Nah, I'm not about bashing anyone really... I do however, like to be informed about who i watch & what they preach... I tend to sift out the garbage and keep the good as the Holy Spirit leads me. If, however I see preaching that does not acknowledge Jesus as Lord and Savior and the existence of a place called HELL then I tend to reject that preacher. I enjoyed Joyce because she spoke to my history... this definitely did not mean i agreed with everything she preached and eventually felt lead by the Holy Spirit to stop partaking in her program when it became more about her books and less about the flock. I think its important when someone brings an issue about our belief to task that we look at it and seriously reflect. I used to be a only NIV reader... when my brotherinlaw brought to me concerns about this translation I noticed that the differences were HUGE in some situations... ie Jesus' instruction on how to pray... My first instict was one of pride, to defend my NIV but instead i pressed on and looked into it and SAW the truth. I still read my NIV because I truly do like this translation but defer to KJV to clarify. We need to be open to receive the truth in love. Its easy to give the truth in love but not so easy to receive it as good ole pride gets in the way... Anyhow, I liked that website not just because of the Joel portion. There is alot to it and its good to read and reflect. I also happen to think that these public preachers are under intense scrutiny and every single word or lack of the right word can easily be twisted for whatever purpose... Boy I would sure hate to live life like that, If i did though, i'd wanna make sure I got it ABSOLUTELY right on KEY points like Jesus being the only way... thats a BIGGIE!!! If anyone asked little ole me uneducated in the clergy if a muslim could go to heaven I would answer only if he'd received Jesus as lord and savior, repented of his sin and been born again. pretty basic stuff if u ask me.
I hold these truths to be self evident....
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I mostly agree with everything you've said imoss.
Like sinner said, when you listen to Joel, he is on point. I haven't really read or listened to anything on Joel Osteen regarding prosperity. However, everything I have heard him preached on TV are purely biblical. I have some concerns about him when I washed his interview with Larry king where he had a great opportunity to profess the name of Jesus Christ and he backed down. I understand that he is human and bound to make mistakes. So I will not hold this against him but it was really a huge surprise to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwYU2pmWYQ
Like sinner said, when you listen to Joel, he is on point. I haven't really read or listened to anything on Joel Osteen regarding prosperity. However, everything I have heard him preached on TV are purely biblical. I have some concerns about him when I washed his interview with Larry king where he had a great opportunity to profess the name of Jesus Christ and he backed down. I understand that he is human and bound to make mistakes. So I will not hold this against him but it was really a huge surprise to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwYU2pmWYQ
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What you are trying to get at people is saying whether or not man kind is either good or bad. If a man saves another persons life, and then 20 years later commits a horrible crime, was it a horrible monster that saved the persons life 20 years ago.
If you have salvation and turn away from it you have lost it. You had it, but you lost it. How do you know BaptistW that you aren't really a false prophet who in 10 years will turn away...does this mean all the time and effort you have put into your life now will be erased and you can honestly say that you never had Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?
If you have salvation and turn away from it you have lost it. You had it, but you lost it. How do you know BaptistW that you aren't really a false prophet who in 10 years will turn away...does this mean all the time and effort you have put into your life now will be erased and you can honestly say that you never had Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?
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Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.Romans 8:30
Whoever God justifies, He will ultimately glorify, which makes it impossible to fall away. If you have salvation and turn away from it, you never had to to begin with as I have said. It would be a false profession in the first place.
Whoever God justifies, He will ultimately glorify, which makes it impossible to fall away. If you have salvation and turn away from it, you never had to to begin with as I have said. It would be a false profession in the first place.
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1. I know that I would go to heaven
2. Because I continually ask Jesus to forgive me of my sins that I commit, and I do my best to be a child of God, because after I asked Jesus to forgive me and come into my heart I didn't leave it at that. I continued to run the race, I led some to Christ and led none away with false beliefs. Thats what I would say.
2. Because I continually ask Jesus to forgive me of my sins that I commit, and I do my best to be a child of God, because after I asked Jesus to forgive me and come into my heart I didn't leave it at that. I continued to run the race, I led some to Christ and led none away with false beliefs. Thats what I would say.
what do you do with these verses friend? Eph 4:30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the DAY OF REDEMPTION.
Re 3:7And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and NO MAN shutteth; and shutteth, and NO MAN openeth;
your salvation is sealed by God no man including yourself can't open what God has sealed , but this is not a license to sin we are free from sin not to sin.Ro 6:6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.Ro 6:7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Re 3:7And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and NO MAN shutteth; and shutteth, and NO MAN openeth;
your salvation is sealed by God no man including yourself can't open what God has sealed , but this is not a license to sin we are free from sin not to sin.Ro 6:6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.Ro 6:7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
sinner i hate to break this to you but if you were saved and you managed to walk away from it then you can't get saved anymore , it is a one shot deal
with remission for your sin was given when you were young and you were able to undo that then there is no more offering for you
Heb 10:18Now where remission of these is, there is NO MORE OFFERING for sin.
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Sinner, I asked you these hypothetical questions to see two things.
1. How do you believe one is saved?
2. On what do believe one's salvation is based on?
Since I forgot to include "why" from the first question, you did not really answer it all but from your answer to the second question, I can see that you believe that your salvation one is save through works + belief. I do not doubt that you are very passionate and want to serve God truthfully, but you've been erred.
Your salvation is based solely on your believing in Jesus Christ as your Lord. Nothing more and nothing less.
I have another question for you based on your second answer. You said "I do my best to be a child of God," my question to you is, how much of your "best" is good enough to secure your seat in heaven and how do you know when you have attained it?
1. How do you believe one is saved?
2. On what do believe one's salvation is based on?
Since I forgot to include "why" from the first question, you did not really answer it all but from your answer to the second question, I can see that you believe that your salvation one is save through works + belief. I do not doubt that you are very passionate and want to serve God truthfully, but you've been erred.
Your salvation is based solely on your believing in Jesus Christ as your Lord. Nothing more and nothing less.
I have another question for you based on your second answer. You said "I do my best to be a child of God," my question to you is, how much of your "best" is good enough to secure your seat in heaven and how do you know when you have attained it?
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Wow dude, you just told me that I am not saved, you have judged me, thats ok. I know I am. When I have my hands lifted high and sing praises to Jesus and I am feeling the Holy Spirit embrace me and tears of joy are streaming and dancing, the overwhelming joy I feel can only come from my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Speaking in tounges andpeople running up and down our isles, these are some of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but you only get them if you invite him.
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There is only one way to heaven and that is through Jesus Christ.
Salvation is based only on the works of Jesus on the cross, and your faith and acceptance of that fact, I have never said that it is based on my works, go back through the post and see. People have twisted my words.
For instance to consider fornication "works" is just not true. Its sin and there wil not be a hint of it any of us if we are to be in the kingdom of God,
Salvation is based only on the works of Jesus on the cross, and your faith and acceptance of that fact, I have never said that it is based on my works, go back through the post and see. People have twisted my words.
For instance to consider fornication "works" is just not true. Its sin and there wil not be a hint of it any of us if we are to be in the kingdom of God,
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