Doctrines like Limited Atonement - why?

[Lightskin]

If you were perfect, you wouldn't need Jesus, you would be him. But you think you can choose perfection?

Choosing to be perfect does not mean one was always perfect but rather choosing to be perfect from here on out.

 

[Lightskin]

Accredited? From where?

Two schools with accreditation. You’re becoming more elitist by the post.

 

[Dave-L]

Depends on how you mean that. I can freely walk away if I choose, though He would pursue me if I did. If you mean I cannot choose everything I desire, then no my will is not free.

Slaves of Christ cannot walk away. Only slaves of sin can.

 

[Dave-L]

To schools with accreditation. You’re becoming more elitist by the post.

A diploma mill?

 

[Bbrdrd]

Slaves of Christ cannot walk away. Only slaves of sin can.

You push a tyrant, then. Love does not compel through force, it woos and it attracts.

 

[Dave-L]

Choosing to be perfect does not mean one was always perfect but rather choosing to be perfect from here on out.

So you can choose to be perfect?

 

[Dave-L]

You push a tyrant, then. Love does not compel through force, it woos and it attracts.

Could Paul, a slave of Christ, walk away?

 

[Lightskin]

A diploma mill?

That’s subjective. Institutions where 40% of entering freshmen never graduate is hardly a diploma mill.

 

[Lightskin]

So you can choose to be perfect?

Not my words.

 

[Bbrdrd]

Could Paul, a slave of Christ, walk away?

He could have if he so desired. That's why he continually asked for prayer that he endure the race and encouraged his readers to pursue as if to win a prize.

 

[Lightskin]

Could Paul, a slave of Christ, walk away?

John 6 shows us many disciples of Jesus walked away. However by your standards, walking away probably means something else.

 

[Dave-L]

He could have if he so desired. That's why he continually asked for prayer that he endure the race and encouraged his readers to pursue as if to win a prize.

But; “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (KJV 1900)

 

[Dave-L]

John 6 shows us many disciples of Jesus walked away.

Because Jesus told them that if the Father did not draw them, they could not be his disciple.

 

[Dave-L]

Not my words.

= no free will?

 

[Bbrdrd]

But; “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (KJV 1900)

What does an out of context verse have to do with whether Paul could have walked away?

 

[Dave-L]

That’s subjective. Institutions where 40% of entering freshmen never graduate is hardly a diploma mill.

So what's the seminary?

 

[Dave-L]

What does an out of context verse have to do with whether Paul could have walked away?

It says it's impossible.

 

[Lightskin]

But; “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 3:9 (KJV 1900)

So what you’re saying is Paul was not of God.

 

[Lightskin]

So what's the seminary?

The one I attended.

 

[Bbrdrd]

It says it's impossible.

No, it doesn't. It says that sin is not of those born of God. Because it's not. And it has to be understood in the context of the whole of 1 John, which is a reproach to those who say they don't sin and to those who say that Christ gives license to sin.