-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I was curious if you thought any part of Yahweh;s Law was valid or profitable.
Honestly with a lot of your remarks I was unsure of your stance. Just being honest.
We have all Sacrificed Messiah so we have sacrificed.
and priesthood is being carried out by the Messiah right now and forever.
So is it only the Sabbath/Feasts you think is changed or done away?
Honestly with a lot of your remarks I was unsure of your stance. Just being honest.
We have all Sacrificed Messiah so we have sacrificed.
and priesthood is being carried out by the Messiah right now and forever.
So is it only the Sabbath/Feasts you think is changed or done away?
I can't see that how a person cannot see that Homosexuality is a mental or a hormonal imbalance problem. People just don't get out of their bed and say that they are going to try out the same sex for a while. Some how something went wrong with the person mind, like a person that has dyslexia which that person perception is different from the average person. I know that homosexuals doesn't want to be consider as a mentally challenge person like every other mentally challenge person doesn't like to be given that title. And to the ones that has been abandoned in a relationship, and they start practicing homosexuality because they are afraid of being hurt again by someone that they love, but still that is an mental and a emotional problem as well. These people need of healing, but since we are all lacking faith, we feel that they cannot be heal.
We has morphodites or hermaphrodites that are born in this world, but we doesn't condemn them to hell? But they had in the past. Maybe the dietary laws were meant to help the person to develop properly; but some of the people love to eat snails and lobsters and etc..., and maybe these species causes an hormonal imbalance and which effect are development. So I guess we will never know since we came up with our own analysis on homosexuality.
We has morphodites or hermaphrodites that are born in this world, but we doesn't condemn them to hell? But they had in the past. Maybe the dietary laws were meant to help the person to develop properly; but some of the people love to eat snails and lobsters and etc..., and maybe these species causes an hormonal imbalance and which effect are development. So I guess we will never know since we came up with our own analysis on homosexuality.
D
1) If by "Yahweh;s Law" you mean The law of Christ then yes they are valid.
2) If by "Yahweh;s Law" you mean the Mosaic laws then no, they are not valid nor of any benefit to the NT believer.
3) "We have all Sacrificed Messiah so we have sacrificed." I can't recall a verse that states this. Instead, John 3:16 states that God gave His only Son so that we can be saved.
4) "So is it only the Sabbath/Feasts you think is changed or done away?" I would not state it that way but that is what it is. I would say the Mosaic law has no hold on NT believers (Rom 7:6) as the NT believer is under the law of Christ (1 Cor 9:21). The law of Christ is the moral laws also found in the OT.
2) If by "Yahweh;s Law" you mean the Mosaic laws then no, they are not valid nor of any benefit to the NT believer.
3) "We have all Sacrificed Messiah so we have sacrificed." I can't recall a verse that states this. Instead, John 3:16 states that God gave His only Son so that we can be saved.
4) "So is it only the Sabbath/Feasts you think is changed or done away?" I would not state it that way but that is what it is. I would say the Mosaic law has no hold on NT believers (Rom 7:6) as the NT believer is under the law of Christ (1 Cor 9:21). The law of Christ is the moral laws also found in the OT.
Were they sinners?
Matthew 8:28
When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.
John 13:27
As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.”
They had believed that when there's something went wrong with a person, they was considered to be demon possess. They believed that in order for a demon to have had enter a person, that person must of sinned to be possessed, like in the story of Job, his friends had thought that Job was a sinner in order for him to be under a curse. And yes, the Bible does say that homosexual is a sin, but it also has said that if we say to our brothers, "You fool", is endanger of being in hell. But nobody doesn't care about that sinful act, because God know that we makes mistakes and He will forgive us anyway. But those homosexuals, we can't even stand for them to be in our presence, that sin is to nasty, but our sins are clean and neat. If you ever been around a orthodox jew, they think that we pork eaters are so discussing and believe that we will all burn forever. They wonder how can we do such a thing and eat something so foul. They wouldn't even shake a pig eaters hands, they think that they are sick.
John 9:1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.
Matthew 8:28
When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.
John 13:27
As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.”
They had believed that when there's something went wrong with a person, they was considered to be demon possess. They believed that in order for a demon to have had enter a person, that person must of sinned to be possessed, like in the story of Job, his friends had thought that Job was a sinner in order for him to be under a curse. And yes, the Bible does say that homosexual is a sin, but it also has said that if we say to our brothers, "You fool", is endanger of being in hell. But nobody doesn't care about that sinful act, because God know that we makes mistakes and He will forgive us anyway. But those homosexuals, we can't even stand for them to be in our presence, that sin is to nasty, but our sins are clean and neat. If you ever been around a orthodox jew, they think that we pork eaters are so discussing and believe that we will all burn forever. They wonder how can we do such a thing and eat something so foul. They wouldn't even shake a pig eaters hands, they think that they are sick.
John 9:1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.
L
Romans 7:6 KJV
(6) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Romans 6:4 KJV
(4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans 7:6 talks about serving in newness of spirit Romans 6:4 talks about walking in newness of life. So it is clear it is the same info spoken in a different way
Romans 6:6-7 KJV
(6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
(7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
So we are to be dead to sin and walk in newness of life
(6) But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Romans 6:4 KJV
(4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Romans 7:6 talks about serving in newness of spirit Romans 6:4 talks about walking in newness of life. So it is clear it is the same info spoken in a different way
Romans 6:6-7 KJV
(6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
(7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
So we are to be dead to sin and walk in newness of life
Leviticus 20:1 says, And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying. Then in verse 2 the Word says, who He was saying it to. Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel. It doesn't say to the Jews only. i just can't see in the Word, that the Father was speaking to the Jews only, as some keep saying.
And your conclusion is that ...
Exo 20:1 And (1)God spoke all these words, saying:
Exo 20:2 "I am the (2)LORD your (3)God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
(1) God here...
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
(2)LORD here...
H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
(3) God here...
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
is referring to Moses? My suggestion is that you go back and reread your statement about a conclusion based on error.
As far as who this is speaking the Ten Commandments...
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
I am pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.
Exo 20:1 And (1)God spoke all these words, saying:
Exo 20:2 "I am the (2)LORD your (3)God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
(1) God here...
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
(2)LORD here...
H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
(3) God here...
H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhı̂ym
el-o-heem'
Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
is referring to Moses? My suggestion is that you go back and reread your statement about a conclusion based on error.
As far as who this is speaking the Ten Commandments...
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
I am pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.
Well, Laodicea my friend, here is the problem...
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.