By whose stripes we are healed. How can you be healed if his stripes do not apply to me? You are not making any sense. If it is all us, and none of Christ, then it defeats the purpose why Christ went to the cross.
That is you saying, "if it is all us, and none of Christ."
I never said anything remotely close to that. You are just like many others who respond with rhetoric and ignore the substance Jason.
The purpose that Jesus went to the cross was to...
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1. Redeem us from all iniquity.
2. Purify us that we be zealous of righteousness.
Thus we are "made the righteousness of God in Him"...
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
2Co 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
...via working together with God whereby we WALK according to the Spirit...
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
In light of the above, which I have stated many times, how can you possibly conclude I am saying, "it is all us, and none of Christ" ?????
How can you honestly conclude in your mind that I am saying, "it is all us, and none of Christ."
I think you are being dishonest to conclude that because I clearly state that God leads and we follow. I clearly state that is the Spirit of life IN Jesus Christ by which we operate. There is no "all us and none of Christ" in ANYTHING I have written. Stop misrepresenting me Jason. I know others constantly misrepresent me but for you who claim to be in favour of serving righteousness? You doing it? It is surprising.
The purpose that Jesus went to the cross was this...
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Heb 9:18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
Yet you do not seem to care about what the Bible says in Hebrews. You ignore it and somehow twist my premise in your mind to be "all of us and none of Christ." You then respond to this fictional premise instead of actually addressing what I actually wrote. That does not seem like a very honest thing to do.
Where a testament is there must also be the death of the testator. Jesus gave Himself as a sin offering for the redemption of transgressions which were under the Old Testament by instituting the New Covenant. The blood of Christ is sprinkled on the offering cleansing it once and for all. We present ourselves to God upon the Mercy Seat and the blood of Christ is sprinkled upon us cleansing us of our past transgressions once and for all.
The sin offering of Jesus Christ has NOTHING to do with a substitution of any sort. Not a single supporter of the various substitutional views can provide any Biblical texts which substantiate anything close to any "sin debt being paid" or Jesus "swapping places with the sinner." People merely grab hold of isolated verses and heap rhetoric upon them. They ignore the Book of Hebrews which clearly refutes any notion of substitution.
You didn't get your substitutional view from the Bible Jason, you were taught it by men. You ought to dig into the history of it and let the chips fall where they may. If substitution is truth then scripture will not contradict it.