Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

[graceNpeace]

And the consequences of sin - death - also reigned from that time!

Paul makes it clear that sin was judged apart form the Law (Torah) as well as within the law (Torah).
"12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel."

This passage makes it VERY clear that sin was judged apart from the Law (Torah).

Gen 3:22-23 explains why: "22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken."

The reason Adam and his wife were banished from the garden is also explained: "lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”". Since, "23 For the wages of sin is death," Rom 6:23, obviously Adam and his wife needed to banished before they could partake of the Tree of Life.

Also, the law (Torah) was not added to make sin sin, but to make sin exceedingly sinful: "13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful."

Sin, and the punishment for sin - that is death, preceded the Torah.

 

[Ariel82]

You are mistaken.

I don't believe Jesus nailed God's laws to the cross.


I believe that Jesus nailed the Old Covenant established upon mount Sinai to the cross with ALL ITS LAWS, which is the ten commandments and the Levitical priesthood and the yearly festivals.....all a shadow, a tutor to lead people to Jesus.

I believe Jesus taught the Law of the Spirit on the Sermon of the Mount and through other teachings revealed the spiritual truths behind the shadows that the old covenant was hinting at.

Where I believe you and others cross the line is when you and others condem people who worship God based upon a day.....that is wrong and sinful and hypocrital because Jesus teaches us to worship God every day.

Jesus wants a people to always SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD and not to worry about food or clothes but trust that God will provide if we SEEK to always do His will and not our own.

That is the spiritual purpose of the Sabbath. Why is it so hard for you to see this truth?

 

[garee]

Sin existed, but the law didn't; not until Moses.

The Spirit of faith in respect to the faith of God as a law of faith existed before it was written . The law that states if any man has not the faith of Christ they do not belong to God was working with Abel from the moment he first believed Him not seen. If Abel did not have the faith of Christ he simply did not belong to God .

Faith is a work that provides the grace needed to have all of our sins atoned for. Romans remind us what if some did not believe (exercise or work out faith ). would it make the faith of God, as the work of God that he works in us no effect ? To effect something is to work .

Will we take away the work of God and attribute it to the imagination of our own hard hearts.?

Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The question I would ask... Did Abel have the faith of Christ ,the Holy Spirit of God ? Or as some say it was not available until Acts 2?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

The question I would ask... Did Abel have the faith of Christ ,the Holy Spirit of God ? Or as some say it was not available until Acts 2?

All godly men throughout history had the faith of Christ and the holy spirit.

Cast me not away from thy presence; and remove not thy holy Spirit from me. Psalms 51:11​

 

[Nehemiah6]

I believe that Jesus nailed the Old Covenant established upon mount Sinai to the cross with ALL ITS LAWS, which is the ten commandments and the Levitical priesthood and the yearly festivals.....all a shadow, a tutor to lead people to Jesus.

Since the Old Covenant includes the Ten Commandments, and the Ten Commandments are permanent and eternal, it is INCORRECT to state that the Old Covenant and ALL ITS LAWS were nailed to the Cross. The New Covenant includes the Ten Commandments, so what was nailed to the Cross?

1. The just condemnation of every sinner based upon the Ten Commandments.

2. The laws pertaining to the Tabernacle and Temple, the Levitical Priesthood, the sacrifices and offerings, the Feasts and Festivals, holy days, new moons, and sabbaths. All of these were *shadows* but the reality is Christ Himself. Also included were the ceremonial and dietary laws of Israel.

3. Having said that, the 4th commandment pertains to the sabbath, and the sabbath is related to man's work week. Thus for the Christian, the Lord's Day becomes the sabbath, in that it is set aside for rest, for worship, and for good works. It is very clear from the NT that Christians were meeting ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK to satisfy the demands of the sabbath.

4. While in principle every day is a day of worship and thanksgiving, we cannot simply dismiss the principle of the sabbath, which is embedded in the Creation Week. Scripture specifically says that "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

5. At the same time, believers who trust EXCLUSIVELY in the merits of Christ and His finished work of redemption enter into God's "eternal sabbath rest". This is a resting of the spirit and a resting in Christ, but it does not do away with a specific day of rest and worship.

 

[graceNpeace]

Since the Old Covenant includes the Ten Commandments, and the Ten Commandments are permanent and eternal, it is INCORRECT to state that the Old Covenant and ALL ITS LAWS were nailed to the Cross. The New Covenant includes the Ten Commandments, so what was nailed to the Cross?

1. The just condemnation of every sinner based upon the Ten Commandments.

2. The laws pertaining to the Tabernacle and Temple, the Levitical Priesthood, the sacrifices and offerings, the Feasts and Festivals, holy days, new moons, and sabbaths. All of these were *shadows* but the reality is Christ Himself. Also included were the ceremonial and dietary laws of Israel.

3. Having said that, the 4th commandment pertains to the sabbath, and the sabbath is related to man's work week. Thus for the Christian, the Lord's Day becomes the sabbath, in that it is set aside for rest, for worship, and for good works. It is very clear from the NT that Christians were meeting ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK to satisfy the demands of the sabbath.

4. While in principle every day is a day of worship and thanksgiving, we cannot simply dismiss the principle of the sabbath, which is embedded in the Creation Week. Scripture specifically says that "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

5. At the same time, believers who trust EXCLUSIVELY in the merits of Christ and His finished work of redemption enter into God's "eternal sabbath rest". This is a resting of the spirit and a resting in Christ, but it does not do away with a specific day of rest and worship.

I need to ask - are you a Sabbatarian then?

 

[Didymous]

Not really Dan,

Different greek word are used for the sabbath rest sabbatismos that God's people enter into (Hebrews 4:9) and no mention of the Sabbath in Matthew 11:28.

Although Matt 11:28 is related to God's Sabbath because no one enters into God's rest unless they BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD.

I know this would be posted that is why I posted about REST in POST # 11 linked which talks about God's REST and those that have it and those that do not.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

So then, please explain how Jesus broke the Sabbath commandant, and yet fulfilled the law? If not keeping the Sabbath is a sin, why wasn't it a sin for Jesus?

 

[Gabriel2020]

If your Mother got sick on the Sabbath and needed a doctor, would you not take her. or would you let her suffer and die. which is better? The sabbath is still the sabbath and will always be. It is the only holy day of the week.,because God blessed it and made it holy. If it was storming and the roof of your house caved in on you, would you fix it, or wait until the next day? which is better to do?

 

[Magenta]

So then, please explain how Jesus broke the Sabbath commandant, and yet fulfilled the law? If not keeping the Sabbath is a sin, why wasn't it a sin for Jesus?

It is not a sin to work on the Sabbath.
Those who say it is are false teachers.

 

[Didymous]

It is not a sin to work on the Sabbath.
Those who say it is are false teachers.

I never said I agreed with this, just asked some problem questions for such a stance.

 

[Gabriel2020]

People that dont, have no regard for it anyway. The lost souls for sure. We need not look at the world keeping the sabbath, but all believers that are in the kingdom of God. It is a sin to some believers, and not a sin to others.

 

[Magenta]

I never said I agreed with this, just asked some problem questions for such a stance.

I understand, and am agreeing with you

To say it is a sin to work on the Sabbath accuses Jesus of sinning, just as the Pharisees did.

 

[Didymous]

Awesome! We agree, and that's nice. I love the color of your name.

 

[Pythons]

Hebrews 10,25
"And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: NOT FORSAKEING THE ASSEMBLING OF OURSELVES TOGETHER, as the manner of SOME IS...."

"Christians" would assemble THEMSELVES together on the 1st day of the week...
...Scripture and History and Sacred Tradition attest to that very clearly.
...As the following demonstrate.

John 20, 19

Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you
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John 20, 26​

[SUB][/SUB]

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.​

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Acts 2, 1
And when the day of Pentecost was come they were all with one accord IN ONE PLACE.

Acts 20,7"And upon the first day of the week when the disciples came together TO BREAK BREAD, Paul preached unto them..."

1 Cor 16, 1-2
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store.....THAT THERE BE NO GATHERING WHEN I COME.


True, the Apostles continued [ for a time ] to go to the "Synagogue" to share the Gospel of Christ...
...BUT, exactly as Christ said would happen - the Christians would be THROWN OUT of the Synagogues.
...After THAT happened Christians CEASED the Synagogue and just "gather themselves" together.
....On the 1st day of the week!

Important to note that any group advocating Christians must keep the Gregorian Saturday as a Sabbath...
...ALSO REJECT the Doctrine of the Trinity and also reject the Doctrine of Hell.
...Unfortunately they generally also teach the Father is a flesh God of hominid shape.

 

[Didymous]

And the writings of Ellen G. white? Are they not considered equal to the Bible? Except, perhaps, by the Battle Creek SDAs.

 

[Pythons]

And the writings of Ellen G. white? Are they not considered equal to the Bible? Except, perhaps, by the Battle Creek SDAs.

Ellen White asserted that Christ "was an archangel".
...Also asserted that Lucifer "was an archangel".
...& that The Father was a flesh God with a rectum.

That last one is difficult to even repeat.

Ellen & the other early SDA's called this teaching: "The Personality of God".

 

[LoveGodForever]

So then, please explain how Jesus broke the Sabbath commandant, and yet fulfilled the law? If not keeping the Sabbath is a sin, why wasn't it a sin for Jesus?

I understand, and am agreeing with you
To say it is a sin to work on the Sabbath accuses Jesus of sinning, just as the Pharisees did.

Hello Didymous and my purple friend,

Happy to share God's Word with you.

In the days of Jesus the religeous teachers of the day had placed so many man made tradtions around Sabbath keeping that it had become a buden to the people. It was though in their eyes MANKIND was made for the Sabbath. It was so bad in fact that these religious teachers were constantly looking for ways to accuse Jesus of breaking the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-2; 10; Mark 3:2'; Luke 6:1-2).

Jesus rebuked these religious teachers by saying that the Sabbath was made for MAN and NOT MAN for the SABBATH (Mark 2:27 and that he was the CREATOR or LORD of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28) and it was LAWFUL to do GOOD on the SABBATH (Matt 12:12)

Jesus did God's WORK on the Sabbath and so should we everyday but God's WORK is not the work we are commanded NOT to do on God's Sabbath for it is lawful to do GOOD on the Sabbath.

Have you not read what David did, when he was hungry, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them who were with him, but only for the priests?

Or have you not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? How much then is a man better than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

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WHAT WORK ARE WE COMMANDED NOT TO DO ON THE SABBATH?

GOD'S 4TH COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20
8, Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

Doing GOD'S WORK is NOT what the 4th Commandment is talking about please read it.

God's 4th Commandments says we are NOT to do OUR OWN WORK. Yep NO secular bussiness or paid work, no uneccesary domestic work, no buying and selling, shopping. This can be done on the other days of the week. God has made the SEVENTH DAY a HOLY DAY and we are to REST in HIM by FAITH in the LORD of the SABBATH. This is the 4th Commandment and one of the God's 10.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodForever]

It is not a sin to work on the Sabbath.
Those who say it is are false teachers.

Hello my purple friend,

It looks like God's WORD disagrees with you, unless you want to call JESUS, PAUL, JAMES AND JOHN all false teachers?

WHAT IS SIN?

James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW


James is pretty clear if we brake ANY of God's Law (10 commandments) then we are a TRANSGRESSOR of God's LAW

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1 John 3
4 Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN is the transgression of the law.
John is in agreement with James and states that if we TRANSGRESS God's LAW then we commit SIN because SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW. So it is very clear that SIN is breaking ANY of God's LAW (10 commandments)
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Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known SIN, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Well here we have Paul in agreement with James and John also telling us that SIN is breaking God's commandments and uses the 10th commandment as an example of breaking any of God's LAW (10 commandments) = SIN (Exodus 20:17)

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ROMANS 3 [19], Now we know that whatsoever things the law says, it says to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. [20], Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Once again Paul is in agreement with John and James which all agree together that if we break ANY of God's commandments we commit SIN.

God's Word is in disagreement with you my friend.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodForever]

Law of Sin and death = covenant on Mount Sinai (10 commandments WRITTEN ON STONE and all the ceremonial laws and the feasts, animal sacrifice..worship in Tabernacle then temple Solomon built), children of Hagar, Jerusalem of when Jesus was born. Covenant abolished Destroyed when the second temple was demolished in 70 AD. Hades and death will be cast in fire (revelation 20)

Ariel, God's LAW gives a knowledge of sin and the wages of sin is death (Romans 3:20; 6:23).

The law of sin and death spoken of in Romans 7 is the carnal man or sinful human nature before walking in the Spirit not the 10 Commandments.

ROMANS 7
[6], But now we are delivered from the law, being dead to that in which we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
[7], What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, you shall not covet.
[8], But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, worked in me all manner of covetousness. For without the law sin was dead. <Romnas 3:20 God's LAw gives a knowledge of sin>
[9], For I was alive apart from the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[10], And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[11], For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
[12], Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
[13], Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
[14], For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
[15], For that which I do I know not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
[16], If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[17], Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[18], For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwells no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[19], For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
[20], Now if I do that which I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[21], I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
[22], For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
[23], But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Law of the Spirit = New covenant: faith in Jesus atonement for sins and salvation, sealing of the Holy spirit, becoming a priest and Ambassodor for Christ, keeping your body as a holy temple for God, joining the Body of Christ to do good works for God's glory (you may also include: sermon on the Mount, keeping last supper in remembrance, baptism as New Covenant signs but not as the means of salvation), children of the Promised Seed, Christ Jesus.

Yes in summary it is BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING ALL of God's WORD ONLY BY FAITH which works by LOVE. ONLY LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE his WORD. Of ourselves we can do nothing but SIN because of the law of SIN and DEATH that lives in us. ABIDING in him by FAITH that LOVES we FOLLOW him who calls us and is why JESUS says if you LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE.

 

[LoveGodForever]

God's law existed since Adam and Eve..,,the old covenant law which included weekly Sabbaths and animal sacrifices, and feasts....those were added on Mount Sinai.

Your statement contradicts itself. The Sabbath was made at creation (Genesis 2:1-3) for mankind by the CREATOR of the Sabbath (Mark 2:27-28) BEFORE the FALL of mankind and the introduction of God's plan of salvation.

The Shadow laws and ordinaces for remission of sin (sin offerings; animal sacrifices; levitical priesthood and sanctuary services) where shadows pointing to Jesus and God's plan to save mankind from SIN given AFTER the FALL of mankind.

Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it.

God's eternal law? Love God with all your heart, mind and soul and love others....those are the eternal laws.

AMEN and as Jeses says; On these two great commandmetns of LOVE hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets (Matt 22:36-40)

The law of weekly Sabbaths and yearly Sabbaths and the Year of Jubilee....all added because mankind sinned and would whether seek their pleasure instead of God's will,

How can God's 4th Commandment or weekly Sabbath be added because of SIN when it was made for MANKIND BEFORE SIN entered into the WORLD? (Genesis 2:1-3). Seems God's WORD disagrees with you.

Folks still do it today when they teach people they need to be under the Old Covenant on Mount Sinai instead of the New Covenant.,.whose laws Jesus preached on His sermon on the mount (matthew 5-7)

Yet no one is telling you to be UNDER the OLD COVENANT as we are UNDER THE NEW. It is your understanding of what the OLD COVENANT is that is the problem and your refusal to examine God's WORD that is shared to help you.

ONLY God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW all of God's WORD not just the parts that agree with us.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,&lt;when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come&gt; calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).