tribe: the Turkic Khazars. After their conversion, the Khazar people used Jewish personal names, spoke and wrote in Hebrew, were circumcised, had synagogues and rabbis, studied the Torah and Talmud, and observed Hanukkah, Pesach, and the Sabbath. The Khazars were an advanced civilization with one of the most tolerant societies of the medieval period. It hosted merchants from all over Asia and Europe. On these pages it is hoped that you may learn more about this fascinating culture.

Khazaria.com - History of Jewish Khazars, Khazar Turk, Khazarian Jews < click


the Khazars don't claim to be authentic israelites.
they say they were gentiles who converted.

the ten tribes were not lost geographically - if they were not in Palestine when Jesus appeared, Redemptive History is meaningless. it says Jesus was sent tothe lost sheep of Israel, but never found them because they were not there.

the Byzantine church and the Muslims believed the Ashkenazim were Gog/Magog.

we better be careful, and take care to consider the implication of theosophy or race-based ideologies and beliefs, ellis.
this has never been about race.

i'll tell you again...my mother's side were ashkenazi.
i'm a jew inwardly. most likely a gentile to begin with.

 

[Laodicea]

Then God through the prophet Ezekiel tells that a prophetic day should be understood as a year . . .

Ezekiel 4:6
"And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year."

Islam began building the blasphemous Dome of the Rock on Gods Temple Mount in 688AD. The new nation of Israel was established in 1948 . . .

688+1260=1948

The 1260 days started AFTER 688AD. Why? Because prior to the construction of the Islamic Dome of the Rock, both Jews and Gentiles could could have worshiped on the Temple Mount. In fact, Jerusalem was the home of the great Coptic Church. Only after the Islamic Jihad of the 7th Century were Christians and Jews prevented from worshiping on the site.

The problem with that theory is that the dome of the rock still stands. Since you start it with the dome of the rock then it should end with the destruction of it.

 

[zone]

The problem with that theory is that the dome of the rock still stands. Since you start it with the dome of the rock then it should end with the destruction of it.

high-five on that Lao!
good catch.

another hole in the D.O.R. is the A.O.D.

now we just gotta convince you the Vatican isn't the Beast
and Sunday worship isn't the mark...
your friend
z

 

[Laodicea]

LOL, 70 years ago I saw Scripture just like you guys do. Matter of fact, those were the kind of doctrines I was taught in Bible College. Years of further study made me abandom them. I will state it flat out, none of you understand Revelation and you want to know why?

First off: What Does the word "Revelation" mean?

Dictionary definition: "Revealing knowledge that was previously unknown. The uncovering of obscure or hidden truth. The disclosure or conveying of divine purpose."

Revelation by its very name should be a revelation!!! In other words, it should reveal truths to us that we don’t already know! But do we go to Revelation that way? NO! We go to Revelation with our end-time traditions firmly in place.

To learn from Revelation, we must enter the book with an open mind and allow the Lord to replace our debatable traditions with truth!

Do we do that? No, and the Lord can teach us nothing from Revelation until we do. Of course you can learn lots from the dubious commentaries, but that is all you’ll have, the doctrines of men.

Looks like you are lifting yourself up.

 

[Laodicea]

high-five on that Lao!
good catch.

another hole in the D.O.R. is the A.O.D.

now we just gotta convince you the Vatican isn't the Beast
and Sunday worship isn't the mark...
your friend
z

 

[Therapon]

the whole narrative is a sham ellis. parts of it are true. but not the way you say. you really shouldn't do this..

What part of the lately discovered historic documents from the USSR that speak of a large body of light-skinned people migrating from south of the Caucasus and being assimilated into the Khazarian people don't you like? I'll bet if you looked around on the internet you could find that same article yourself. Problem with you, Zone, is that you are always trying to prove the other fellow wrong, rather than looking at the possibility that he might be right.

 

[zone]

What part of the lately discovered historic documents from the USSR that speak of a large body of light-skinned people migrating from south of the Caucasus and being assimilated into the Khazarian people don't you like? I'll bet if you looked around on the internet you could find that same article yourself. Problem with you, Zone, is that you are always trying to prove the other fellow wrong, rather than looking at the possibility that he might be right.

"lately discovered historic documents from the USSR that speak of a large body of light-skinned people migrating from south of the Caucasus and being assimilated into the Khazarian people don't you like?"

could i see them please?
and what's with the light skin bit?
are you trying to tell me Wolf Blitzer's family EVER lived in Palestine?
i don't think so.

mine didn't. they were Turkic gentile converts to Talmudism.
okay? they lived in Poland etc and spoke Yiddish.
then they moved to Germany.

saying they are jews, but aren't....well...they were.....but not israelites.

no...that stuff coming out of Soviet Bolsh....i mean Russia, IF it exists would be exactly what i would expect it to be.
a 180 on the Khazars actually being Israelites...

was Paul mistaken for a white man? or was he mistaken for en egyptian?

btw: did you know Iranians are also Caucasians?
oh dear....


i looked at your theory. it's not right.
we've already been through this.

did you read my posts ellis?

did you look and see the Byzantine Church and those dastardly Moooslims said the Khazars were Gog?

 

[peterT]

I was trying to talk to you privately, man-to-man, to suggest that personal insults should not be used to browbeat those with whom you disagree. My view was obviously not to your liking so you decided to make a public spectacle of my private message to you. So be it, but you would be well advised not to pursue it.

I’d be well advised not to pursue it. Pursue WHAT? I have no idea what you are talking about.

It’s funny you can accuse me of calling you a fool which I never did, and you are upset with me?

Don’t send me any more emails and then that problem you are having will be solved

You can say anything to me man to man on this thread, no need to do it behind the scenes with innuendos, you can say anything, I can take it Bro

 

[Therapon]

Looks like you are lifting yourself up.

Not at all. It was what I had to do before the Lord could open my eyes to His word. But that's not all He had to do, to understand Revelation, I had to become Jesus' slave. . . .

Revelation 1:1 (Literal version) "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to Him to show to His slaves things which must occur quickly. And He signified by sending through His angel to His slave, John."

In Greek, the original language of the New Testament, the Lord named many different kinds of servants: the pais, the presbuteros the diakonos, the episkopos, the leitourgikos, the huperetes, the therapon, etc., but Revelation wasn’t written to any of those servants. It was written to Jesus’ doulos, His slaves! One may indeed be Jesus’ servant, even a church leader, a presbuteros or episkopos, but to understand Revelation, that person must also be Jesus’ slave!

If I was unwilling to become Jesus slave, Revelation wouldn't open to me because it wasn't written to me. I have taught in churches of most denominations. The largest group in the congregation is usually those who sit there with their arms crossed, who couldn't hear a spiritual truth if you were levetated three feet off the floor and God's hand was actually writing it on the wall. The next largest group would sit there grinning and nodding, but forget every word you said as soon as they walked out of the church. It was the third and smallest group that you were really there for, Jesus slaves. They would hear truth with gladness, take it into their hearts, amd then go forth and bring forth fruit, some 30, some 60 ande some 100 fold.

 

[Abiding]

that font is just rude

 

[jimmydiggs]

that font is just rude

That's how I feel about bright colors, and posts with enough colors to put he rainbow on unemployment checks.

 

[zone]

ya diggs i hear ya on that one.
good thing i never use colors and stuff in posts.

 

[SarahM777]

ya diggs i hear ya on that one.
good thing i never use colors and stuff in posts.

But it's really hard for us with low definition eyes to see that teeny tiny (Lawyer type) print.

 

[zone]

But it's really hard for us with low definition eyes to see that teeny tiny (Lawyer type) print.

i know!

 

[SarahM777]

Same here

 

[Therapon]

The problem with that theory is that the dome of the rock still stands. Since you start it with the dome of the rock then it should end with the destruction of it.

<smile> I don't have the authority to tell God what He should have prophecied. But to reinforce those numbers, the 42 months of Revelation 11:2 are 1278.34 days.

Jerusalem was freed of Gentile control in 1967, that is a historic fact.

1967-1278.34=688AD and the Dome of the Rock.

Then there is Revelation 12:6. "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place, it having been prepared from God, that there they might nourish her a thousand two hundred and sixty days."

688+1260= 1948 and the new Nation of Israel.

Thewn there is Daniel 12:11: "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

It is exactly 1290 Hebrew years from when Sacrifices were abolished in Daniel's time until 688AD when the Muslims began to build the Dome of the Rock. So the Dome of the Rock is the Moslem horror that makes the "footstool of God's feet" desolate.

According to most folks on this forum, that's all just coincidence and besides, we know Therapon to be a heratic, LOL, so let's just ignore the data. What's more, it conflicts with our end-time doctrines. You know brethren, I would laugh my stupid head off if it weren't so tragic. In Revelation, we now have the greatest opening of God's word since the New Testament was written, but you make every effort to prove it wrong.

 

[zone]

<smile> I don't have the authority to tell God what He should have prophecied. But to reinforce those numbers, the 42 months of Revelation 11:2 are 1278.34 days.

Jerusalem was freed of Gentile control in 1967, that is a historic fact.

1967-1278.34=688AD and the Dome of the Rock.

Then there is Revelation 12:6. "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place, it having been prepared from God, that there they might nourish her a thousand two hundred and sixty days."

688+1260= 1948 and the new Nation of Israel.

Thewn there is Daniel 12:11: "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

It is exactly 1290 Hebrew years from when Sacrifices were abolished in Daniel's time until 688AD when the Muslims began to build the Dome of the Rock. So the Dome of the Rock is the Moslem horror that makes the "footstool of God's feet" desolate.

According to most folks on this forum, that's all just coincidence and besides, we know Therapon to be a heratic, LOL, so let's just ignore the data. What's more, it conflicts with our end-time doctrines. You know brethren, I would laugh my stupid head off if it weren't so tragic. In Revelation, we now have the greatest opening of God's word since the New Testament was written, but you make every effort to prove it wrong.

where is the return from Babylon?
where is JESUS and HIS CROSS?
where is Pentecost?
where is the scattering of the christians just before 70AD?
where is 70AD? < is this what you mean by "Daniel's Time"?

In Revelation, we now have the greatest opening of God's word since the New Testament was written, but you make every effort to prove it wrong.

ellis....you became Christ's slave and Revelation was revealed to you, and you worked out the math, and so "we now have the greatest opening of God's word since the New Testament was written"?

no. your 70th week is a magic trick.
you're trying to make the Holocaust out to be the valley of dry bones.
or something.

you said the parable of the old wine skins was the Old Testament Jews (Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees, so presumably He meant them?), and the new wine was...the New Covenant Gospel? which the old skins couldn't receive cuz they would have burst open and perished.

you said there are two witnesses of God (meaning He has two Covenants on the go right now); two olive trees are the two witnesses...one is the gentile church, and one is the jews under the Old Covenant.

where does it say there is 'a gentile church?'


uh....??

do you read and write Hebrew?

 

[Therapon]

As I wrote earlier, the largest group in a congregation is usually those who sit there with their arms crossed, who couldn't hear a spiritual truth if you were levetating three feet off the floor and God's hand was actually writing it on the wall.

So rather than just throwing up straw-men that you want me to waste my time knocking down, why not try proving those numbers wrong? Try proving why Rev 1:20, Rev11:3-4 and Romans 11:24-25 and 11:28-29 don't show that the Two Witnesses of the Christian era are the Jewish people and the Gentile Church. Try proving from the Bible why the Islamic Dome of the Rock and 688AD doesn't fit those Scriptures and thus is the biblical "abomination that maketh desolate."

You know what? I'm sick of this and I'm out of here.