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Being baptized with holy Spirit = receiving the gift of holy Spirit = being born again of the Spirit
If you have not been born again of the Spirit; i.e. baptized with holy Spirit - You can not say that Jesus is Lord. Wherefore I give you to understand that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord but by the holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 12:3
If you have not been born again of the Spirit, i.e. baptized with holy Spirit - you have NOTHING to lead and guide you unto all truth. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13
Jesus Christ baptizes with holy Spirit - given to us upon his resurrection to enable us to learn truth which in turn enables us to walk by the Spirit.
If you have not been born again of the Spirit; i.e. baptized with holy Spirit - You can not say that Jesus is Lord. Wherefore I give you to understand that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord but by the holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 12:3
If you have not been born again of the Spirit, i.e. baptized with holy Spirit - you have NOTHING to lead and guide you unto all truth. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13
Jesus Christ baptizes with holy Spirit - given to us upon his resurrection to enable us to learn truth which in turn enables us to walk by the Spirit.
Disciples were commissioned to "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them"
Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
He did not say "Go ye therefore, teaching all nations I will baptize them"...
John the baptizer said ONLY Jesus can baptize with the Holy Spirit (and with fire):
Matthew 3:11 (KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
So Jesus ONLY can baptize with the "Holy Spirit", yet Jesus told "disciples" to "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them" (Matt 28:19)
This is how sins are remitted, water baptism :
Acts 22:16 (KJV) And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Your way has sinners in a saved position.
Matthew 28:19 (KJV) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
He did not say "Go ye therefore, teaching all nations I will baptize them"...
John the baptizer said ONLY Jesus can baptize with the Holy Spirit (and with fire):
Matthew 3:11 (KJV) I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
So Jesus ONLY can baptize with the "Holy Spirit", yet Jesus told "disciples" to "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them" (Matt 28:19)
This is how sins are remitted, water baptism :
Acts 22:16 (KJV) And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Your way has sinners in a saved position.
Well, I am very new here -- searching for some answers and have some questions. One was on baptism, but this got so deep I am not quite sure I understand! I was baptized as a baby in the Catholic church and raised as a Catholic. Once I had my children, we found a non-denominational Christian church. My husband and I are new to this church (and new learning a LOT about all of this) - and the pastor at our church said that part of their belief and vision is that baptism is a COMPLETE immersion in water - and that if we have been baptized as babies or not been completely submerged in water, we really need to be baptized again. My husband was not raised Catholic and didn't attend church with me until recently (2 months ago) when we found this new Christian church in our area. We love the church, pastor and people and have become very involved -- but I am wondering if I need to be baptized again or not? We have both received Jesus as our Savior -- but we are unsure what we need to be doing regarding baptism. Ive heard different theories -- that its NOT required to be saved and go to heaven -- that it is required. Some say its simply a ritual and some say it is not. Can anyone help here?
YES ..Repented..Baptized..( full immersion in water ) and God filled me with the Holy Ghost with the Bible evidence of speaking in tongues..( spiritual prayer ) the ONLY way...acts 2 v 4 (same now as then) acts 2 v 38.. mark 16 v16 + ( believers identified )..etc....Immediately given overwhelming peace and joy...healed from smoking, dinking, drugs (no withdrawals no self trying..instant gone..) migraines ( suffered all my life )...my father from cancer etc etc....
church uses the gifts as in corinth..etc..
to do otherwise is to do it your own way..whatever religion...people of Jesus time also (supposedly) followed God..so far off the track..he showed them what happens when you get it right with God..( miraculous ) (just as today)...
warned his disciples in mark 16 v 16 on....he came to believers ( there own ways ) they crucified him ..people can call themselves Christians ( just because they are aware he is..thats only a first step) they can call themselves Napoleon Bonaparte for that matter..!!..nope Jesus will give ALL the spiritual signs as mark 16..they cant get them unless he gives them ..spiritual birth certificate....
church uses the gifts as in corinth..etc..
to do otherwise is to do it your own way..whatever religion...people of Jesus time also (supposedly) followed God..so far off the track..he showed them what happens when you get it right with God..( miraculous ) (just as today)...
warned his disciples in mark 16 v 16 on....he came to believers ( there own ways ) they crucified him ..people can call themselves Christians ( just because they are aware he is..thats only a first step) they can call themselves Napoleon Bonaparte for that matter..!!..nope Jesus will give ALL the spiritual signs as mark 16..they cant get them unless he gives them ..spiritual birth certificate....
Exactly. There is one baptism in effect in this present dispensation and it's Christ baptism of the great commission that does last till the end of the world, Mt 28:19,20. Too many [on this forum] in their zeal to find a way to get around the necessity of Christ's water baptism of the great commission create two or more baptisms
Yes, the apostles had power to lay their hands upon another person and pass on a miraculous gift but no man has the power to baptize with the HS, only God can do that as in Acts 2 and 10. Baptism with the Holy Spirit does not involve the hands of man.
The promise of Acts 2:38 is the promise made to Abraham Gal 3:26-29, all those who become Christian when they repent and baptized become an heir according to that promise.
The promise of Acts 2:38 is the promise made to Abraham Gal 3:26-29, all those who become Christian when they repent and baptized become an heir according to that promise.
Being born again is water baptism.
Jn 3:5-----------spirit++++++++++water>>>>>>>>>>in the kingdom
1Cor 12:13-----spirit++++++++++baptized>>>>>>>>in the body
The bible makes it clear water of Jn 3:5 is a reference to water baptism.
If baptism of the Holy Spirit is the one baptism of Eph 3:4 then what happened to Christ's human/disciple administered water baptism of Mt 28:19,20 that lasts unto the end of the world?
Jn 3:5-----------spirit++++++++++water>>>>>>>>>>in the kingdom
1Cor 12:13-----spirit++++++++++baptized>>>>>>>>in the body
The bible makes it clear water of Jn 3:5 is a reference to water baptism.
If baptism of the Holy Spirit is the one baptism of Eph 3:4 then what happened to Christ's human/disciple administered water baptism of Mt 28:19,20 that lasts unto the end of the world?
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Okay, this is the preferred result of being born-again,
but it is NOT necessary for eventually receiving eternal life!
This baptism with the Holy Spirit is an ANOINTING done by Jesus,
usually for some special ministry or spiritual task, just for example:
the incredibly important ministry of being a faithful intercessor,
whereby the Lord tells the person exactly what to pray for!
but it is NOT necessary for eventually receiving eternal life!
This baptism with the Holy Spirit is an ANOINTING done by Jesus,
usually for some special ministry or spiritual task, just for example:
the incredibly important ministry of being a faithful intercessor,
whereby the Lord tells the person exactly what to pray for!
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The baptism Paul speaks of is not water baptism. When Paul wrote to the Ephesian believers about "one baptism," he was reminding them that, regardless of their background or nationality, they all served the same Lord, shared the same faith, and had experienced the same baptism, Spirit baptism. All believers have been placed into the Body of Christ through the Spirit’s power.
By reminding the church that they all had a similar testimony and that they were all partakers in the same Holy Spirit, Paul encouraged them to work together for the cause of Christ so that the message of redemption would continue to spread throughout the world.
By reminding the church that they all had a similar testimony and that they were all partakers in the same Holy Spirit, Paul encouraged them to work together for the cause of Christ so that the message of redemption would continue to spread throughout the world.
Cornelius was baptized with the Holy Spirit, Peter knew there was only "one baptism", he had seen with his own eyes the baptism of Cornelius by the Lord with the Holy Spirit, :
Acts 10:45 (KJV)
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Yet Peter commands Cornelius to be baptized by water v47:
Acts 10:47 (KJV)
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Did Peter sin telling them to be baptized again with another baptism? is there not only one baptism Eph. 4:5 :
Ephesians 4:5 (KJV)
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Peter commanded them to be baptized with water, because water baptism is what saves, it is what washes away sins, Cornelius or anyone else was not saved by Holy Spirit baptism.
Acts 22:16 (KJV) And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Acts 10:45 (KJV)
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Yet Peter commands Cornelius to be baptized by water v47:
Acts 10:47 (KJV)
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Did Peter sin telling them to be baptized again with another baptism? is there not only one baptism Eph. 4:5 :
Ephesians 4:5 (KJV)
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Peter commanded them to be baptized with water, because water baptism is what saves, it is what washes away sins, Cornelius or anyone else was not saved by Holy Spirit baptism.
Acts 22:16 (KJV) And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
The bible is its own best commentary:
Jn 3:5-----------spirit++++++++++water>>>>>>>>>>in the kingdom
1Cor 12:13-----spirit++++++++++baptized>>>>>>>>in the body
The bible makes it clear water of Jn 3:5 is a reference to water baptism.
I will listen to the bible before I will listen to those with a bias against the bible's teaching of the necessity of water baptism.