Does the Holy Spirit convict the born again believer of sin?

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7seasrekeyed

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I would like to know why report to a specific moderator?

just hitting the report button would send it to whoever is available

why mention a specific moderator?
 
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There are a whole group of defilers on this site. Yet defiling doesn't seem to be ban-able?

What I mean is some people come genuinely having a point to share, and it may be a view they hold on to dearly. But then there are a list of people, who are continually allowed to trample over those people and distort what they are saying.

Defiling seems to be acceptable here, and I don't know why.

Defilers tend to be those who always have the last word, always like to be in front of conversation for all to clearly see that they are right and the other is wrong, and have a high reputation, just like celebrities have a high reputation for being outspoken, does that make them good or Godly? And I don't know whether it is a cultural thing, but most tend to be American. I like Americans but those who think 'hey I'm American, I am free to say whatever I want, I have immunity' they set an over-ruling view, which behind it pushes the meek and humble under a rock.

PeterJens for example, very meek and humble, and strong in his own views, and stands up for himself too, tries to put it lightly towards. Watch the people around him. It is people like him who attract defilers, because defilers have one goal. They don't like people to be different from their over-ruling view. And they show little love when they try to converse counter to a different view.

  1. de¦file

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    defiles (third person present) · defiled (past tense) · defiled (past participle) · defiling (present participle)
    • damage the purity or appearance of; mar or spoil:


so do you and your friends...yet we haven't reported any of you.
 

stonesoffire

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I have never, ever questioned someone's salvation...
Good to know. But rudeness and sharp words aren't necessary either when one has the truth that is spirit and life. And I've seen lots of rudeness in both works threads...for this is what this thread is really about now too.
 
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Here is a grace based view of Hebrews 10:26-27 based on the finished work of Christ. We can leave things in the hands of the Holy Spirit as He will be faithful to all of us to reveal the things of Christ to us....:)....without all the contention and strife.

Remember this:

Galatians 5:15-16 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

[SUP]16 [/SUP] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.

Have a great day everyone! We have a great salvation in our Lord Jesus Christ and we have a good, good, loving Father who loves us all dearly.



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stonesoffire

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There are a whole group of defilers on this site. Yet defiling doesn't seem to be ban-able?

What I mean is some people come genuinely having a point to share, and it may be a view they hold on to dearly. But then there are a list of people, who are continually allowed to trample over those people and distort what they are saying.

Defiling seems to be acceptable here, and I don't know why.

Defilers tend to be those who always have the last word, always like to be in front of conversation for all to clearly see that they are right and the other is wrong, and have a high reputation, just like celebrities have a high reputation for being outspoken, does that make them good or Godly? And I don't know whether it is a cultural thing, but most tend to be American. I like Americans but those who think 'hey I'm American, I am free to say whatever I want, I have immunity' they set an over-ruling view, which behind it pushes the meek and humble under a rock.

PeterJens for example, very meek and humble, and strong in his own views, and stands up for himself too, tries to put it lightly towards. Watch the people around him. It is people like him who attract defilers, because defilers have one goal. They don't like people to be different from their over-ruling view. And they show little love when they try to converse counter to a different view.

  1. de¦file

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    VERB

    defiles (third person present) · defiled (past tense) · defiled (past participle) · defiling (present participle)
    • damage the purity or appearance of; mar or spoil:
You haven't really read his posts...and I would say the same thing here...The Word is spirit and life. Is all we need.
 
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nor I

but for some reason, certain people here seem to think they have freedom to do so

I do believe that to be against the TOS and I just really appreciate the me and them mindset that generates and underscores
Yep I hear ya...
 

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To be fair it was all quite pleasant and an exchange of Scripture and beliefs was coming to pass.. we content for the Faith. And if a retreat is needed then we humble ourselves and retreat. Why do those who attack straight off the bat then urge people to leave as the victims?
 

stonesoffire

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To be fair it was all quite pleasant and an exchange of Scripture and beliefs was coming to pass.. we content for the Faith. And if a retreat is needed then we humble ourselves and retreat. Why do those who attack straight off the bat then urge people to leave as the victims?
I do agree with your post. But, not sure who is urging others to leave.

We all need to be less insecure in our selves. Anger has to be from insecurity. After all its not our truth, but His.
 
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I tried to get back to the discussion on Hebrews with the commentary c/p

even that is not actually the op LOL!
 
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Good to know. But rudeness and sharp words aren't necessary either when one has the truth that is spirit and life. And I've seen lots of rudeness in both works threads...for this is what this thread is really about now too.
And who made it that way?

The discussion of not by works was not being discussed a tall...Hebrews was....now see below in bold how EG inserted salvation and not by works into this thread....he did so to deliberately derail...
Originally Posted by Meggido


I know a passage in Hebrews that refutes the doctrine that says we do not suffer for the cause of Christ...and that is why some do not talk about Hebrews....I am not fooled one bit who is tromping what on this board....

Hebrews 5.7-10

[SUP]7 [/SUP]In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. [SUP]9 [/SUP]And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, [SUP]10 [/SUP]being designated by God as a high priest according to the order of Melchizedek.
What does suffering have to do with eternal life and repenting?

Suffering is a part of Christian growth, not a part of gaining eternal life.
 

loveme1

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I do agree with your post. But, not sure who is urging others to leave.

We all need to be less insecure in our selves. Anger has to be from insecurity. After all its not our truth, but His.
Eg was urging stones you may of missed it.

And you are correct it is GOD's Truth and we contend.

anger and insecurity is not good but it is then we draw on the Lord for Strength and calm. And that I'm sure you agree to.
 
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loveme1 said:
Could you summarise your intention? Now I like you teaching your children patience... kids when hungry do hurry on dinners..

But other than that just plainly say what you meant toward the Scripture.. but if not then no worries for whoever understands it.. can receive it.

thank you kindly.
Well, the gist of my post #502 is that Heb 10:36 tells us we need patience after having done the will of God, we might receive the promise. Patience is the ability to endure, remain steadfast. God gives us the strength to endure all of the trials of this life.

The promise which we are waiting for is the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (Heb 10:37).

Until Christ returns, the just shall live by faith (Heb 10:38-39).

Examples of those who lived by faith, saw the promises, obtained a good report through faith but did not receive the promises (Heb 11).

Our focus – the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is the Author and Finisher of faith (Heb 12).

In light of all that is written, can we stand firm and steadfast? Yes. Because the Lord Jesus Christ lives within the born again one.
 

loveme1

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I tried to get back to the discussion on Hebrews with the commentary c/p

even that is not actually the op LOL!
Threads will evolve.. it is part of discussions.. but how easy it is to not realise what the original question was..
 

stonesoffire

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And who made it that way?

The discussion of not by works was not being discussed a tall...Hebrews was....now see below in bold how EG inserted salvation and not by works into this thread....he did so to deliberately derail...


I don't see it that way Meggido. EG was trying to get the thread back on track. He's not one with guile...what you see is what you get.
 
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Threads will evolve.. it is part of discussions.. but how easy it is to not realise what the original question was..

haha

they are rife with rabbit burrows and the terriers who go after them LOL!

I deal in 'word pictures'
 

loveme1

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Well, the gist of my post #502 is that Heb 10:36 tells us we need patience after having done the will of God, we might receive the promise. Patience is the ability to endure, remain steadfast. God gives us the strength to endure all of the trials of this life.

The promise which we are waiting for is the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (Heb 10:37).

Until Christ returns, the just shall live by faith (Heb 10:38-39).

Examples of those who lived by faith, saw the promises, obtained a good report through faith but did not receive the promises (Heb 11).

Our focus – the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is the Author and Finisher of faith (Heb 12).

In light of all that is written, can we stand firm and steadfast? Yes. Because the Lord Jesus Christ lives within the born again one.

to those that obey Him he is indeed the Author of Eternal Salvation (Hebrews 5)So yes let us love and obey and stand fast in Spirit and Truth.
 
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To be fair it was all quite pleasant and an exchange of Scripture and beliefs was coming to pass.. we content for the Faith. And if a retreat is needed then we humble ourselves and retreat. Why do those who attack straight off the bat then urge people to leave as the victims?
Because they know one of them said something that crossed the line.....now watch how the behavior will change for the next few hours...

I put up with a lot and I dish out a lot....but suggesting/implying with deceit that a group of whosoever are not a children of God crossed the line....

I believe they both know it crossed the line and are now doing damage control...one even edited his original statement, which implies he at least thought about his reply before sending it....I give a lot out myself...and sometimes it is not pretty...and pretty coarse....but I have never, ever questioned someones salvation....or agreed with someone who did...
 

stonesoffire

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I felt a bit of attack myself Meggido when you posted about suffering. Is why I posted what I did.

I know you think there are lots of babes here...but in getting to really know what people believe and what they have gone through to come to this, that's just not fair.

Is why I also said to you yesterday that one cannot tell who has had a successful ministry in the past. I know you would be shocked if you knew who I am talking about.
 
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I do agree with your post. But, not sure who is urging others to leave.

We all need to be less insecure in our selves. Anger has to be from insecurity. After all its not our truth, but His.
EG urged everyone who was being attacked to leave the thread, implying once again, he and others are just the victims of the bad people who do not know truth and now according to his implication, unsaved people....


Post #535 on this thread.
This thread is being reported to Oncefallen, I suggest the people being attacked just let the ones who are attacking attack, It has gotten out of hand, Time to move on..
 

stonesoffire

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I guess onhigh will have to sort out this mess again. Poor guy.