I refuse to discount one scripture's truth to accept another.

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Then maybe you could tell us what Jeremiah’s Strange Commission was?
 

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I searched the site for anything that would explain how to become a Christian and found nothing. They use the word Christian freely enough. There is an article about what happens after we die but it is based on Ecclesiastes.

The group may have had a sort of face lift when they divested themselves from the Armstrong's . . . it gives the appearance of a works-based salvation.
british israelism is a false doctrine. fake jews, fake news.
 

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Yeah, I think until I can find harmony in all the scriptures, I will continue to beat that horse. But Blain, I do feel the HS with the help of brothers and sisters are helping get some clarity. I do think He is speaking of His children and of Jesus and of the Jesus in us, His people. We all agree He predestined the priest, prophets, judges, kings, still does. I think they are selected to help save the masses but that we were all created to have fellowship with Him, to love and serve Him. The ones that He forenew would accept, He predestined and justified.
Ps 53:2-3, might throw a different light on "The ones that he foreknew would accept", Just something to consider.
 

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You posted a page from their main site. Look closely at the link you posted. You can see http://originofnations.org
Does not matter if they link to a page I have read,
I did not read it through them or there web page.

But before today, I never seen the page you posted period.
I do not even know what church spin-off is this.
 

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Jeremiah’s Strange Commission: The Bible mentions three men only who were sanctified
for their respective offices before they were born—and of these three Jeremiah was the first.
The other two were John the Baptist and Jesus Christ!
Actually you are missing at least one more man . . . Armstrong forgot to tell you about him.
 

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I searched the site for anything that would explain how to become a Christian and found nothing. They use the word Christian freely enough. There is an article about what happens after we die but it is based on Ecclesiastes.

The group may have had a sort of face lift when they divested themselves from the Armstrong's . . . it gives the appearance of a works-based salvation.
B...,
I have a study in it's 3rd year now to locate any teachings prior to the 1960's re; OSAS, baptism not required, SUPER grace, and the like of new age religion teachings. I have found ...NONE.
Since you have a collection of articles do you have any references in your library of those and similar items?
Thanks,
 

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B...,
I have a study in it's 3rd year now to locate any teachings prior to the 1960's re; OSAS, baptism not required, SUPER grace, and the like of new age religion teachings. I have found ...NONE.
Since you have a collection of articles do you have any references in your library of those and similar items?
Thanks,
Are you asking if there are any one that believed in eternal security before 1960?

Here are a few books from my library . . .

Chafer, Lewis Sperry-Salvation-© 1917

Guthrie, Thomas - THE GOSPEL IN EZEKIEL: Illustrated in a Series of Discourses on Chapter 36 - © 1862

Hutchens, Paul-Know-So Christian: ""I know whom I have believed""-© 1933

Ironside, Harry-Full Assurance-© 1937

Scofield, Cyrus I. - The New Life In Christ Jesus - © 1915

Van Gorder, John J. - ABC'S OF SALVATION - © 1946


As to the New Age movement, that is something that came about in the 1980's and just another in a long line of cults.

When you say 'baptism not required', are you saying as opposed to the cult teachings of the Church of Christ that one can only be saved by being baptized? There have been writings opposing this heresy for as long as that group has been around.
 
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Yeah, I think until I can find harmony in all the scriptures, I will continue to beat that horse. But Blain, I do feel the HS with the help of brothers and sisters are helping get some clarity. I do think He is speaking of His children and of Jesus and of the Jesus in us, His people. We all agree He predestined the priest, prophets, judges, kings, still does. I think they are selected to help save the masses but that we were all created to have fellowship with Him, to love and serve Him. The ones that He forenew would accept, He predestined and justified.
We All need this!!
 

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Ps 53:2-3, might throw a different light on "The ones that he foreknew would accept", Just something to consider.
He saw none of are good though without Him, that's why we needed Yeshua, right? If we see that it wasn't until He looked down, that He knew that, what then do we do with the verses that say foreknew? I must find harmony, lol, Dog with a bone I am, lol. I suppose just cause it mentions that He looked down and looked, doesnt mean He hadn't looked before or better still, He knew before, hmmmm, I so enjoy looking at His word, so thank you.
 

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??? I did a search in my concordance for Jeremiah's strange commission. It ain't there. Apart from the Armstrong material I doubt you know what it is.
Jeremiah's strange commission? It isn't in the bible?
 

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I guess people have not read the book of Jeremiah.

“See,” said God, “I have set you this day over nations and over kingdoms, to pluck up
and to break down, to destroy and to overthrow, to build and to plant” (verses 9-10).

God gave Jeremiah a commision, to do something strange,
about nations and kingdoms, to pluck up, then to build and replant .

Long story short - post 29
God was going to remove the crown of David from the ruling line of Pharez
uprooted from Judah, and place it on the head of a son of Zarah.

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-to-accept-another.180466/page-2#post-3752398
 

CharliRenee

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I guess people have not read the book of Jeremiah.

“See,” said God, “I have set you this day over nations and over kingdoms, to pluck up
and to break down, to destroy and to overthrow, to build and to plant” (verses 9-10).

God gave Jeremiah a commision, to do something strange,
about nations and kingdoms, to pluck up, then to build and replant .

Long story short - post 29
God was going to remove the crown of David from the ruling line of Pharez
uprooted from Judah, and place it on the head of a son of Zarah.

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-to-accept-another.180466/page-2#post-3752398
Thank you, I'm now studying Jeremiah so thank you.