Does the 'revelation of Jesus Christ' bring us HS understanding, as Joyce Meyer says?

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zone

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Sad thing is the hurt and confused get sucked in.....makes me wonder
if they are really seeking the Lord....if so Lord call them out in Jesus name. Amen
it's the TV!
 
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Abiding

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The promise...you will find me if you seek me with your whole heart
pushing power on was prolly not what was in mind:p
 
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Joyce Meyer wanted to pray for her congregation to undertstand the revelation of Jesus Christ that she was teaching them, recently. There is nothing wrong with that prayer is there???????? :confused: Uhhh, ummm, no. :)

And, yeah, abiding, YOU finally may be getting it, Joyce Meyers has humanity too, just like Jesus HAD humanity, 'course Jesus was that funny little different from everyone else, you know, Jesus HAD God, too. You know, fully God, fully man, equal iin both, so, yeah, funny, how this revelation that I've given you gets so miscontrued.....

God was in complete control, wddeaton, doubleUdee, to me :D , finally GOT it !! At least that's what he said, "God Himself was in control," did my green eyes (yeah, it's true, I have green eyes :D ) get that read wrong ????


And, ohzone, you yourself said that Meyers' stuff could be just her earlier stuff like Mikey liked to say, Hey, mikey liked it, so can you abide in that truth :) Joyce Meyers made some mistakes, granted, like miladylynn said, 'scratchy' voices on records, and, the 'early ministry' of Meyers. Hey, cut the gal a break, she is PREACHING about God, God is good, you know, ohzone, about stuff YOU should not judge her for, OH sure, there's doctrine, Word of Faith movement stuff you don't like but that STILL gives you no SMART right in God's eyes to JUdGE her.


So, you don't like Joyce Meyers' "God is good" and "God is Love" ministry, yippeee van skippeee, DON'T LISTEN. But, let God be the judge, milady, of who He suffers to preach and teach in the world, and, if Meyers mostly speaks to women, she says this so herself and man want to listen in, so be it!!!! The Holy Spirit is revealing His truth to them in 'this' way. I think that would be called 'revelation,' by the way :)
 
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What about Swaggart. Your thoughts Green nice. I love you by the way.
 
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wdeaton65

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I think my posts are straight foward you think meyer is a good teacher
I think she is a false teacher and a koolaid mixer is that plain enough.
Somewhere in the thread I think zone made a list put each of those guys in that same koolaid bunch.
What I find sad is how dull peoples hearing has become I think the water in the pot is about ready to cook a whole lot of frogs.
 
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Wheatie are you a redneck. I am. I want some them frog legs. Yeah meyer. I'm not sure about her. I really never cared to listen. but to each their own.
 

zone

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And, ohzone, you yourself said that Meyers' stuff could be just her earlier stuff like Mikey liked to say, Hey, mikey liked it, so can you abide in that truth :) Joyce Meyers made some mistakes, granted, like miladylynn said, 'scratchy' voices on records, and, the 'early ministry' of Meyers. Hey, cut the gal a break, she is PREACHING about God, God is good, you know, ohzone, about stuff YOU should not judge her for, OH sure, there's doctrine, Word of Faith movement stuff you don't like but that STILL gives you no SMART right in God's eyes to JUdGE her.


So, you don't like Joyce Meyers' "God is good" and "God is Love" ministry, yippeee van skippeee, DON'T LISTEN. But, let God be the judge, milady, of who He suffers to preach and teach in the world, and, if Meyers mostly speaks to women, she says this so herself and man want to listen in, so be it!!!! The Holy Spirit is revealing His truth to them in 'this' way. I think that would be called 'revelation,' by the way :)
i dont care what you think.
you are dishonoring Jesus.

repent and be forgiven.

goodbye green
 
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Zonie, don't be so judgemental. This is the world. I am glad that neither you or I am God. I'd be throwing lightning bolts like crazy. I know you would too.
 
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Zonie, don't be so judgemental. This is the world. I am glad that neither you or I am God. I'd be throwing lightning bolts like crazy. I know you would too.
Be of good cheer, didn't Jesus say, and, I have overcome the world, umm , yeah, all that stuff. The world is OUT there, but, thank God, for He is out there, too, and, He took care of ALL the worlds problems, IF only they in the world will come to Him when He draws them to Him :)
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Huh, ohzone, repent of what?? Dishonoring Jesus. LOL, YOU are the one dissing one of His chosen . Thunk asbout it :(
 
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Greenie, I'm not saying that you are the world and neither am I saying Zonie is. But I am asking you what you think about Swaggart.
 
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Greenie, I'm not saying that you are the world and neither am I saying Zonie is. But I am asking you what you think about Swaggart.
Never listened to him, earlthepearl, sorry, I was going to comment but didn't know what to say, I should have respectfully declined. Why you ask?

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No, I am not saying that ohzone is of the world either, but she sure is good at treating Christians, like Joyce Meyers, who are NOT of the world either like they are heathen unbelievers and false teachers who will go into the flame of fires in the endo. That's my read, anyway, and, I'm glad to change it IF ohzone will do something to help me thunk it all differe3nt. But, yeah, just about asinine, imho, IF we are going to JUDGE any who are on the pulpit as a pastor, especially those who reach so many like Joyce Meyers, whose ministry reaches everyone, granted, she's on tv, but she is wanting to preach to women and she says so. Men just feel the Lord's leading and listen in . Smart men :D And, yeah, that is all I'm saying about 'the world,' we are NOT to be of the world and yet ohzone likes so well to put people in the world, who are in God's hand and teaching and preaching His word from the pulpit, and, so what IF it's Word of Faith or Word of Grace or Word of Whatever, WE ARE NOT TO JUDGE. YOU are judging God when you do that , I don't want to do it, anyway.

ohzone talks about my dishonoring Jesus but I have only clung to the truth of Scripture and it's a FACT that she's getting revelation right now whether she wants to hear it or not. I don't think she's ever realized that Jesus was God , that Jesus was with HUMANITY and that Jesus was DEAD, and, God raised Him by His power. So complicated, yet, so simple, to me, anyway, and, I think, ohzone, too can understand this IF she really wants to . But, if not, fine, I don't call it 'dishonoring Jesus,' I call it being ignorant and naive and dumb to the Spirit's leading.

Jesus is the revelation of God in the flesh, NOT just the manifestation, He is Lord, He is risen (this MEANS someone rised Him, and, it was God and God is Jesus in another form, so, YOU figure it out. :) ) and, He is able to do anything He wants in this world. So what IF you don't agree with God giving a woman a leadeship role in the church, God did it, GET OVER IT ! :) Quit judging, you are being hurtful to God and, yeah, talk about dishonoring Jesus, that DOES it, milady :(
 
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GreenNice, good job. I don't mean to dishonor Zonie. I love her too. When you get a chance take a look a Swaggart. He is on tv too. Has his own network. I don't know of a preacher or church that has their own network. It takes millions a month todo that and yet somehow they are doing it. jsm.org.
 
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If I eat chocolate everyday I'm gonna get fat. And if I add just a bit of poison to the chocolate I am going to become unhealthy and possibly die. How do I say then that , well it was just chocolate? Or it was just a bit of poison ,but the overall bite was mostly chocolate so it can't be bad....if I put on white gloves and dip them in mud,the mud doesn't get glove-y! I love that quote and even though I don't always agree with the author of it,I don't find their teachings to be heretical!

Green I feel that you thought I was being unfair to lynn a few nights back and hence start a thread on the topic. I didn't bite as I felt then and still do now that YOU choose what you want to buy with your own money, I can't buy it for you. So if you back name it claim prosperity gospel good on you, but I don't and won't.

The only name I claim is that of Christ and all he has done for every one of us sinners, the worst of which that I know is me! So when I hear things from the pulpit that contradict,add to or subtract from scripture I get more than a bit alarmed. When I hear "live your best life now" or "you can be healed, you just don't wanna be" nonsense it makes me a bit more than uneasy and I don't know how you justify it. Don't pastors have a higher responsibility? If you don't know something as a pastor,you can't just make it up....and claim it to be the Holy Spirit revealing it to you. God cannot reveal something anti-scriptural, that is that. Demons jumping on Christ is anti-scriptural. And on a side note there, wasn't it the wrath of God that Jesus bore for sin? If so, would God's wrath not be worse than anything described in the JoyceM fairy tale?

If you like JoyceM Green,Lynn and whoever else that is your choice. You learn and grow from her teaching,awesome. But not everyone agrees with you and we don't have to because you feel good about her. You have all said that there is flaws here,and try to justify it with a look at the good scenario. Just a hunch that the High Priests and Pharisees also felt pretty darn good about their teachings as Christ was ushered to the cross. We have scripture to test ourselves by and we are told to do so. JoyceM and the like don't hold up to The Word.

The Machine

PS I can't find the dislike button anywhere?
 
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Joyce Meyer wanted to pray for her congregation to undertstand the revelation of Jesus Christ that she was teaching them, recently. There is nothing wrong with that prayer is there???????? :confused: Uhhh, ummm, no. :)

And, yeah, abiding, YOU finally may be getting it, Joyce Meyers has humanity too, just like Jesus HAD humanity, 'course Jesus was that funny little different from everyone else, you know, Jesus HAD God, too. You know, fully God, fully man, equal iin both, so, yeah, funny, how this revelation that I've given you gets so miscontrued.....

God was in complete control, wddeaton, doubleUdee, to me :D , finally GOT it !! At least that's what he said, "God Himself was in control," did my green eyes (yeah, it's true, I have green eyes :D ) get that read wrong ????


And, ohzone, you yourself said that Meyers' stuff could be just her earlier stuff like Mikey liked to say, Hey, mikey liked it, so can you abide in that truth :) Joyce Meyers made some mistakes, granted, like miladylynn said, 'scratchy' voices on records, and, the 'early ministry' of Meyers. Hey, cut the gal a break, she is PREACHING about God, God is good, you know, ohzone, about stuff YOU should not judge her for, OH sure, there's doctrine, Word of Faith movement stuff you don't like but that STILL gives you no SMART right in God's eyes to JUdGE her.


So, you don't like Joyce Meyers' "God is good" and "God is Love" ministry, yippeee van skippeee, DON'T LISTEN. But, let God be the judge, milady, of who He suffers to preach and teach in the world, and, if Meyers mostly speaks to women, she says this so herself and man want to listen in, so be it!!!! The Holy Spirit is revealing His truth to them in 'this' way. I think that would be called 'revelation,' by the way :)
Mark 9:40 "Anyone who is not against us is for us."

You're not dishonoring Jesus by loving him GreenNice. What do scriptures say? If you don't have love, no matter what good things you say and do, it profits you nothing. And I'm seeing a total lack of love around here, I'm afraid. That definitely doesn't please our Lord.
 
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Joyce Meyer wanted to pray for her congregation to undertstand the revelation of Jesus Christ that she was teaching them, recently. There is nothing wrong with that prayer is there???????? :confused: Uhhh, ummm, no. :)

And, yeah, abiding, YOU finally may be getting it, Joyce Meyers has humanity too, just like Jesus HAD humanity, 'course Jesus was that funny little different from everyone else, you know, Jesus HAD God, too. You know, fully God, fully man, equal iin both, so, yeah, funny, how this revelation that I've given you gets so miscontrued.....

God was in complete control, wddeaton, doubleUdee, to me :D , finally GOT it !! At least that's what he said, "God Himself was in control," did my green eyes (yeah, it's true, I have green eyes :D ) get that read wrong ????


And, ohzone, you yourself said that Meyers' stuff could be just her earlier stuff like Mikey liked to say, Hey, mikey liked it, so can you abide in that truth :) Joyce Meyers made some mistakes, granted, like miladylynn said, 'scratchy' voices on records, and, the 'early ministry' of Meyers. Hey, cut the gal a break, she is PREACHING about God, God is good, you know, ohzone, about stuff YOU should not judge her for, OH sure, there's doctrine, Word of Faith movement stuff you don't like but that STILL gives you no SMART right in God's eyes to JUdGE her.


So, you don't like Joyce Meyers' "God is good" and "God is Love" ministry, yippeee van skippeee, DON'T LISTEN. But, let God be the judge, milady, of who He suffers to preach and teach in the world, and, if Meyers mostly speaks to women, she says this so herself and man want to listen in, so be it!!!! The Holy Spirit is revealing His truth to them in 'this' way. I think that would be called 'revelation,' by the way :)

Not only does zone have the right to point out serous error in Meyers and any other person handling and representing
the gospel. she has the responsibility to do that.

If you want to keep opening threads pushing false teachers then expect judgement against them ok?
Plenty of biblical mandate for that green....we dont just let God judge...false teachers taught you that.

Green i have a full time job...i dont have to google...i studied her myself. terrible doctrine with alot of
made up stuff in her teaching.....bring it up and expect it to be knocked down. No way around it green
thats how it works.

If i was here all day i would have responded with two or three pages of serious false and dangerous error
with book name and page....i wouldnt watch youtube...i dont like heartburn
 
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Not only does zone have the right to point out serous error in Meyers and any other person handling and representing
the gospel. she has the responsibility to do that.

If you want to keep opening threads pushing false teachers then expect judgement against them ok?
Plenty of biblical mandate for that green....we dont just let God judge...false teachers taught you that.

Green i have a full time job...i dont have to google...i studied her myself. terrible doctrine with alot of
made up stuff in her teaching.....bring it up and expect it to be knocked down. No way around it green
thats how it works.

If i was here all day i would have responded with two or three pages of serious false and dangerous error
with book name and page....i wouldnt watch youtube...i dont like heartburn
NO, she does not have the right. That is what I am saying, abidingsquirrelhouse. She does NOT . You do NOT .

So why do you? I dunno ? Why do you?

God handles these things ? Yeah, He does :) YOU are in the wrong when YOU try to handle them .

Again, too, ohzone, keeps bringing up this long-ago sermon of hell that joyce meyers does not even preach anymore, so, IF she recanted, then why do you still keep bringing it up !!! Jesus doesn't bring your SINS up anymore does He, Mike ? No! He does not ?

So why are you bringing up, Joyce's :( That's wherein the problem lies and that therein is WHY I am calling ohzone OUT . She is judging those who have been appointed, annointed, presented the pulpit by God and you can say what you want but you ARE judging Joyce Meyers because of your dislike of her doctrine, which doesn't agree with you. And, that is the WRONG reason to judge someone, it is UNrighteous judgment.

Righteousness is simply become imputed the righteousness of Christ and EVERYONE who comes to know Him gets that, free and clear, PAID IN FULL . And, Joyce Meyers has that 'stamp' too , not to mentioin 'seal.' :)
 

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NO, she does not have the right. That is what I am saying, abidingsquirrelhouse. She does NOT . You do NOT .

So why do you? I dunno ? Why do you?

God handles these things ? Yeah, He does :) YOU are in the wrong when YOU try to handle them .

Again, too, ohzone, keeps bringing up this long-ago sermon of hell that joyce meyers does not even preach anymore, so, IF she recanted, then why do you still keep bringing it up !!! Jesus doesn't bring your SINS up anymore does He, Mike ? No! He does not ?

So why are you bringing up, Joyce's :( That's wherein the problem lies and that therein is WHY I am calling ohzone OUT . She is judging those who have been appointed, annointed, presented the pulpit by God and you can say what you want but you ARE judging Joyce Meyers because of your dislike of her doctrine, which doesn't agree with you. And, that is the WRONG reason to judge someone, it is UNrighteous judgment.

Righteousness is simply become imputed the righteousness of Christ and EVERYONE who comes to know Him gets that, free and clear, PAID IN FULL . And, Joyce Meyers has that 'stamp' too , not to mentioin 'seal.' :)
And you are judging that Joyce Meyer is a teacher(!) that all must embrace. And all those who oppose her for whatever reason are judgmental. See your inconsistency here? I think not.
 
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NO, she does not have the right. That is what I am saying, abidingsquirrelhouse. She does NOT . You do NOT .

So why do you? I dunno ? Why do you?

God handles these things ? Yeah, He does :) YOU are in the wrong when YOU try to handle them .

Again, too, ohzone, keeps bringing up this long-ago sermon of hell that joyce meyers does not even preach anymore, so, IF she recanted, then why do you still keep bringing it up !!! Jesus doesn't bring your SINS up anymore does He, Mike ? No! He does not ?

So why are you bringing up, Joyce's :( That's wherein the problem lies and that therein is WHY I am calling ohzone OUT . She is judging those who have been appointed, annointed, presented the pulpit by God and you can say what you want but you ARE judging Joyce Meyers because of your dislike of her doctrine, which doesn't agree with you. And, that is the WRONG reason to judge someone, it is UNrighteous judgment.

Righteousness is simply become imputed the righteousness of Christ and EVERYONE who comes to know Him gets that, free and clear, PAID IN FULL . And, Joyce Meyers has that 'stamp' too , not to mentioin 'seal.' :)
Nope your the one wrong...id provide plenty of scripture for you...but what good would that do?
You would just work all might to find a greek word with enuf latitude to refute it. Isnt that how you roll?
then youd come back and post some impossibly silly post and call it a day...no thanks

But at your request ill start a thread on her current heresies if that made you feel better.
I dont need to lie or even break a sweat. And dont say i dislike her...i dont even know her.
Im not judging her....but i will judge her doctrine. Green you dont even know the difference
between right and wrong judgement....false teachers taught you what you know about that.
Oh! surprise.

I see you havnt a clue what anointed is either.
 
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If I eat chocolate everyday I'm gonna get fat. And if I add just a bit of poison to the chocolate I am going to become unhealthy and possibly die. How do I say then that , well it was just chocolate? Or it was just a bit of poison ,but the overall bite was mostly chocolate so it can't be bad....if I put on white gloves and dip them in mud,the mud doesn't get glove-y! I love that quote and even though I don't always agree with the author of it,I don't find their teachings to be heretical!
Then quit persecuting her, quit degrading her ministry because you are not her judge, there is only One Judge and YOU are not He :) Just quit, , quite speaking ill of her, that's my best advice, and, you know what, I bet if Jesus was here right now, He would give you the same advice. Well, whaddya know, He IS here right now, He dwells in us. What DOES Jesus preach more than anything else: Love ! Maybe a refresher on 1 Cor. 13 would be good for you machinee :)
"Let Me handle the work of mine who are out there preaching to millions, not you, I know what I am doing, you do not."

That's right, buddy, the Lord leads and you BIT and I've bit back, and, I won't stop biting until the Lord tells me not to, YOU are the one judging Joyce Meyers in a heavy way in your thread. Maybe, get on there and recant your misguided, misunderstood anal of her and, just maybe, I'll stop my thread here. Like i said, the Lord leads, YOU follow Him, not me. :) (John 21:22)
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Green I feel that you thought I was being unfair to lynn a few nights back and hence start a thread on the topic. I didn't bite as I felt then and still do now that YOU choose what you want to buy with your own money, I can't buy it for you. So if you back name it claim prosperity gospel good on you, but I don't and won't.

The only name I claim is that of Christ and all he has done for every one of us sinners, the worst of which that I know is me! So when I hear things from the pulpit that contradict,add to or subtract from scripture I get more than a bit alarmed. When I hear "live your best life now" or "you can be healed, you just don't wanna be" nonsense it makes me a bit more than uneasy and I don't know how you justify it. Don't pastors have a higher responsibility? If you don't know something as a pastor,you can't just make it up....and claim it to be the Holy Spirit revealing it to you. God cannot reveal something anti-scriptural, that is that. Demons jumping on Christ is anti-scriptural. And on a side note there, wasn't it the wrath of God that Jesus bore for sin? If so, would God's wrath not be worse than anything described in the JoyceM fairy tale?

If you like JoyceM Green,Lynn and whoever else that is your choice. You learn and grow from her teaching,awesome. But not everyone agrees with you and we don't have to because you feel good about her. You have all said that there is flaws here,and try to justify it with a look at the good scenario. Just a hunch that the High Priests and Pharisees also felt pretty darn good about their teachings as Christ was ushered to the cross. We have scripture to test ourselves by and we are told to do so. JoyceM and the like don't hold up to The Word.

The Machine

P.S. Jesus wants you to LOVE, you really NEED a 'love' button machine, it would do your body good :) (green speaking)
Anyway, I'm not on your thread but I will be IF I go over there and see bashing of JM . Tired of it. Don't do it ! God is her judge, NOT you, and, she is teaching and preaching with Holy Spirit leading her, you can disagree if you WANT but to deny that she has the Holy Spriit in her would be a grave mistake, a travesty to God, and, of course, a travesty to Joyce :(