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I only see where God would send His Prophets to warn the Hebrews they were sinning. I do not see where God sent the Prophets to preach to the Gentiles. So if people died for 4,000 years (Hebrew/Gentile), only the Hebrew people were saved Eternally, not the Gentiles before Jesus walked this Earth.

Are the people of Sodom in hell?
 
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EleventhHour said:
They were saved the same way the Jews were saved back then.
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I am not talking about God's Chosen in the Old Testament but everyone else like Sodom, Egypt, Canaan, Edom, Meades, Persian, etc... those people are still in hell.
 
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It's 2 Peter (3):

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
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Sir, verse 5 ties back to the creation account of land...please remember that the waters were drawn together so that earth patches appeared and this HE called, land.
 
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Some type of Earthquake did have to happen and maybe the flood did it, but look at a world globe. Look at the America Continents and look at Africa and the Europe Continents. Clearly, if you remove the Atlantic Ocean and put the land masses together, they were once together as one big land mass.
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Yes, but this does not answer the question, for you said:

Volcanoes would spew poisonous gases so even NOAH would had died.

Volcanoes erupt to this day that do not kill the entire population of Earth.

If dinosaurs were wiped out by such, it does not necessarily follow that the same would have killed Noah.
 
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The puzzle points to CHRIST...that is the revelation which one reading THE WORD of GOD should ultimately come to
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Amen!

But there are many other things that happened that we discover by those pieces.
 
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I only see where God would send His Prophets to warn the Hebrews they were sinning. I do not see where God sent the Prophets to preach to the Gentiles. So if people died for 4,000 years (Hebrew/Gentile), only the Hebrew people were saved Eternally, not the Gentiles before Jesus walked this Earth.

Are the people of Sodom in hell?
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“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” Isaiah 43:10

“Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Genesis 12:1-3
 
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I am not talking about God's Chosen in the Old Testament but everyone else like Sodom, Egypt, Canaan, Edom, Meades, Persian, etc... those people are still in hell.
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Matthew 10:15 shows that it will be MORE bearable for the men of Sodom, sir..
They WILL stand in the judgment, just as John 5 says...a time will come when ALL will hear the VOICE of the SON of GOD...
 
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Magenta said:
Yes, but this does not answer the question, for you said:

Volcanoes would spew poisonous gases so even NOAH would had died.

Volcanoes erupt to this day that do not kill the entire population of Earth.

If dinosaurs were wiped out by such, it does not necessarily follow that the same would have killed Noah.
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My point was pertaining to atmosphere. If the Atmosphere was different, those volcanoes would kill people.
 
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Amen!

But there are many other things that happened that we discover by those pieces.
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Is it more important than THE TESTIMONY?

Please refer to Isaiah 8 and understand that in the last days, many will be running after...words that are meaningless dribble..
 
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EleventhHour said:
“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” Isaiah 43:10
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But Isaiah was a Prophet to his own people and the person of God to the enemy of his people.
 
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Is it more important than THE TESTIMONY?

Please refer to Isaiah 8 and understand that in the last days, many will be running after...words that are meaningless dribble..
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hahahaha we go from 1 topic to this. I am answering according to what this thread is designed for.
 
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I miswrote it then ,because it has always been 2 Peter chapter 3.
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No...you referred to the very verse in 2 Peter 2 when you gave your long excerpt, pages back...I will get it for you
 
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God created humans knowing that if there was 50 trillion persons to ever exist, that only 10% will actually accept God.

When the Hebrew people existed, the Egyptians, Asians, Greeks, Babylonians, Persians, Meades, Canaanites, Edomites, about a hundred more sects of people I could list that were all were going to hell.
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I don´t know if I can agree with you on this...because I know the men of Ninevah, and the men of Sodom will stand in the Judgement...

Just as the WORD of GOD says...
 
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And his people were a witness to God.
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The story of Lazarus and the rich man. All the people not Hebrew from the Old Testament were with the rich man. They did not have the opportunity for salvation like we (Gentiles after Jesus DBR do).
 
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hahahaha we go from 1 topic to this. I am answering according to what this thread is designed for.
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This is MOST important sir...especially if these are the beginnings of labor pains and closing in to the days of tribulation....

read Isaiah 8 and tell me what you are a WITNESS to and what you are TESTIFYING to...
 
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No...you referred to the very verse in 2 Peter 2 when you gave your long excerpt, pages back...I will get it for you
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No, the expert notation is not what I wrote but it is from 2 Peter 3. I just put wrong Scripture reference down.
 
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This is MOST important sir...especially if these are the beginnings of labor pains and closing in to the days of tribulation....

read Isaiah 8 and tell me what you are a WITNESS to and what you are TESTIFYING to...
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We are discussing Creation and the possible of reCreation and you are now discussing the "End" of it all.
 
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The story of Lazarus and the rich man. All the people not Hebrew from the Old Testament were with the rich man. They did not have the opportunity for salvation like we (Gentiles after Jesus DBR do).
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Rahab (Joshua 2): The Canaanite prostitute
 
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The story of Lazarus and the rich man. All the people not Hebrew from the Old Testament were with the rich man. They did not have the opportunity for salvation like we (Gentiles after Jesus DBR do).
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Yes they did.
Re read Peters letters...
If HE led captivity in HIS TRAIN...who do you think those might have been
 
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