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Born twice?, how can one be born twice, unless water is broken twice?
Acts 8:36-38 (KJV) [SUP]36 [/SUP] And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? [SUP]37 [/SUP] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. [SUP]38 [/SUP] And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Was this the Eunuch's mothers water breaking?
Acts 8:36-38 (KJV) [SUP]36 [/SUP] And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? [SUP]37 [/SUP] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. [SUP]38 [/SUP] And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Was this the Eunuch's mothers water breaking?
Baptism will not do you any good unless you first hear the gospel to obey it, you cannot obey or believe what you do not know.
If you have come from the Catholic church, more than likely you did not have a bible in your pew, they only tell you or supply you with what they want you to know, a gospel other than Christ's that is polluted with man made doctrine such as catechism etc...
Use your bible to guide you, these verses are a good place to start:
Hear the Gospel
John. 20:30-31; Rom. 10:17
Believe
Rom. 1:16; Acts 18:8; Heb. 11:6
Repent
Lk. 13:3; 24:47; Acts 3:19; 17:30
Confess Faith in Christ
Rom. 10:9-10; Acts 8:37
Be Baptized
Mat. 28:19; Mk. 16:16; Acts 2:38; 10:47-48;
22:16; Rom. 6:1-6; Gal. 3:27; Col. 2:12;
1Pet. 3:21
Be Faithful Unto and Until Death
Mat. 25:21, 34; 2Pet. 1:1-11; Rev. 2:10;
1 John 1:6-9
If you have come from the Catholic church, more than likely you did not have a bible in your pew, they only tell you or supply you with what they want you to know, a gospel other than Christ's that is polluted with man made doctrine such as catechism etc...
Use your bible to guide you, these verses are a good place to start:
Hear the Gospel
John. 20:30-31; Rom. 10:17
Believe
Rom. 1:16; Acts 18:8; Heb. 11:6
Repent
Lk. 13:3; 24:47; Acts 3:19; 17:30
Confess Faith in Christ
Rom. 10:9-10; Acts 8:37
Be Baptized
Mat. 28:19; Mk. 16:16; Acts 2:38; 10:47-48;
22:16; Rom. 6:1-6; Gal. 3:27; Col. 2:12;
1Pet. 3:21
Be Faithful Unto and Until Death
Mat. 25:21, 34; 2Pet. 1:1-11; Rev. 2:10;
1 John 1:6-9
I will just jump in with a comment, I have been baptised by the HOly Spirit. At the time I did not know I had been. It was not until about 7 years ago that I found out I had been. Had a senimar over weekend on Gifts of Holy SPirit and Baptism of. Cut a long story short at end I stood up and went out for prayer to receive, as I believed I had not been.
Nothing happened though, I went to sit down everything went pitch black and I could not see, then I was given an image of an event that happened in my teenage years, one I forgot about, it was my baptism of Holy SPirit, it was like this electrical charge a great energy rushing over my body, like standing under waterfall.
I became very sad and angry that no one had told me about such things and when I mentioned about what I felt no one knew what it was, so I went through 25 years of not knowing.
FIre ministry is something which should be avoided. It is almost certain from demonic spirits. Todd Bently is main source of this false spirit being spread, ministers come to his meetings, get the fire called down on them, they then take it back to thier own churches, where they pass it on, people react like those reacting to Kundalindi spirit.
Steer Clear of all these fire ministries and churches which put people on spiritual fire.
Nothing happened though, I went to sit down everything went pitch black and I could not see, then I was given an image of an event that happened in my teenage years, one I forgot about, it was my baptism of Holy SPirit, it was like this electrical charge a great energy rushing over my body, like standing under waterfall.
I became very sad and angry that no one had told me about such things and when I mentioned about what I felt no one knew what it was, so I went through 25 years of not knowing.
FIre ministry is something which should be avoided. It is almost certain from demonic spirits. Todd Bently is main source of this false spirit being spread, ministers come to his meetings, get the fire called down on them, they then take it back to thier own churches, where they pass it on, people react like those reacting to Kundalindi spirit.
Steer Clear of all these fire ministries and churches which put people on spiritual fire.
1 Corinthians 2:14-16
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
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I see the problem. My wife was Catholic when we were married and when I got saved a year or so later and went to a bible church she came along. She got saved and later we both were water baptized by immersion. We did not get water baptized to be saved but to be obedient in preparation to serve the Lord. Acts 8 where Philip witnesses to the eunuch and follows with water baptism is probably the clearest passage on the subject in the NT.
If you are saved and a Christian before you are water baptized then you are still a Christian afterwards. If you are a pretender before you will remain a pretender afterward. Many here who rely on water baptism for salvation are pretenders. The bible calls them tares and not wheat or goats and not sheep. They are not saved before water baptism and most certainly not saved afterward.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
If you are saved and a Christian before you are water baptized then you are still a Christian afterwards. If you are a pretender before you will remain a pretender afterward. Many here who rely on water baptism for salvation are pretenders. The bible calls them tares and not wheat or goats and not sheep. They are not saved before water baptism and most certainly not saved afterward.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Always with the negative comments. Those who call upon the Lord to save them God baptizes with the Holy Spirit unto salvation. God does not wait until a more convenient time when God can fit it into His busy schedule but acts in great love and urgency to save a soul the instant that soul calls out to Christ for salvation.
Why do you always portray God as capricious and not merciful and gracious? You have a very low perception of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Why do you always portray God as capricious and not merciful and gracious? You have a very low perception of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Nothing negative but meant to show the fallaciousness of the idea that people today need to be baptized with the Holy Spirit to be saved. Being baptized with the Holy Spirit is out of my control, is not a command I can obey so if I am not baptized with the HS and lost, cannot be my fault of culpability for what was out of my control.
NO verse says one can call out to God and God in turn will baptize that person with the HS.
Read it again natural man,
but you still won't understand it lol........
1 Corinthians 2:14-16
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, becausethey are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
You are a natural man who will die in your sins unless you repent and are born again by the Spirit of God like me 
Your denial of God is very telling btw. God don't come to live in those who deny Him.......
Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
John 3:3-8
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (not dunked later) and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Your denial of God is very telling btw. God don't come to live in those who deny Him.......
Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
John 3:3-8
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (not dunked later) and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.