DIVORCE ---Abusive Relationship---What does the bible say ? ? ? ?

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Fenner

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#81
This man's had 20 years to change, he sounds mentally ill to me. Don't walk run, be free be happy and live in peace.
 
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twotwo

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#82
...does God allow for divorce for abuse?...
Excellent question but there is no clear answer per se. However, the answer is much clearer when you ask: Does God allow for abuse in Marriage? The answer is a big NO, NO and NO again. In consequence, if God does not allow for abuse then you are free to leave. However, this is your choice and nobody else. The description of your ex is typical of a manipulator, perverse and violent men which means that he will not change but get worse.

Kateri Tekakwitha also wondered about God will before she left her family. She used to say: Who will tell me what please God that I may do it ? Led by the Holy Spirit, she finally went away to the peril of her life and endured many trials. She never regretted her decision and was even canonized by the catholic church.

In my church, the pastor said that everybody is welcome whatever their marital status or their stories. Our church will never reject a person because he/she separated, divorced or even remarried. And you know what, even God will not reject you. Indeed, all those the Father gives me will come to me, say Jesus, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away

God loves you as well as your ex. God does not takes pleasures in the death of evil person but that they change and live. Pray for your ex. This is all you can do for him

May our almighty Father bless your new relationship!
 
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GreenNnice

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#83
Excellent question but there is no clear answer per se. However, the answer is much clearer when you ask: Does God allow for abuse in Marriage? The answer is a big NO, NO and NO again. In consequence, if God does not allow for abuse then you are free to leave. However, this is your choice and nobody else. The description of your ex is typical of a manipulator, perverse and violent men which means that he will not change but get worse.

Kateri Tekakwitha also wondered about God will before she left her family. She used to say: Who will tell me what please God that I may do it ? Led by the Holy Spirit, she finally went away to the peril of her life and endured many trials. She never regretted her decision and was even canonized by the catholic church.

In my church, the pastor said that everybody is welcome whatever their marital status or their stories. Our church will never reject a person because he/she separated, divorced or even remarried. And you know what, even God will not reject you. Indeed, all those the Father gives me will come to me, say Jesus, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away

God loves you as well as your ex. God does not takes pleasures in the death of evil person but that they change and live. Pray for your ex. This is all you can do for him

May our almighty Father bless your new relationship!
Saul was a murderer, and, he changed........ :)

Who changed him :) God.

My question to mrspickles is: HOw has your husband changed? In my opinion, your adultery should cause in Him CHANGE! He should NOT be getting all mad at you for that, He should SHOW LOVE, because he should know what he did to you of abuse all those years was MORE than compensatory for YOUR ADULTERY. Make sense? I pray so, milady. And, mrspickles, this might be hard to understand, but, if in the eyes of a counselor, your husband says that he forgives you and he is TRULY sorry he has hurt you and knows now to never hurt you again, YOU really need to pray that God is showing you back to your family :)


Also, back to Saul Paul, how long did it take for Paul to change, I mean, come to an understanding of who God truly was and to become serving Him in full force? Three days, right? In three days, after having seen God's light shining in His face, literally, Saul Paul changed inside His spirit. God CHANGED him, and, God can change mrspickles' husband. The important thing to understand is that she no longer has feelings for her husband, she has filed for divorce, which is due done in August, but, what we want do and what God wants to do, often, are TWO different things. God's way OR our way. And, yes, as many have said, IF mrspickles is meant to not be with her husband anymore then IF she goes to counseling (I say she should write a letter to her husband now, putting him in an uncomfortable position, and, not accusing him of abuse done, but asking him 'why?' ) and the Lord leads you to see your husband not really trying to fix things.

I pray this is all understood by mrspickles, most important is to trust in the Lord with all your heart, through this all, to let your husband (yes, your husband) know you still care for his well-being and are willing to give it one last try, but ONLY if he answers your letter. And THEN, without question, you take THAT letter and you go see a counselor. I would write questions down for your kids, too; I know, tough to do, but, ask them why they are siding with your husband. How will they feel if their mom and dad split up? The answer might surprise you, because they are seeing so much fighting now and just want things better the best way how and it might be with you out of the picture. But, they are kids, they will say things different, too, depending on if teenagers or elementary age.
 
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Ariel82

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#84
Also, back to Saul Paul, how long did it take for Paul to change, I mean, come to an understanding of who God truly was and to become serving Him in full force? Three days, right? In three days, after having seen God's light shining in His face, literally, Saul Paul changed inside His spirit. God CHANGED him, and, God can change mrspickles' husband.
Saul spent 3 years in the wilderness in discipleship before going out and preaching to others.

I wish you wouldn't play the "kids" factor because that would be a major reason for her to leave and STAY gone.

to stay and send the message its ok for someone who claims to love you to beat upon you, is to teach one or two things:

1. they can beat on those they think they love
2. they should allow those who claim to love them to beat upon them.

neither is a lesson i would want my kids to learn.