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Magenta

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Sure He does. Every day they/we are allowed to live is an act of mercy by God.
He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. :)
 
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shebamo

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Hey Ricky,

I tend to go along with your views here but I have a question about ..what happened after the resurrection?..what did Jesus mean when He said " All authority has been given to ME both in heaven and in earth?"...how does this affect the "authority..or rule" of satan in your view?

Also 1 John 5:19 doesn't have the word "power or authority " in the versie..it simply says .."it lies in wickness ( porneia ) " ( which of course the enemy is evil for sure....and I wonder if that could be the result of "sin" being in the world from the fall....either way they are both related in my view)

But the Eph 2:2 actually does say.." according to the ruler of the authority of the air "

How does one jive what the Lord said and the present so-called rule of satan?......

Thanks...
" All authority is given to me in heaven and in earth " God the Father sees everything in the light of Jesus death and resurrection then and now, from time eternal. Jesus has the power, all power and it is in his blood. He operates through His Holy Spirit on earth now. God is still in control, ( it is a trinity ) satan is defeated in the spiritual realm, and for Christians " greater is he that is in me -- ". Our battle at this point is spiritual. The world is still ruled by satan. Just take a look around us. But all of mankind still have free will to receive Christ or not. Satan means things for harm, God can turn it to good. Satan can only do what God allows. He knows his days are numbered. God knows who will be save and who won't. Satan has no power over the believer. He may use one of his tools to discourage us ie. persecution, poverty; and who does he use to carry that out? The children of disobedience. ( Ephesians 2 ) We are to stand fast because regardless of what is happening in the physical realm, Jesus has still got control and when the times of the gentiles are fulfilled-----come Lord Jesus come. Then it is going to get real physical. We can not question the mind of the Creator. Why do you allow satan to do this and that? That fact that satan is allowed to operate goes with why did God even bother creating all this if only a few will enter into Gods presence? He is God and He is just and it will all be revealed in the end. The battle is already won in the spiritual but we still have the heaven and earth will pass away and a new heaven and earth to come. Jesus was there from the start and all things where created by him etc. John 1. He has a purpose that is not our to fully know yet. 1 Corinthians 13:12King James Version (KJV)[SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 

CS1

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And you should really stop quoting scripture, because like I said earlier, I don't believe in it, and if you keep trying to force feed it, I just become less and less responsive to what you are saying.
Hi Jchavez ,
I think you are a little rude :) and also somewhat disrespectful to those who you asked questions to. The reason why they are providing you scriptures is because Christians world view is formed from the bible. That is why we use scriptures. Surely you must understand that when you come to a Christian Site that our Answers are going too have biblical or be biblical in nature? it is not those here who are trying to make you responsive BUT Responding to your POST. So Please with a cherry on top ...... Be cool
 

Oncefallen

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The Healer knelt down beside the dead mother and started stroking the body. As His hand passed over the wounds, they healed up, leaving no marks. The deer then started breathing and rose. The disciples were upset at this and asked Him why he was wasting His energy on the animals. The Pale One said, “There cannot be too many good deeds. Such is the manner of compassion. A lost lamb is my Fat
I was curious as to the origins of all of the content of the above posts. I didn't have to dig far to figure out that the source is just as heretical as the teachings of Joseph Smith (Mormons) that claim that Christ visited the Americas.

The origins are from Katheryn E. May who claims to have direct revelation from Sandana (the supposed spirit name of Jesus) and this "revelation" teaches the following heresies.


1) That Christ was created

2) That God does not ever punish anyone (in other words Hell does not exist)

3) Reincarnation

4) Christ did not die on the cross, he merely had an "out of body experience" until he resuscitated later

5) Christ did not ascend into heaven after leaving the disciples, but traveled to France and Tibet (among other places) along with his wife (Mary Magdelene) and children.

6) Christ died a natural death at 86

Just too much to keep on listing


 
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RickyZ

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Still greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
God is in control. Don't doubt that
Hey Ricky,

I tend to go along with your views here but I have a question about ..what happened after the resurrection?..what did Jesus mean when He said " All authority has been given to ME both in heaven and in earth?"...how does this affect the "authority..or rule" of satan in your view?

Also 1 John 5:19 doesn't have the word "power or authority " in the versie..it simply says .."it lies in wickness ( porneia ) " ( which of course the enemy is evil for sure....and I wonder if that could be the result of "sin" being in the world from the fall....either way they are both related in my view)

But the Eph 2:2 actually does say.." according to the ruler of the authority of the air "

How does one jive what the Lord said and the present so-called rule of satan?......

Thanks...
Just to paint the whole picture let's go back to the very beginning. The thing about God's sovereign will is that He generally chooses not to enforce it. God created creation, and He was in charge of it. God created man, and yielded His sovereignty to put man in charge of it. His deal with Adam was, I'll walk with you, talk with you, lend you an ear and give you advice, but what you say Adam, that’s what goes. You, Adam, are the authority. So Adam then gives that away to satan. God could have in His sovereign power taken it all back, but then that would put Him back in charge, and that was never His intent, His will. His intent/will was for man to have authority. So to restore what He intended/willed meant a man had to take authority back from satan. But who among us could do such a thing? Well, only God, coming to us as a man. So the Messiah comes and indeed takes back authority. But, He has yet to return to this world to enforce it. That's where our partnership comes in. It is our charge that we participate with Him in the enforcement of His authority over the yet-to-be restored creation. And we do that thru prayer and partnering in the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

Maybe a simpler way to look at it is to compare it to a Sheriff and his deputies. The Sheriff is the one who holds authority, but he doesn't actually go out and patrol the streets. His deputies are the ones who go out and enforce the Sheriff's authority. Christ is the Sheriff, it's His authority. But until He returns to lay claim to the land, we are to be His deputies enforcing His will in a land run by criminals.

So while satan in general rules this world, we have Christ's authority to supersede that in the places and things we come in contact with. Because, like Roger said, greater is He that is within us than he that is running the world.
 

ForthAngel

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Just to paint the whole picture let's go back to the very beginning. The thing about God's sovereign will is that He generally chooses not to enforce it. God created creation, and He was in charge of it. God created man, and yielded His sovereignty to put man in charge of it. His deal with Adam was, I'll walk with you, talk with you, lend you an ear and give you advice, but what you say Adam, that’s what goes. You, Adam, are the authority. So Adam then gives that away to satan. God could have in His sovereign power taken it all back, but then that would put Him back in charge, and that was never His intent, His will. His intent/will was for man to have authority. So to restore what He intended/willed meant a man had to take authority back from satan. But who among us could do such a thing? Well, only God, coming to us as a man. So the Messiah comes and indeed takes back authority. But, He has yet to return to this world to enforce it. That's where our partnership comes in. It is our charge that we participate with Him in the enforcement of His authority over the yet-to-be restored creation. And we do that thru prayer and partnering in the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

Maybe a simpler way to look at it is to compare it to a Sheriff and his deputies. The Sheriff is the one who holds authority, but he doesn't actually go out and patrol the streets. His deputies are the ones who go out and enforce the Sheriff's authority. Christ is the Sheriff, it's His authority. But until He returns to lay claim to the land, we are to be His deputies enforcing His will in a land run by criminals.

So while satan in general rules this world, we have Christ's authority to supersede that in the places and things we come in contact with. Because, like Roger said, greater is He that is within us than he that is running the world.
God has always been in charge and always will be. Man is not sovereign and satan is a dog on a leash.
 
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Children do not go to hell. The Bible says there is an age of understanding and accountability. A child that dies goes into the arms of the Lord.
Where does the Bible say there is an age of accountability?
 

ForthAngel

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Where does the Bible say there is an age of accountability?
There is a basis for it, although I can't remember the passage. It's in one of the books of Moses. I don't think it was implying accountability the way it's being used on this forum though. I will try and look it up.
 
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Thanks..that's the way I looked at it too....:)


Just to paint the whole picture let's go back to the very beginning. The thing about God's sovereign will is that He generally chooses not to enforce it. God created creation, and He was in charge of it. God created man, and yielded His sovereignty to put man in charge of it. His deal with Adam was, I'll walk with you, talk with you, lend you an ear and give you advice, but what you say Adam, that’s what goes. You, Adam, are the authority. So Adam then gives that away to satan. God could have in His sovereign power taken it all back, but then that would put Him back in charge, and that was never His intent, His will. His intent/will was for man to have authority. So to restore what He intended/willed meant a man had to take authority back from satan. But who among us could do such a thing? Well, only God, coming to us as a man. So the Messiah comes and indeed takes back authority. But, He has yet to return to this world to enforce it. That's where our partnership comes in. It is our charge that we participate with Him in the enforcement of His authority over the yet-to-be restored creation. And we do that thru prayer and partnering in the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

Maybe a simpler way to look at it is to compare it to a Sheriff and his deputies. The Sheriff is the one who holds authority, but he doesn't actually go out and patrol the streets. His deputies are the ones who go out and enforce the Sheriff's authority. Christ is the Sheriff, it's His authority. But until He returns to lay claim to the land, we are to be His deputies enforcing His will in a land run by criminals.

So while satan in general rules this world, we have Christ's authority to supersede that in the places and things we come in contact with. Because, like Roger said, greater is He that is within us than he that is running the world.
 
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There is a basis for it, although I can't remember the passage. It's in one of the books of Moses. I don't think it was implying accountability the way it's being used on this forum though. I will try and look it up.
Thank you.
 

ForthAngel

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I actually made a note of it in my bible a couple years ago with the question "Age of accountability?" So apparently I took it to mean the same as some here do. Now I am unsure though after reading the text. I'd have to reread the events leading up to this and what happened after to be sure.

Numbers 14
29 Your carcases shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, which have murmured against me.

Another is in Numbers 32:

11 Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me

I'm not sure these are cases for accountability to God in the way it's being presented here on this thread though.
 

CS1

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we tried to reach him NotmebutHim but he maybe back :) Keep him in prayer :)
 

Magenta

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Txroads

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Thirty two posts. Well, that is not a record, but good bye OP. May you sincerely seek, and God richly bless you :) Brother Don was banned also.
Banned?.... You can get banned?.... Ok..... I'll behave
 

Magenta

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Banned?.... You can get banned?.... Ok..... I'll behave
Haha, yes, atheists don't seem to last long, and those who identify as Christians with "out there" beliefs do not fare well, either. Brother Don espoused Mormon beliefs, I think... talking about Jesus having visited aboriginal North Americans... you can certainly talk about them (heresies), as long as you do not identify too strongly with them (unless you are Catholic, since there are some who manage quite well despite the founders of this site making no bones about Catholicism being heretical). For instance, it is safe for me to mention that Mormons believe God inhabits the planet KOLOB. But if I were to insist it was true? Sayonara, CC! :) And yes, please behave :D
 
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sydlit

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Haha, yes, atheists don't seem to last long, and those who identify as Christians with "out there" beliefs do not fare well, either. Brother Don espoused Mormon beliefs, I think... talking about Jesus having visited aboriginal North Americans... you can certainly talk about them (heresies), as long as you do not identify too strongly with them (unless you are Catholic, since there are some who manage quite well despite the founders of this site making no bones about Catholicism being heretical). For instance, it is safe for me to mention that Mormons believe God inhabits the planet KOLOB. But if I were to insist it was true? Sayonara, CC! :) And yes, please behave :D
You're no fun anymore. :p
 
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Txroads

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Haha, yes, atheists don't seem to last long, and those who identify as Christians with "out there" beliefs do not fare well, either. Brother Don espoused Mormon beliefs, I think... talking about Jesus having visited aboriginal North Americans... you can certainly talk about them (heresies), as long as you do not identify too strongly with them (unless you are Catholic, since there are some who manage quite well despite the founders of this site making no bones about Catholicism being heretical). For instance, it is safe for me to mention that Mormons believe God inhabits the planet KOLOB. But if I were to insist it was true? Sayonara, CC! :) And yes, please behave :D
Ok to the first...... Try on the second.... No promises on the third....
 
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Tintin

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This was a response to the girl, because she said that natives and African's were punished with slavery for their beliefs in evil entities. I believe all races and religions have beauty to them, also their shortcomings.
You quoted me, not Kaycie though. So you can see why I thought you were trolling. Oh, and wait for it... it seems you were.