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oh....ya.
well, it's all part of the falling away, isn't it.
and it all traces back to the LEAVEN.
hey! i think i'll make a thread about it.
rabbi naylor is a good place to start.
this stuff isn't new by any means.
but we know where it's heading. goodbye......check Heb 6 before you go.
Why I Am No Longer A Christian
Gary sent a letter to a beloved family member explaining why he could not be a Christian anymore. This letter is a very good way to introduce you to the Remnant Bride truth, as it lays out the problem of what has been taking place in the kingdom of God for 2,000 years, as well as introduces the solution. We hope its expression of love and its insight will be helpful to you in your pursuit of truth and life, as well as encourage you to read more here at The Remnant Bride.
Dear family member,
Please allow me the opportunity to explain why I can no longer be any part of Christianity or be called a Christian. Even though I have for many years been faithful in Christianity, it is my devotion to Him whom I now call by His Hebrew name, Yahshua, that dictates this important and seemingly unusual change.
Why I Am No Longer A Christian < click
well, it's all part of the falling away, isn't it.
and it all traces back to the LEAVEN.
hey! i think i'll make a thread about it.
rabbi naylor is a good place to start.
this stuff isn't new by any means.
but we know where it's heading. goodbye......check Heb 6 before you go.
Why I Am No Longer A Christian
Gary sent a letter to a beloved family member explaining why he could not be a Christian anymore. This letter is a very good way to introduce you to the Remnant Bride truth, as it lays out the problem of what has been taking place in the kingdom of God for 2,000 years, as well as introduces the solution. We hope its expression of love and its insight will be helpful to you in your pursuit of truth and life, as well as encourage you to read more here at The Remnant Bride.
Dear family member,
Please allow me the opportunity to explain why I can no longer be any part of Christianity or be called a Christian. Even though I have for many years been faithful in Christianity, it is my devotion to Him whom I now call by His Hebrew name, Yahshua, that dictates this important and seemingly unusual change.
Why I Am No Longer A Christian < click
J
John 18
18 When he had finished praying, Jesus left with his disciples and crossed the Kidron Valley. On the other side there was a garden, and he and his disciples went into it.
2 Now Judas, who betrayed him, knew the place, because Jesus had often met there with his disciples. 3 So Judas came to the garden, guiding a detachment of soldiers and some officials from the chief priests and the Pharisees. They were carrying torches, lanterns and weapons.
4 Jesus, knowing all that was going to happen to him, went out and asked them, “Who is it you want?”
5 “Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied.
“I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.) 6 When Jesus said, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.
7 Again he asked them, “Who is it you want?”
“Jesus of Nazareth,” they said.
8 Jesus answered, “I told you that I am he. If you are looking for me, then let these men go.” 9 This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.”[a]
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)
11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”
12 Then the detachment of soldiers with its commander and the Jewish officials arrested Jesus. They bound him 13 and brought him first to Annas, who was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, the high priest that year. 14 Caiaphas was the one who had advised the Jewish leaders that it would be good if one man died for the people.
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Peter had a sword according to verse 10.
Does anyone believe that Jesus didn't know he had it? The One who can clearly see into the hearts and minds of men?
Does anyone believe that Peter would not have thrown it away if Jesus had told him to either before or after the incident?
Did Jesus condemn Peter for having it or tell him to throw it away, or did He simply tell him to put it away?
As some have said, I hope as few as possible know what it feels like to have to take a life to protect many others. Being at the threshold of having to use deadly force is one of the most dreadful of things. Even those of us who have been called to protect others in this way stand willing to use ANY other option available. There are times when God has given us other options and times when He has not. I am so thankful for His Word and the incidents recorded therein regarding lives being taken that others might remain safe and pure.
18 When he had finished praying, Jesus left with his disciples and crossed the Kidron Valley. On the other side there was a garden, and he and his disciples went into it.
2 Now Judas, who betrayed him, knew the place, because Jesus had often met there with his disciples. 3 So Judas came to the garden, guiding a detachment of soldiers and some officials from the chief priests and the Pharisees. They were carrying torches, lanterns and weapons.
4 Jesus, knowing all that was going to happen to him, went out and asked them, “Who is it you want?”
5 “Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied.
“I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.) 6 When Jesus said, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.
7 Again he asked them, “Who is it you want?”
“Jesus of Nazareth,” they said.
8 Jesus answered, “I told you that I am he. If you are looking for me, then let these men go.” 9 This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.”[a]
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)
11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”
12 Then the detachment of soldiers with its commander and the Jewish officials arrested Jesus. They bound him 13 and brought him first to Annas, who was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, the high priest that year. 14 Caiaphas was the one who had advised the Jewish leaders that it would be good if one man died for the people.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Peter had a sword according to verse 10.
Does anyone believe that Jesus didn't know he had it? The One who can clearly see into the hearts and minds of men?
Does anyone believe that Peter would not have thrown it away if Jesus had told him to either before or after the incident?
Did Jesus condemn Peter for having it or tell him to throw it away, or did He simply tell him to put it away?
As some have said, I hope as few as possible know what it feels like to have to take a life to protect many others. Being at the threshold of having to use deadly force is one of the most dreadful of things. Even those of us who have been called to protect others in this way stand willing to use ANY other option available. There are times when God has given us other options and times when He has not. I am so thankful for His Word and the incidents recorded therein regarding lives being taken that others might remain safe and pure.
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Dear Fellow New Yorker,
Today, Governor Cuomo signed the NY SAFE (Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement) Act – groundbreaking legislation that will put in place the toughest gun laws in the nation to better protect our residents from senseless gun violence, while respecting the rights of legal gun owners and sportsmen.
The NY SAFE Act includes provisions to:
Ban the sale of assault weapons;
Require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe a patient is likely to engage in behavior that is dangerous to themselves or others;
Make New York the first state in the nation to ban any magazine that can hold more than seven rounds and run instant background checks on all ammunition purchases at the time of sale;
Track ammunition sales in real time to alert law enforcement to high volume purchases;
Create a statewide standard requiring recertification of pistol permits every five years;
Ensure that private sales of guns are subject to a background check; and,
Toughen criminal penalties on those who use illegal guns including measures to help combat gang violence.
Click here to learn more about the legislation.
Governor Signs Groundbreaking NY SAFE Act -- click
hmmmm...
Here's How the Obama Administration Defended DEA Agents Who Put a Gun to a Little Girl's Head
Mike Riggs|Jun. 19, 2012 1:04 pm
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last week that the DEA’s use of force against the 11-year-old and 14-year-old daughters of Thomas and Rosalie Avina--which included putting a gun to the youngest girl's head--was “excessive,” “unreasonable,” and constituted “intentional infliction of emotional distress.”
Attorneys for the Obama administration defended the raid, and Reason has obtained the brief the DOJ filed to the Ninth Circuit. In it, the Obama administration argues that “the DEA agents’ conduct was plainly reasonable under the circumstances.”
reason.com
Today, Governor Cuomo signed the NY SAFE (Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement) Act – groundbreaking legislation that will put in place the toughest gun laws in the nation to better protect our residents from senseless gun violence, while respecting the rights of legal gun owners and sportsmen.
The NY SAFE Act includes provisions to:
Ban the sale of assault weapons;
Require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe a patient is likely to engage in behavior that is dangerous to themselves or others;
Make New York the first state in the nation to ban any magazine that can hold more than seven rounds and run instant background checks on all ammunition purchases at the time of sale;
Track ammunition sales in real time to alert law enforcement to high volume purchases;
Create a statewide standard requiring recertification of pistol permits every five years;
Ensure that private sales of guns are subject to a background check; and,
Toughen criminal penalties on those who use illegal guns including measures to help combat gang violence.
Click here to learn more about the legislation.
Governor Signs Groundbreaking NY SAFE Act -- click
hmmmm...
Here's How the Obama Administration Defended DEA Agents Who Put a Gun to a Little Girl's Head
Mike Riggs|Jun. 19, 2012 1:04 pm
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last week that the DEA’s use of force against the 11-year-old and 14-year-old daughters of Thomas and Rosalie Avina--which included putting a gun to the youngest girl's head--was “excessive,” “unreasonable,” and constituted “intentional infliction of emotional distress.”
Attorneys for the Obama administration defended the raid, and Reason has obtained the brief the DOJ filed to the Ninth Circuit. In it, the Obama administration argues that “the DEA agents’ conduct was plainly reasonable under the circumstances.”
reason.com
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IOG you are very right in this. I pray that you do not allow anyone on here to discourage you or make you doubt that God is our defender in all things. We are not to defend ourselves, though I know many would argue that we should defend the lives of our family but this is based on human emotion and reasoning rather than the word of God and faith in Him.
The verses make it clear what we are supposed to be about, saving souls, not lives. Why try to defend the life of your family when you know, if you are obeying the word and keeping in step with the spirit, they are in the Lord and would soon rest at the feet of Christ!? Why kill someone who is obviously not in the Lord when you could seize that opportunity and possible be used to bring them along? How is someone not going to see hypocrisy in that as Christians we are supposed to be about the things unseen when by our actions we show nothing but concern for this life! Get on one side or the other! We can not be focused on this life but rather on His kingdom and the life to come. We must preach the true word of God so that we might speed His coming and save some. We must do this without favoritism, with a Love that only comes from Him. Let Him be in control! Trust in Him or live completely to your fleshly nature. You cannot serve two masters, either the spirit of man or the Spirit of Christ. The time is coming when, if we are not on guard and living by the Spirit, we will fall into the great deception and believe we are serving the true God when really it is a counterfeit. We must all be asking God to reveal these things to us so that we may discern the spirits. Wake Up!
IOG, again, thank you for posting this, it was a great encouragement to me to see someone proclaiming this truth, knowing that not many would agree with it
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The verses make it clear what we are supposed to be about, saving souls, not lives. Why try to defend the life of your family when you know, if you are obeying the word and keeping in step with the spirit, they are in the Lord and would soon rest at the feet of Christ!? Why kill someone who is obviously not in the Lord when you could seize that opportunity and possible be used to bring them along? How is someone not going to see hypocrisy in that as Christians we are supposed to be about the things unseen when by our actions we show nothing but concern for this life! Get on one side or the other! We can not be focused on this life but rather on His kingdom and the life to come. We must preach the true word of God so that we might speed His coming and save some. We must do this without favoritism, with a Love that only comes from Him. Let Him be in control! Trust in Him or live completely to your fleshly nature. You cannot serve two masters, either the spirit of man or the Spirit of Christ. The time is coming when, if we are not on guard and living by the Spirit, we will fall into the great deception and believe we are serving the true God when really it is a counterfeit. We must all be asking God to reveal these things to us so that we may discern the spirits. Wake Up!
IOG, again, thank you for posting this, it was a great encouragement to me to see someone proclaiming this truth, knowing that not many would agree with it
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C
Preamble to the U.S. Declaration of Independence, 1776
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
All human rights are come from our Creator (God). Gun ownership falls under our God given right; the pursuit of happiness. Although I am not a gun owner, it is my God given right to own one if I so choose.
Liberty, a God given right foreign to people of most nations, and rapidly disappearing in the US, requires protection from tyranny. Without the right of a free people to possess the wherewithal (fire arms) to protect the right to liberty, protection from tyranny is not possible.
As for the right to live, the tyranny of the US Supreme Court has removed it for 1.2 million each year in the abortion industry.
My heart goes out to all who live under tyranny, and have never experienced true liberty.
May God Bless All With Liberty
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
All human rights are come from our Creator (God). Gun ownership falls under our God given right; the pursuit of happiness. Although I am not a gun owner, it is my God given right to own one if I so choose.
Liberty, a God given right foreign to people of most nations, and rapidly disappearing in the US, requires protection from tyranny. Without the right of a free people to possess the wherewithal (fire arms) to protect the right to liberty, protection from tyranny is not possible.
As for the right to live, the tyranny of the US Supreme Court has removed it for 1.2 million each year in the abortion industry.
My heart goes out to all who live under tyranny, and have never experienced true liberty.
May God Bless All With Liberty
F
I would carry a gun with me.
Not for assault, but for defense. I mean, if we think about all those children who were shot, what if one of the teachers had had a gun? Couldn't they have at least saved some of those lives by shooting to wound or in the head, if need be?
I'd use a gun for justice. And only that.
Not for assault, but for defense. I mean, if we think about all those children who were shot, what if one of the teachers had had a gun? Couldn't they have at least saved some of those lives by shooting to wound or in the head, if need be?
I'd use a gun for justice. And only that.
All human rights are come from our Creator (God). Gun ownership falls under our God given right; the right to life is a God given right
and ownership of any implement or device
designed solely for the purpose of destroying that
life is in direct contravention of the God
given human right to life.
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Why does it have to be God or guns? Why can't we use both? We can have faith in God and still use our guns to protect ourselves. The real issue is of choice whether I choose to use or gun or not is my business until I intentionally hurt someone. Gun control will only get innocent people killed. Guns are not the issue the issue is the people using the guns. WE people need to pay more attention to the children in the schools who are bullied and abuse instead of turning the other way. I believe if we give children a good foundation; we can help stop school shootings and other mishaps. Childhood is the foundation of how a person turns out (for the most part).
Can this be done with a gun in your hip or pointed in your face
Mark 12:29-30,32-33 (KJV)
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is , Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: [30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [32] And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: [33] And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:29-30,32-33 (KJV)
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is , Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: [30] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [32] And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: [33] And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.