Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

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Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 7.5%
  • No

    Votes: 157 90.2%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 4 2.3%

  • Total voters
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Oct 16, 2013
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God has alredy judged homosexuality in Old Testament.It was the city of Sodom and Gomorah.Nothing has changed since then,the things are the same today.Full stop.
 
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MaggieMye

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I think it's an honest question made in good faith. I agree with you, the Scriptures are pretty clear, but we are to test everything, and to read deeply the Scriptures to see if what is said is true, as the Bereans did. In addition, when the world comes asking why we believe what we do about homosexual activity, it is helpful to have an answer that is slightly more expansive than "Cause the Bible."

If you do not like the thread, or if you think it is dangerous,Seriously? The Thread is not dangerous, but the near mockery of God's word IS. you are more than welcome to stop reading it. But I think it can be a helpful, and not dangerous discussion, and certainly does not mock the word of God to continue it.[/QUOTE My point is that this topic DOES NOT NEED DISCUSSION because the answer is in black and white in the Word of God. It's a no-brainer and for ANYONE calling themselves Christian to condone homosexuality for ANY reason (science has proven that none are 'born gay' BTW...it is the continued practice of deviant behavior that changes brain chemistry) is, in its own right sin. Those that condone sit on the fence, are lukewarm and will be spewed out ACCORDING TO GOD'S OWN WORD.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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God permits animals to kill, and yet He tells us not to.
God permits animals to mate with many partners, and yet He tells us not to.

Comparing animal behavior to human behavior just doesn't work.
I've got to go back and follow the post you are responding to. Amazing! Sometimes I wonder if the folks who post comments such as the one you are responding to don't do so just to lure in readers.

In other posts one person implies that science is a guide for moral behavior. Now I understand animals, the behavior of animals is being suggested as a moral compass.

You know the Bible says "The fool has said in His heart there is no God." Perhaps I can use that. I think I will. "The idiot has said in his heart the animal is our leader."
 
Oct 18, 2013
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I do respect homosexuals because they are brothers and sisters in Christ like everyone of us. The Bible verses are clear about the fact that homosexuality is a sin and I think we have to pray for these souls and feel mercy for them but I have a doubt. If really homosexuality is a sin, why God permit homosexuality between animals?
Monkey see. Monkey do. Maybe the monkeys are copying us. You ever think of that?

My dog is going to the bathroom in the backyard. Stop! My neighbor my start doing the same. I sure won't. I know better. You ever been to the zoo? It's a real circus. Monkey throw their feces. Hey, there's a behavior. Don't complain if someone throws theirs at you. It's an animal thing.
Did you hear about the poor woman, I feel so sorry for her, who got her faced . . . by a monkey? Now where does that leave you. How dare you minimize sin to the level of mere animal behavior.
This is blasphemous. JESUS DIED ON A CROSS FOR SIN. HE DID NOT SUFFER FOR MERE ANIMALISTIC BEHAVIOR.

The comments that some people make. Are you folks really Christians? UNBELIEVABLE.

Perhaps its the university that's coming out in your statements.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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That is a good question hospitalpharmacist. Unfortunately we are all born into sin and that includes every living creature.
And yes you are quite right that we must remember to pray for others.

You have a good heart :)

God bless
No Kreation it is not a good question. It's a stupid question. It is. It is a pathetic attempt at who knows what. Do you really believe animals sin? Do you believe that Jesus, our Lord and Savior, suffered and died for animalistic behavior? Do you know how terrible sin is? Do you have any clue? Apparently not. Here's one: THE CRUCIFICTION OF THE SON OF GOD. Do you see the blood? The pain? The tears? The darkness? Do you? Do you hear the mockery? Do you hear the words "Crucify Him"? Do you?

"You have a good heart." Now you read hearts? I read posts. If Peter preached the way some of you folks respond to some of the outlandish, blasphemous statements made, he never would have said: "YOU have taken and by WICKED HANDS have crucified Jesus." He would have said: "Jesus loves you. Yes he does. I can understand you not believing that He is the Messiah. We all have so many backgrounds and have come from different parts of the world. I don't want to hurt your feelings. I love Jesus. I love Him so much. God loves you all. He has forgiven you all. Isn't His love great? You all meant well. You have such good hearts. God loves you." End of sermon. Pathetic.

Thoughtless statements about the Bible end up being blasphemous. "God dying for animal behavior" Stupid.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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*walks into the topic late*

I'm sorry, but how can you guys say someone's sexual orientation is a sin? That is like saying someone's skin color is a sin. We cannot control who we are sexually attracted to just as we can't control our own skin color. Have any of you straight people ever willed yourself to become attracted to a member of the same sex? I know I haven't (I am straight too). I can't will myself to like guys no matter how hard I try. I only find girls attractive, that's just the way my brain is wired. For a gay person, their brain is wired to be sexually attracted to people of the same sex, just like we are wired to be attracted to people of the opposite sex. How is this a sin? It's like saying having blue eyes is a sin!
A person may have homosexual tendencies and that itself is not sin. I will agree with that. Okay. It is like a teenage boy. I was one at one time. The boy has a powerful, a pure natural God created to be with a female. It's the sex drive. (It's more like being taken over by a super power. You don't control, it controls you in many ways. But God put it there. Women have no idea the power or force of that drive.) The boy knows that sex outside of marriage is wrong. He wants to have sex, but doesn't. Yes, he has thoughts. He works on those thoughts. . . but never acts on them. In the same way a person may have homosexual tendencies and not act them because he or she knows it is wrong.
It comes down to what we do with the thoughts and intents. Do we act or not? Do we try to change or not?

The notion that "I was born this way" is not an excuse to act on the desire.
 
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danschance

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This is an ongoing debate that has risen into the christian community since the recent law changes. Which has resulted in a lot of divisions in the church.

My question is do you think that God views homosexuality as a sin or not and why? Are some people born homosexual thus making it completely natural and not a choice or is it an inherited sin in which we are born with like the rest of sins and essentially one has to be 'born again'?

I am really interested in people's viewpoints

I apologise if this question has been asked many times before as I am new to this forum.

Thanks for replying in advance :)
Honestly, there is not much of a debate unless you consider the bible as being less than the word of God. The bible in several places clearly states homosexuality is wrong. The problem is with society which now considers homosexuality as OK and acceptable.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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I think that, because Christians are still human, we tend to respond to homosexuals in the same manner they've started to treat us. I'm not saying that every gay person out there is an "in your face" type of person, but the general, publicized attitude of the gay/lesbian community is one of hatred towards anyone who doesn't support/agree with their lifestyle (notice I didn't say "anyone who ATTACKS" their lifestyle- a simple disagreement with it is usually all it takes to get people angry and calling you a bigot).

Do I think it's right for Christians to respond in kind? No.

We are human, imperfect, and emotional. If we are being pushed to believe something that we know isn't right, and then told that we must accept it or we're not displaying much "love" for these people, a lot of us get angry, and speak/act out in anger. Then, of course, we're just proving their point; and from there on, why would they want to listen to anything we might have to say?

No Misscris there's more to it than that. Homosexuality has never been the norm, it has never been regarded as other sins. There's something ugly, most perverted in a man kissing and have sex with another man. It is abhorring. I think a lot of times Christians are responding to the effects of homosexuality. The family is no longer Mom and Dad. It's Mom and Who knows what? The God ordained institution of marriage is now redefined. SIN IS SIN. Yes. But there's something so detestable about that perverted behavior that it turns peoples stomach. It is so contrary to what is natural. It is repelling. So I don't think it is Christians responding in kind. I think it is more in line with the type of sin it is, so contrary to that which is pure and wholesome and ordained by God.

On the other hand. Yes, we must and should want to show the love of God toward those who practice it. Many Christians in Corinth were at one time homosexuals. But someone taught them the truth. Yes, we need to do that. I am in no way advocating hate toward them.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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God has alredy judged homosexuality in Old Testament.It was the city of Sodom and Gomorah.Nothing has changed since then,the things are the same today.Full stop.
What do your ecumenical counsels and your "HOLY FATHERS" have to say about?
 
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When God created the world and man scripture speaks to us of sex and man and woman joining as one as one of the first things we are to learn about our world. Scripture talks of other things in creation later, but this came first.

To say that we have a right to change how God created the world is absolute foolishness.

It hurts me to watch such as Ellen DeGeneres and Anderson Cooper on TV. They are so wonderful as people, but they are so spiritually deformed without the least idea of their deformity it is painful to watch.
 
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lawmugochi

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In my veiw, I do not think God created man to be with man. I think these are signs of the last days and we need to pray hard for people not to be deceived by the changing times. Paul said in 1 Corinthians dat it is well for a man not to marry but if he cannot be.. then he shud have one wife or woman and I do not think man is included here
 
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This is an ongoing debate that has risen into the christian community since the recent law changes. Which has resulted in a lot of divisions in the church.

My question is do you think that God views homosexuality as a sin or not and why? Are some people born homosexual thus making it completely natural and not a choice or is it an inherited sin in which we are born with like the rest of sins and essentially one has to be 'born again'?

I am really interested in people's viewpoints

I apologise if this question has been asked many times before as I am new to this forum.
Thanks for replying in advance :)
Hello,
A person cannot help a birth defect.
People may not know how to cater for such individuals
but Christians were taught to do good and should stick to that.
The O.T. has specific prohibition and penalty for such practice.
Personally I believe we must do good as is expected of a Christ follower.

The person involved should come to Christ for forgiveness and help, calling on his name, in baptism.
The ball is then in the 'Jesus court.'
He is either an understanding helper or not.

We have have found that baptism calling on Jesus, from under the water,
gets a response from Jesus everytime.
A returning person was buried and called on the LORD himself or herself.

Consider this:

Matt.19
[9] And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication,
and shall marry another, committeth adultery:
and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
[10] His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife,then it is not good to marry.
[11] But he said unto them,
>> All men cannot << receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
[12] For there are some eunuchs, which were >> so born from their mother's womb:
and there are some eunuchs, which were >> made eunuchs of men:
and there be eunuchs, which have >> made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake.
He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

The person should go directly to Christ through baptism, calling on him from under the water.
People who do not know how to avail themselves of help from Christ, have limited human options.
Christ gave a positive promise:

John.10
[9] I am the door: by me if any man enters (?) in, >> he shall be saved <<
and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

There is no law against doing good.

1 Pet.3
[13] And who is he (the Christian) who will harm you, if you are followers of that which is good?

Keep well,




The best to you.
 
Oct 7, 2013
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Why not let God Answer! From the new King James Version 1 Cor 6:9,10:
1Cr 6:9

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,fn nor sodomites, 1Cr 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

The Footnote on homosexuals reads: catamites



The Greek word found there is 1Cr 6:10
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Why not let God Answer! From the new King James Version 1 Cor 6:9,10:
1Cr 6:9
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,fn nor sodomites, 1Cr 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
The Footnote on homosexuals reads: catamites
The Greek word found there is 1Cr 6:10:



















soft, soft to the touch

metaph. in a bad sense



effeminate



of a catamite

of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man

of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness

of a male prostitute







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i wonder why the animals are not gay hmmm and we are wiser than them
 

john832

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Why is there a debate over homosexuality?

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

reprobate:

G96
ἀδόκιμος
adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.