Did Jesus abolish the law? Should we keep the commandments?
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The law Is GOD's perfect standard of righteousness.Anyone that tries to keep the ten commandments will have to keep the law by their own will and because of the weakness of the flesh man would come up short.
That's why JESUS came to earth,If man could have fulfilled the law perfectly,JESUS would not have had to come to earth to fulfill the law.
Some believe that the same GOD that spoke In the old testament Is the same GOD that speaks In the New testament and since GOD does not change,they should keep the law and be under Grace at the same time but man Is carnal and although man delights In the law of GOD he would be brought Into captivity to the law of sin when trying to keep the law.
All the law and the prophets are summed up In one word,love and we love because GOD first loved us,for we are HIS workmanship created IN CHRIST unto good works that we should walk In them.
JESUS Is the vine,we are the branches receiving sustenance from the vine and displaying spiritual fruit establishing the law.
That's why JESUS came to earth,If man could have fulfilled the law perfectly,JESUS would not have had to come to earth to fulfill the law.
Some believe that the same GOD that spoke In the old testament Is the same GOD that speaks In the New testament and since GOD does not change,they should keep the law and be under Grace at the same time but man Is carnal and although man delights In the law of GOD he would be brought Into captivity to the law of sin when trying to keep the law.
All the law and the prophets are summed up In one word,love and we love because GOD first loved us,for we are HIS workmanship created IN CHRIST unto good works that we should walk In them.
JESUS Is the vine,we are the branches receiving sustenance from the vine and displaying spiritual fruit establishing the law.
Anyone who has had the law taken from stone to the fleshy tablets of the heart is able to witness as to what is in effect. This would include the laws not yet included in those Jesus fulfilled, the priesthood, the Temple, Sacrificial, dietary, and more leaving only those laws He has not, those laws which are of morality and mercy, justice and faith.
My heart witnesses to the Ten Commandments and all the laws thaat fall within. There are no longer 611 more or less but there afre quite a few.
Read the laws, see the wisdom, and allow your own heart to testify of what still is, I believe the law is still totally in effect however without the curse and without those impossible to consider when we are merciful and within the Ten Commandmetns.
Try allowing your heart to witness and know exactly what is true in the sight of God.
Anyone teaching against the Law as it is now, and the Ten Commandments is nsot allowing their hearts and their new person to witness them.
It would be a very Disneyland faith to think we are not to obey theFather in every manner proper and dignified by Him. It is calling His wisdom useless, perhaps ever foolish.
Do not teach disobedience to any who are saved by grace,; you will not be making any sense to the hearts of those truly converted to God.
My heart witnesses to the Ten Commandments and all the laws thaat fall within. There are no longer 611 more or less but there afre quite a few.
Read the laws, see the wisdom, and allow your own heart to testify of what still is, I believe the law is still totally in effect however without the curse and without those impossible to consider when we are merciful and within the Ten Commandmetns.
Try allowing your heart to witness and know exactly what is true in the sight of God.
Anyone teaching against the Law as it is now, and the Ten Commandments is nsot allowing their hearts and their new person to witness them.
It would be a very Disneyland faith to think we are not to obey theFather in every manner proper and dignified by Him. It is calling His wisdom useless, perhaps ever foolish.
Do not teach disobedience to any who are saved by grace,; you will not be making any sense to the hearts of those truly converted to God.
Did I even imply or suggest this? Imputed righteousness causes a sinner to become a saint, and saints must be holy and righteous by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit. Along with imputed righteousness, God gives the sinner the gift of the Holy Ghost, who then regenerates that person and puts God's laws in their hearts and minds to be obeyed without question. But now we are on the subject of sanctification, and it seems a lot of people get sanctification mixed up with justification.
RED. Correct.
If I may add, the Israelites also worshipped false gods, which is why some of the things they did in both the Old and New Testaments conflict with the commandments the true God, who is the I AM, gave to Moses.
The 613 Mitzvot laws are the laws of the Scribes and Pharisees. This is what Jesus said about those laws:
“These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.They worship me
in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.” Matthew 15:8-9
“They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:14.
Jesus said to them, “why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?” Matthew 15:3
“For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.” Mar 7:8
“And Jesus said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God,that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mar 7:9
“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.” Mar 7:13
If I may add, the Israelites also worshipped false gods, which is why some of the things they did in both the Old and New Testaments conflict with the commandments the true God, who is the I AM, gave to Moses.
The 613 Mitzvot laws are the laws of the Scribes and Pharisees. This is what Jesus said about those laws:
“These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.They worship me
in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.” Matthew 15:8-9
“They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:14.
Jesus said to them, “why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?” Matthew 15:3
“For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.” Mar 7:8
“And Jesus said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God,that ye may keep your own tradition.” Mar 7:9
“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.” Mar 7:13
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It wasn't just about the 613 that the Lord had that to say.
It was to ALL that thought they could work at and fulfill the 10.
Because that way had already Failed. The Lord Jesus was there to institute a New Way.
Hebrews 7:18-19
[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Romans 9:31-33
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[FONT="]31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;[/FONT]
[FONT="]33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Neither of these is talking about 613. Its talking about what the 613 was based on, the 10. The law.[/FONT]
It was to ALL that thought they could work at and fulfill the 10.
Because that way had already Failed. The Lord Jesus was there to institute a New Way.
Hebrews 7:18-19
[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Romans 9:31-33
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[FONT="]31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;[/FONT]
[FONT="]33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Neither of these is talking about 613. Its talking about what the 613 was based on, the 10. The law.[/FONT]
Jesus abolished the law. and we must keep His commandments.
paul gives many new covenant commandments and john and Jesus and so on.
this is yet another topic where if u dont rightly divide u will be mixed up in all kinds of false doctrines. primary place to find the church age doctrine and gospel is romans to philemon. paul is writing to gentile christians thats where u cant go wrong.
very little dividing skills required in there
paul gives many new covenant commandments and john and Jesus and so on.
this is yet another topic where if u dont rightly divide u will be mixed up in all kinds of false doctrines. primary place to find the church age doctrine and gospel is romans to philemon. paul is writing to gentile christians thats where u cant go wrong.
very little dividing skills required in there
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]
He didn't abolish Gods law. He did away with the law of sin and death. The law of sin and death is this: the soul who sins will die.
The new, life giving way we graciously have been given frees us from the law of sin and death/ the soul who sins must die, which led to fear and anxiety and never having a clean conscience.
This new way is by faith in Him to keep His promises and to cause us to be upright and pleasing to God rather than the old way of our own working. So we don't walk by the law but by faith in Him.
The law is spirit because God is Spirit. We may not understand the spirit of every jot and tittle, but what is spiritual and good will never be abolished. He didn't come to abolish Gods law but to fulfill it in each of us.
His aim is to make us law abiding, not lawbreaking and He does this from start to finish by us trusting Him to do it. And He does it from the inside out, not from the outside in. And WHILE He is doing it, and WHILE we stumble often, we have great relief and rest at the same time because of the Precious Blood.
The new, life giving way we graciously have been given frees us from the law of sin and death/ the soul who sins must die, which led to fear and anxiety and never having a clean conscience.
This new way is by faith in Him to keep His promises and to cause us to be upright and pleasing to God rather than the old way of our own working. So we don't walk by the law but by faith in Him.
The law is spirit because God is Spirit. We may not understand the spirit of every jot and tittle, but what is spiritual and good will never be abolished. He didn't come to abolish Gods law but to fulfill it in each of us.
His aim is to make us law abiding, not lawbreaking and He does this from start to finish by us trusting Him to do it. And He does it from the inside out, not from the outside in. And WHILE He is doing it, and WHILE we stumble often, we have great relief and rest at the same time because of the Precious Blood.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The “curse of the Law” is receiving death for sin worthy of death. Yahshua/Jesus took that curse upon Himself for all those in Him.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 21:22-23, “And when a man has committed a sin worthy of death, then he shall be put to death and you shall hang him on a tree. Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Yah – so that you do not defile the land which [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength is giving you as an inheritance.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:10-14, “10, "For as many as are of works of Torah are under the curse, for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all that has been written in the Book of the Torah, to do them.” (Deut 27:26) 11, "And that no one is declared right by Torah before YHWH is clear, for “The righteous shall live by belief. (Hab 2:4)” 12, "And the Torah is not of belief, but “The man who does them shall live by them, (Leviticus 18:5)” 13, "Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Torah, having become a curse for us – for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs upon a tree.” – (Deut 21:23) 14, "in order that the blessing of Aḇraham might come upon the nations in Messiah [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to receive the promise of the Spirit through belief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law (death), being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 53:4-5, “Truly, He has borne our sicknesses and carried our pains. Yet we reckoned Him smitten·, stricken by YHWH, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our crookedness. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 4:1-2, "Therefore, since Messiah suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so that he no longer lives the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but according to the desire of YHWH."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 21:22-23, “And when a man has committed a sin worthy of death, then he shall be put to death and you shall hang him on a tree. Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Yah – so that you do not defile the land which [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength is giving you as an inheritance.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:10-14, “10, "For as many as are of works of Torah are under the curse, for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all that has been written in the Book of the Torah, to do them.” (Deut 27:26) 11, "And that no one is declared right by Torah before YHWH is clear, for “The righteous shall live by belief. (Hab 2:4)” 12, "And the Torah is not of belief, but “The man who does them shall live by them, (Leviticus 18:5)” 13, "Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Torah, having become a curse for us – for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs upon a tree.” – (Deut 21:23) 14, "in order that the blessing of Aḇraham might come upon the nations in Messiah [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to receive the promise of the Spirit through belief."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law (death), being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 53:4-5, “Truly, He has borne our sicknesses and carried our pains. Yet we reckoned Him smitten·, stricken by YHWH, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our crookedness. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Peter 4:1-2, "Therefore, since Messiah suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so that he no longer lives the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but according to the desire of YHWH."[/FONT]
My mind and soul are moved by an holy manner and that is how the hearts of those who believe God witness to the truth and wisdom of the Commandments.
Once more, to teach against obeying God is simply not wise. It may be clever or crafty, but never wise.
Praise Jesus Christ and bless His Holy Fame, amen.
Once more, to teach against obeying God is simply not wise. It may be clever or crafty, but never wise.
Praise Jesus Christ and bless His Holy Fame, amen.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 11:19-21, “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Strength. But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:15, "Who show the work of the Torah (Instructions/Law) written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing (condemming sin) or even excusing (justifying sin)."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 51:7, “Listen to Me, you who know righteousness, a people in whose heart is My Torah (Instructions/Law): do not fear the reproach of men, nor be afraid of their reviling.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:15, "Who show the work of the Torah (Instructions/Law) written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing (condemming sin) or even excusing (justifying sin)."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 51:7, “Listen to Me, you who know righteousness, a people in whose heart is My Torah (Instructions/Law): do not fear the reproach of men, nor be afraid of their reviling.”[/FONT]
Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Hebrews is talking about the Levitical Law, and Romans is talking to Israel and therefore the Levitical Law because the Gentiles did not have it.
Anyway, the Levitical Law is dead and finished, it never was any good for salvation anyway, therefore why keep harping on about it.
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Hebrews is talking about the Levitical Law, and Romans is talking to Israel and therefore the Levitical Law because the Gentiles did not have it.
Anyway, the Levitical Law is dead and finished, it never was any good for salvation anyway, therefore why keep harping on about it.
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Jesus Christ fulfilled the law and the prophets, this does not mean He abolished anything.
If your new heart does not witness to the love and wisdom in the laws and commandments remaining
after Christ's fulfilling them, I am sorry for you.
There is nothing evil about the laws and commandments remaing, however those who do not learn from Jesus Christ cannot
know this. This ignorance does not give anyone the right in the sight of God to teach agains the law under grace.
Your heart should bear witness to the love contained in the remianing laws, but it seems you cannot distinguishe between the remaining and the fulfilled.
Now show where Jesus teaches the law is abolished! You cannot.
If your new heart does not witness to the love and wisdom in the laws and commandments remaining
after Christ's fulfilling them, I am sorry for you.
There is nothing evil about the laws and commandments remaing, however those who do not learn from Jesus Christ cannot
know this. This ignorance does not give anyone the right in the sight of God to teach agains the law under grace.
Your heart should bear witness to the love contained in the remianing laws, but it seems you cannot distinguishe between the remaining and the fulfilled.
Now show where Jesus teaches the law is abolished! You cannot.
Amen the letter of the law as that which we see with our eyes or hear with our ears it kills ...performing what it was intended to do . The spirit of the law, the law of faith it heals and gives new spirit life that could never die .
The letter of the law given by the one typified as the law giver (Moses) it brings the second death the one Christ atoned for. .
I would think it is why in the parable of the Rock in Numbers 20 it used to represent Christ who was to be stuck once to indicate the father bruising the Son by whom stripes we are healed of an eternal debt signified in that parable as the living water coming out as the gospel . The unseen reason in that historically true parable
Moses used to t signify the law is typified of not entering the promised eternal land.(the new heavens and earth).
It I would think support the verses you offered. .The letter of the law will not perish, until then the first heaven and earth pass away.
And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as he commanded him.And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. Num 20:9
The law of God as to the letter will not enter the new heavens and earth .(Moses used as a metaphor will)
I wasn't talking about a levitical law and neither was Hebrews talking about ONLY a levitical law.
Romans 9 is in no way talking about a levitical law.
This is merely fantasy brewed up by Judaizers and legalists who know nothing but working at law.
You think that the levitical law was referred to as the Law of Righteousness by anyone? It makes absolutely no sense. Israel didn't work at the law of the levites. Only levites did.
Its extremely clear that Hebrews 7 and Romans 9 is talking about the 10 commandments.
Hebrews 7:18-19
[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Thats talking about commandments. You know, the law, the 10 commandments. Levitical law is never referred to as commandments anywhere in the bible.
Hebrews 7:11-12
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[FONT="]11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
The people didn't receive a levitical law. Only the levites received a levitical law. So law here, obviously, is talking about the 10 commandments. Each time Hebrews 7 mentions law or commandments it is talking about the 10 commandments.[/FONT]
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Romans 9 is in no way talking about a levitical law.
This is merely fantasy brewed up by Judaizers and legalists who know nothing but working at law.
You think that the levitical law was referred to as the Law of Righteousness by anyone? It makes absolutely no sense. Israel didn't work at the law of the levites. Only levites did.
Its extremely clear that Hebrews 7 and Romans 9 is talking about the 10 commandments.
Hebrews 7:18-19
[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Thats talking about commandments. You know, the law, the 10 commandments. Levitical law is never referred to as commandments anywhere in the bible.
Hebrews 7:11-12
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[FONT="]11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
The people didn't receive a levitical law. Only the levites received a levitical law. So law here, obviously, is talking about the 10 commandments. Each time Hebrews 7 mentions law or commandments it is talking about the 10 commandments.[/FONT]
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The law of sin and death IS the 10 commandments.
Romans 7:6 [FONT="]But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
[/FONT]We are dead to the law, delivered from the law, the 10 commandments, so that we could serve in Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
Sadly, no, most do not know that the law is spiritual. They still try to work at the letter of the law by their carnal will and understanding and call that "spiritual".
Romans 3:20 [FONT="]Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
[/FONT]2 Corinthians 3:10 [FONT="]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[/FONT]By the law is the knowledge of sin. The ministration of Death written on Stone.
Law of sin and death. The 10 commandments. The only ministration written on stone...
Romans 8:2 [FONT="]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.[/FONT]
Romans 7:6 [FONT="]But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
[/FONT]We are dead to the law, delivered from the law, the 10 commandments, so that we could serve in Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
Sadly, no, most do not know that the law is spiritual. They still try to work at the letter of the law by their carnal will and understanding and call that "spiritual".
Romans 3:20 [FONT="]Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
[/FONT]2 Corinthians 3:10 [FONT="]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[/FONT]By the law is the knowledge of sin. The ministration of Death written on Stone.
Law of sin and death. The 10 commandments. The only ministration written on stone...
Romans 8:2 [FONT="]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, “Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans, “6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:2, “Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” (Deut 8:3)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]7 What? Can anyone therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]13 Did that which is righteous, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through that which was righteous, so that through the commandments, sin might become utterly sinful.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "...for sin is the transgression of the Law."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, “Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans, “6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin* that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*What is sin, that we may not continue in it?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:2, “Because through Yahshua Messiah, the Law of the Spirit has set me free from the law of sin and death.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, “And you shall love [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]your Strength with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, ‘Do not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the children of your people. And you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” (Deut 8:3)[/FONT]
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