I want to understand the Catholic faith so....

[KenAllan]

Every time epostle you pray the "Hail Mary", you are praying to Mary. Every time you pray the Rosary, you are praying to Mary. Every time you bow down to a statue of Mary you are Worshiping Mary.

Matthew 6:7-8
[SUP]7 [/SUP] And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.

Every time you pray the Rosary you are repeating the "Hail Mary" over and over and over again. This is not what God wants.

Luke 18:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'

This is how God wants us to Pray epostle. He hates it when the Catholics repeat the "Hail Mary" over and over again.

You do know epostle, that you are asking Mary to be your god every time you pray the "Hail Mary"?

As it stands epostle if you keep on the path you are on you will never be allowed to enter into Heaven. Is this what you really want? Do you really want to spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire just to worship Mary?

Until you reject Mary epostle God cannot hear your Prayers to Him. Until you reject Mary you will never be allowed to enter into Heaven.

Your Eternal Soul is in danger epostle.

 

[epostle]

Satanism & the Eucharist

April 24, 2004
During my parish work last summer in France, one of my responsibilities was participating in a weekly prayer group for young adults who had fallen away from the Church. The last meeting of the summer, one of the guys made a surprising revelation to us all: before his conversion, he had been a full-fledged Satanist.
This reflection is the true story of that conversation and what I learned from it.
[HR][/HR]Satanism & the Eucharist

One of the most chilling moments in The Passion was during the Lord’s scourging, when Satan appears cradling a baby who slowly turns to reveal a hideous face. Here Satan is mocking Jesus and Mary by presenting himself as a twisted sort of “anti” Madonna and Child, as if to proclaim that he and his offspring have won, and not the woman and her offspring as foretold in Genesis 3:15. This is how the Evil One loves to work—Satan loves to mock God by imitating the holy and twisting it in a sick way. This past summer I was struck with this truth in a totally new way.

Nicolas had been a part of the prayer group all year long, but this was the first time that he had talked about his life before his conversion. He told us about how he became involved in Satanism while in his late teens. It enslaved him, bringing despair and utter loneliness to his life, to the point where he was tormented with thoughts of suicide. He felt trapped and helpless in its grasp. It was only through the constant prayers of his mother that he was finally freed from this slavery a couple of years ago, and he began to give his life back to Christ.

I had never met anyone like Nicolas, openly admitting a past involvement in Satanism. After the initial shock, I bombarded him with three questions, one after another. First, how did they ‘worship’ Satan? I had always heard that it was not anything like worshipping an image of Satan or singing hymns, but by having a so-called “Black Mass.” In other words, their entire service is a mockery of the Catholic Mass. Was this true, I asked him? Not a Protestant preaching service, not a Buddhist temple ritual, but an explicit mockery of our Mass? “Yes,” Nicolas told us, “that is true.”

I had also heard, I continued, that Satanists steal consecrated communion bread from their local Catholic churches which they desecrate at these black services. For example, I have heard of Catholic parishes where this is such a problem that the pastor is forced to post special attendants during Holy Communion who watch to make sure that no one receives the Eucharist and walks away without consuming the host. The Satanists take these consecrated hosts to their services—these wafers of “bread” that Catholics believe have been miraculously transformed by the Holy Spirit into the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ—and desecrate them with spit, bodily waste, and other such unimaginable blasphemies. Before your conversion, I asked Nicolas, did you and your fellow Satanists steal consecrated hosts for this purpose? “Yes,” Nicolas answered, “we did.”

The poor guy probably felt like he was being interrogated by the CIA by this point, but knowing that I might never have this opportunity again, I asked Nicolas one final question. I told him that I had also heard that those who were very deep in Satanism could actually tell whether a communion host had been consecrated or not. For example, they will not steal communion bread from Protestant communion meals, nor will they steal unblessed communion bread for desecration at these “Black Masses.” It would not work because some of the Satanists would immediately recognize that it was just ordinary bread. They would be able to tell that Jesus Christ was not sacramentally present there.

I asked Nicolas whether this also was true. He again replied that it is, and he told us that he could do this himself before his conversion from Satanism. A chill went down my spine. If someone were to put ten identical communion hosts in front of him, nine unconsecrated and one consecrated, he would have been able to point directly and immediately to the host that had been consecrated. I asked him in amazement, “But how were you able to know?!?” He looked at me and the words he spoke are forever burned in my memory: “Because of the hate,” he said. “Because of the burning hate I would feel toward that host, apart from all the others.”

His words hit me like a baseball bat. Some of the saints also had this mystical knowledge of the Lord’s Eucharistic presence, but this knowledge flowed from their deep union with Christ. Nicolas, on the other hand, knew Christ’s presence because his worship of Satan had worked the opposite mystical connection to the Eucharist—he knew Jesus was there not because of his love for Jesus, but because of his deep hate. It makes my skin crawl just to think about such hatred.

This is how Satan operates. He loves to mock whatever is holy and sacred, to imitate the truth and twist it in a perverse way. The Mass is the most sacred prayer on earth, the most awesome way for us Christians to offer worship to our Lord, so Satan has his followers worship him through a mockery of that prayer. Instead of lifting the Eucharist high with adoration and loving reverence, the Eucharist is thrown to the ground with loathing and derision. Rather than knowing Christ’s true presence in the sacrament through their love, they perversely recognize Christ’s presence through their hatred.

Let’s not pretend otherwise—it is scary to hear a story like Nicolas’. It is terrifying to realize that such evil exists in this world. But more than frighten us, his testimony should give us hope, comfort, and strength. Satan does exist and he is powerful, but Jesus Christ is infinitely more powerful. Even the most wicked sinner can be brought back to the love of the Lord, through Christ’s grace and through the prayers of believers (like Nicolas’ mother!) If Satan so despises the Mass, then we should be moved to even greater devotion, preparation, and participation in Mass. If Satan so despises the Lord’s true presence in the Eucharist, then our hearts should burn with even greater love and thirst for worthily receiving Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. “Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.”

A great explanation of the Eucharist : “Christ in the Eucharist”​

A fascinating talk given by Dr. Scott Hahn : “The Sacrament of Sacraments”

The Eucharist Miracle of Lanciano : http://www.cmns.mnegri.it/miracolo/shortdesc.html​

Satanism & the Eucharist | Saint Factory

"...Evil is a word that should be reserved for extreme instances of truculent behavior. Satanism qualifies as a classic example. In 2014 it surfaced on several occasions. As the academic year wound down at Harvard, Satanists scheduled a “Black Mass” on campus. The initial response of the administration was unsatisfactory, but after being pounded in the media, campus officials reconsidered their approach. Harvard president Drew Faust issued a statement defending the freedom of speech of the offending students, but she also condemned the obscene nature of the event; she joined a demonstration orchestrated by the protesting students. I commended her for her words and deeds, noting that more could have been done.

As it turned out, the “Black Mass” was held off-campus.Another “Black Mass” was slated to be performed at the Oklahoma City Civic Center in the fall. Oklahoma City Archbishop Paul Coakley won our assistance when he objected. The Satanist who planned this event was a registered sex offender: he was determined to desecrate a consecrated Host. In the end, the Host was returned and the sick event was carried out with a faux Host, thus turning the episode into a farce.

At the end of the year, Satanists garnered the assistance from Barry Lynn, the head of Americas United for Separation of Church and State. The Devil worshippers from Florida sought to put a Satanist display next to a nativity scene in the Capitol rotunda. Lynn proved what I have been saying for decades: Americans United, founded as an expressly anti-Catholic group, has no true interest in defending the First Amendment. Its real interest is to exploit the First Amendment, using it as a weapon to limit religious speech.

By joining arms with Satanists, Lynn removed all suspicion as to what its real mission is. One does not have to be a Satanist to traffick in unseemly attacks on Catholicism. Philip Kennicott, the art critic for the Washington Post, was aghast to learn that an obscene portrait of Our Blessed Mother was not included in a Washington D.C. exhibit of Catholic art. He blasted the National Museum of Women in the Arts for not displaying Chris Ofili’s “The Holy Virgin Mary.” This portrait, which is laden with elephant dung and pornographic pictures, was dubbed by Kennicott as “perhaps the most famous image of Mary painted in the last quarter century.” I led a demonstration outside the Brooklyn Museum of Art in 1999 when it was first exhibited..."
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY - Catholic League

 

[Gr8grace]

Satanism & the Eucharist

April 24, 2004
During my parish work last summer in France, one of my responsibilities was participating in a weekly prayer group for young adults who had fallen away from the Church. The last meeting of the summer, one of the guys made a surprising revelation to us all: before his conversion, he had been a full-fledged Satanist.
This reflection is the true story of that conversation and what I learned from it.
[HR][/HR]Satanism & the Eucharist
One of the most chilling moments in The Passion was during the Lord’s scourging, when Satan appears cradling a baby who slowly turns to reveal a hideous face. Here Satan is mocking Jesus and Mary by presenting himself as a twisted sort of “anti” Madonna and Child, as if to proclaim that he and his offspring have won, and not the woman and her offspring as foretold in Genesis 3:15. This is how the Evil One loves to work—Satan loves to mock God by imitating the holy and twisting it in a sick way. This past summer I was struck with this truth in a totally new way.
Nicolas had been a part of the prayer group all year long, but this was the first time that he had talked about his life before his conversion. He told us about how he became involved in Satanism while in his late teens. It enslaved him, bringing despair and utter loneliness to his life, to the point where he was tormented with thoughts of suicide. He felt trapped and helpless in its grasp. It was only through the constant prayers of his mother that he was finally freed from this slavery a couple of years ago, and he began to give his life back to Christ.
I had never met anyone like Nicolas, openly admitting a past involvement in Satanism. After the initial shock, I bombarded him with three questions, one after another. First, how did they ‘worship’ Satan? I had always heard that it was not anything like worshipping an image of Satan or singing hymns, but by having a so-called “Black Mass.” In other words, their entire service is a mockery of the Catholic Mass. Was this true, I asked him? Not a Protestant preaching service, not a Buddhist temple ritual, but an explicit mockery of our Mass? “Yes,” Nicolas told us, “that is true.”
I had also heard, I continued, that Satanists steal consecrated communion bread from their local Catholic churches which they desecrate at these black services. For example, I have heard of Catholic parishes where this is such a problem that the pastor is forced to post special attendants during Holy Communion who watch to make sure that no one receives the Eucharist and walks away without consuming the host. The Satanists take these consecrated hosts to their services—these wafers of “bread” that Catholics believe have been miraculously transformed by the Holy Spirit into the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ—and desecrate them with spit, bodily waste, and other such unimaginable blasphemies. Before your conversion, I asked Nicolas, did you and your fellow Satanists steal consecrated hosts for this purpose? “Yes,” Nicolas answered, “we did.”
The poor guy probably felt like he was being interrogated by the CIA by this point, but knowing that I might never have this opportunity again, I asked Nicolas one final question. I told him that I had also heard that those who were very deep in Satanism could actually tell whether a communion host had been consecrated or not. For example, they will not steal communion bread from Protestant communion meals, nor will they steal unblessed communion bread for desecration at these “Black Masses.” It would not work because some of the Satanists would immediately recognize that it was just ordinary bread. They would be able to tell that Jesus Christ was not sacramentally present there.
I asked Nicolas whether this also was true. He again replied that it is, and he told us that he could do this himself before his conversion from Satanism. A chill went down my spine. If someone were to put ten identical communion hosts in front of him, nine unconsecrated and one consecrated, he would have been able to point directly and immediately to the host that had been consecrated. I asked him in amazement, “But how were you able to know?!?” He looked at me and the words he spoke are forever burned in my memory: “Because of the hate,” he said. “Because of the burning hate I would feel toward that host, apart from all the others.”
His words hit me like a baseball bat. Some of the saints also had this mystical knowledge of the Lord’s Eucharistic presence, but this knowledge flowed from their deep union with Christ. Nicolas, on the other hand, knew Christ’s presence because his worship of Satan had worked the opposite mystical connection to the Eucharist—he knew Jesus was there not because of his love for Jesus, but because of his deep hate. It makes my skin crawl just to think about such hatred.
This is how Satan operates. He loves to mock whatever is holy and sacred, to imitate the truth and twist it in a perverse way. The Mass is the most sacred prayer on earth, the most awesome way for us Christians to offer worship to our Lord, so Satan has his followers worship him through a mockery of that prayer. Instead of lifting the Eucharist high with adoration and loving reverence, the Eucharist is thrown to the ground with loathing and derision. Rather than knowing Christ’s true presence in the sacrament through their love, they perversely recognize Christ’s presence through their hatred.
Let’s not pretend otherwise—it is scary to hear a story like Nicolas’. It is terrifying to realize that such evil exists in this world. But more than frighten us, his testimony should give us hope, comfort, and strength. Satan does exist and he is powerful, but Jesus Christ is infinitely more powerful. Even the most wicked sinner can be brought back to the love of the Lord, through Christ’s grace and through the prayers of believers (like Nicolas’ mother!) If Satan so despises the Mass, then we should be moved to even greater devotion, preparation, and participation in Mass. If Satan so despises the Lord’s true presence in the Eucharist, then our hearts should burn with even greater love and thirst for worthily receiving Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. “Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed.”

A great explanation of the Eucharist : “Christ in the Eucharist”​

A fascinating talk given by Dr. Scott Hahn : “The Sacrament of Sacraments”

The Eucharist Miracle of Lanciano : http://www.cmns.mnegri.it/miracolo/shortdesc.html​

Satanism & the Eucharist | Saint Factory

For eyes that can see. In satans "i wills" one of them is " I will be like the most High" not " I will be UNLIKE the most high"

satan will send "angels of light" to confirm and uplift the things he has set up to be "like" God.

 

[epostle]

..........This thread isn't about sex....

Sorry, I thought this thread is about understanding the Catholic faith. Catholic teaching says contraception and abortion are twin evils of the same root. It's not a no-you-can't doctrine, it's about doing God's will in the bedroom and promotes healthy families-a sound basis for societies to function. I know there are lots of Catholics-by-default who ignore the teaching, but the teaching is in place. The divorce rate for contracepting couples is staggering. 50-70% ? While the divorce rate for couples who practice Natural Family Planning is <3%. Many Protestant churches and doctors offices offer NFP coaching, yet some ministers are silent or even say contraception is good. The Church's opposition to contraception/abortion is the leading cause of state and media persecution, in my opinion.
Book review:
Charles E Rice is emeritus professor at the Notre Dame Law School. In this excellent and highly readable work, he argues that the state now sees itself as the highest moral authority and, as such, it has become absolute. The state creates "rights" that undermine the moral order by rejecting the very existence of objective truth. For example, the state seeks to re-define marriage without recourse to objective truth. While reading this book, this reviewer was reminded that this is nothing new: the state has previously re-defined marriage to prevent people of different races from marrying each other.

Ultimately, this current re-definition has been made possible by contraception: "The contraceptive society cannot deny legitimacy to the homosexual lifestyle without denying its own premise, that whether sex will have any relation to procreation is entirely up to the decision of the persons involved." If there is no link between marriage and children, then marriage can surely be re-defined. We can no longer take for granted that the purpose of marriage is to be open to procreation and to form a family.Persecution will follow because of the overwhelming power that the state exerts over its people. Those who reject marriage re-definition are going to be punished by the state.Professor Rice puts forward solid arguments to show that what is being attempted here is the dethroning of God and the natural law by the state.
Book Review - Contraception and Persecution
The Church defends the family while the Whore of Babble-on psychos, the Satanists, the radical feminists,the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, much of the media, the homofascists, and a legion of others are all at war against the Church. Anti-Catholic "Christians" need to know what they have in common.

 

[notuptome]

So -- the thing that matters the most about being Catholic is ... sex???

What?

You want to take this thread where? Into the bedroom?

What?



Pssssst! You should stop digging now -- before the hole gets any deeper...

Any Place but the bible.

James said that a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Not just some but all.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[epostle]

Umm, you're wrong here.. the bible DOES indeed say not to call any man their "father" except Him. So Magenta was right in her assessment. First you say the bible says no such thing, then you contradict yourself and say it IS scriptural..


Scripture tells us not to call anyone Father but God.
No, scripture says no such thing. Scripture says not to elevate anyone to the level of God the Father. Catholics don't do that.

Catholics call many men "father."

It's very scriptural.

"Scripture tells us not to call anyone Father but God" is a eisegetical interpretation of Matthew 23:9 when taken literally and in isolation. Scripture does not say that, or it contradicts several passages. Jesus is using hyperbole, an emphasis. Does scripture forbid you from calling your biological father "father"??? Do you think that is what Jesus meant?

Matt. 23:9 - Jesus says, "call no man father." Using this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests "father" is biblical illiteracy. This is an example of "eisegesis" (imposing one's views upon a passage) as opposed to "exegesis" (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus warns us not to elevate anyone to the level of our heavenly Father. THAT IS WHAT JESUS MEANT.

Matt. 23:8 – in this teaching, Jesus also says not to call anyone teacher or rabbi as well. But don’t you call your teachers “teacher?” What about this commandment of Jesus? When you say “call no man father,” you must also argue that we cannot call any man teacher either.

Judges 17:10; 18:19 - priesthood and fatherhood have always been identified together. Fatherhood literally means "communicating one's nature," and just as biological fathers communicate their nature to their children, so do spiritual fathers communicate the nature of God to us, their children, through (hopefully) teaching and example.

Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13 - elders of the Church are called "fathers." Therefore, we should ask the question, "Why don't you call your pastors "father?" Who is more "scriptural"?

1 Cor. 4:15 - Paul writes, "I became your father in Christ Jesus."

1 Cor. 4:17 - Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful "child" in the Lord.

2 Cor. 12:14 - Paul describes his role as parent over his "children" the Corinthians.

Phil. 2:22 - Paul calls Timothy's service to him as a son serves a "father."

1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders' ministry to the people like a father with his children.

1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 - Paul calls Timothy his true "child" in the faith and his son.

Titus 1:4 - Paul calls Titus his true "child" in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.

Philemon 10 - Paul says he has become the "father" of Onesimus.

Heb. 12:7,9 - emphasizes our earthly "fathers." But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).

1 Peter 5:13 - Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his "son."

1 John 2:1,13,14 - John calls the elders of the Church "fathers."

Then there is a list from the Old Testament.

 

[epostle]

THESE ARE HERETICAL CHURCHES



[h=1]Sacrilege! United Methodist and Episcopalian Churches Join in Prayer to “Bless” an Ohio Abortion Clinic[/h]​

 

[sydlit]

THESE ARE HERETICAL CHURCHES


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Cant believe you actually posted something I agree with!
You still owe my sister an apology.

 

[Utah]

Cant believe you actually posted something I agree with!
You still owe my sister an apology.

Amen to this, Brother!

 

[onlinebuddy]

We are one body. If one member hurts, we all hurt. If one is happy, we are all happy. Sin affects the one body the same way. The video makes this quite clear.

The video uses 1 Cor 12 to teach about catholic confession to a priest.
As I have mentioned earlier, the entire chapter of 1 Cor 12 is about the unity of the church.
Paul is saying that the Jews, the gentiles, the slaves and the free,
are now part of one and the same body[v13].
Paul is emphasizing about the gifts of the Holy Spirit as evident from the first and last verse of the chapter[v1 & v30].
The message is that we must have equal concern for each other.[v25]

Nowhere is the word "confession" or "priest" mentioned in the entire chapter.
Also, it is nowhere mentioned that sin affects the "mystical" body of Christ (as the video states).
Nowhere in the chapter is it mentioned sin affects the relationships in the church.
(The Bible teaches that our sin first and foremost affects our relationship with God,
although it may affect our relationship with our brothers and sisters.)

The video uses this chapter out of context to explain the Sacrament of Confession & Penance.

 

[onlinebuddy]

[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]James 5:16 - James clearly teaches us that we must “confess our sins to one another,” not just privately to God. James 5:16 must be read in the context of James 5:14-15, which is referring to the healing power (both physical and spiritual) of the priests of the Church. Hence, when James says “therefore” in verse 16, he must be referring to the men he was writing about in verses 14 and 15 – these men are the ordained priests of the Church, to whom we must confess our sins.

No "ordained" "priests" are mentioned in the passage or the preceding or succeeding verses.
The Bible never teaches of any priest. The only priest it teaches in the NT is our High Priest Jesus!

Yes, verse 14 mentions elders of the church, but these are not "ordained priests" with seminary degrees in theology,etc. Elders were married men (advisably, though not necessary) who led the way by their example in faith, maturity, integrity caring, selflessness and humility.

The quoted verse says that we must "confess our sins to one another." If this meant that I must confess my sins to a priest, it would bring us to the logical conclusion that the priest must confess his sins to me as well. This would mean that the priest must pray for me and I for the priest.

 

[onlinebuddy]

[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]James 5:16 must be read in the context of James 5:14-15, which is referring to the healing power (both physical and spiritual) of the priests of the Church. Hence, when James says “therefore” in verse 16, he must be referring to the men he was writing about in verses 14 and 15 – these men are the ordained priests of the Church, to whom we must confess our sins.

“It is called the sacrament of confession, since the disclosure or confession of sins to a priest is an essential element of this sacrament...It is called the sacrament of forgiveness, since by the priest’s sacramental absolution God grants the penitent ‘pardon and peace.’”[Catechism Para. 1424.]

“It is through the sacrament of Penance that the baptized can be reconciled with God and with the Church...This sacrament of Penance is necessary for salvation for those who have fallen after Baptism, just as Baptism is necessary for salvation for those who have not yet been reborn.” [Catechism. Para. 980]

Priests have received from God a power that he has given neither to angels nor to archangels...God above confirms what priests do here below. Were there no forgiveness of sins in the Church, there would be no hope of life to come or eternal liberation. Let us thank God who has given his Church such a gift.”[Catechism Para 983]
Where in the Bible is a catholic priest (or a church leader) given the power to forgive or absolve sin?
Where in the Bible does it say that a catholic priest has received from God a power that has neither been given to angels nor archangels?

The only man who had such powers when he walked on the earth was Jesus!!!

 

[onlinebuddy]

John 20:22 - the Lord "breathes" on the apostles, and then gives them the power to forgive and retain sins. The only other moment in Scripture where God breathes on man is in Gen. 2:7, when the Lord "breathes" divine life into man. When this happens, a significant transformation takes place.


John 20:23 - Jesus says, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven. If you retain the sins of any, they are retained." In order for the apostles to exercise this gift of forgiving sins, the penitents must orally confess their sins to them because the apostles are not mind readers. The text makes this very clear.


Matt. 9:8 - this verse shows that God has given the authority to forgive sins to "men." Hence, those Protestants who acknowledge that the apostles had the authority to forgive sins (which this verse demonstrates) must prove that this gift ended with the apostles. Otherwise, the apostles' successors still possess this gift. Where in Scripture is the gift of authority to forgive sins taken away from the apostles or their successors?

In John 20:22-23, Jesus does not give any judicial power to the apostles. He is commissioning them to preach the word to the world and to proclaim forgiveness of sins through belief in the Gospel. They were to preach repentance and forgiveness of sins.

In order to understand what John 20:22-23 is exactly saying, we must refer to the parallels to this verse, which can be found in Luke 24:47, Matthew 28:18-20, and Mark 16:15-16.

What did the apostles understand by the words of Jesus in John 20:22-23?
Well, read the book of Acts, and you will know!
Read what Peter preached in Acts 2:38 and Acts 10:43, and you will understand.

Matthew 9:8 is misquoted by you, epostle. In this verse everyone was amazed that God had given Jesus (I repeat, Jesus) the power to forgive the sins of and heal a paralytic. This verse is about Jesus, and not about the catholic priest.

Every scripture used in the catholic teachings is smartly and subtly distorted to mean something else. The qualities of Jesus are attributed to Mary, and the power of Jesus is given to the priest.
The ignorant, peaceful and unsuspecting average catholic cannot see through all the deceit, as he sadly does not know his Bible.

 

[sydlit]

Originally posted in #684 by a pro-catholic coward who still owes our sister magenta an apology:
"...the Satanists, the radical feminists,the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, much of the media, the homofascists, and a legion of others are all at war against the Church. Anti-Catholic "Christians" need to know what they have in common."

And now for the truth:
●...the Satanists, the radical feminists, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, much of the media, the homofascists, and a legion of others are all at war against the Church. That's Right...THE TRUE CHURCH of BORN-AGAIN BELIEVERS IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!
ANTI-CHRISTIAN ---'CATHOLICS'---need to know what they have in common.

 

[epostle]

Hmm! Your link to Catholics having better sex doesn't lead to any studies or any kind of objective comparision between committed Protestants vs Catholics. Or for that matter, a Catholic married to an alcoholic who stayed with him for years, in spite of his adulteries and terrible sex. (A close friend of mine!)

She should have left him a long time ago; comparing the worst Catholic with the best Protestant is hardly fair, don't you think?

National Health and Social Life Survey

Principal Investigator: Edward O. Laumann, Ph.D., George Herbert Mead Distinguished Service Professor and Departmental Chair, Department of Sociology, University of Chicago
Methodology details
http://popcenter.uchicago.edu/data/nhsls_errata.txt

The Catholic Church is far from being the last "bastion" of love's true romance. I'm living the dream and I promise you, my husband and I both repudiate most of of the major doctrines of the RCC, especiallly soteriology!

I'm happy for you, seriously. The study was done over a large group of people. Just because Catholics have better sex demographically does not mean that all non-Catholics have inferior sex. What, in your opinion, is the single worst destroyer of families? infidelity or contraception?

Committed Protestants, in my experience have great sex. Because they are committed to God first, and then to their spouse.

The study shows committed Protestants quite favorably.

We are saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ.

Francis Beckwith resigned on May 5 as president of the Evangelical Theological Society. One week earlier the Baylor University philosophy professor rejoined the Roman Catholic Church, his home until age 14. He spoke with Christianity Today editor David Neff about the reaction to his decision, theological misconceptions, and evangelical strengths and weaknesses.

What good things from the evangelical community will you take back with you to Roman Catholicism?

A number of things. First, I think of the evangelical emphasis on the importance of Scripture. Much of what I see in the Catholic Church is formed by my evangelical experience. When I recite, for instance, the Apostles' Creed, I think it's more of a cognitive experience for me than with people who have been Catholic for some time. Emphasis on the written word comes from my evangelical background—that is, when I read these things, I'm really interested in what the text is saying, not just the mystical part, which is certainly also appropriate. For instance, after reading the Apostles' Creed, I turned to my wife and I said, "You know, there are only two proper names in the creed—Pontius Pilate and Virgin Mary. I don't know if anyone's ever noticed that."

I still consider myself an evangelical, but no longer a Protestant. I do think I have a better understanding of what sometimes the Catholic Church is trying to convey. Protestants often misunderstand. The issue of justification was key for me. The Catholic Church frames the Christian life as one in which you must exercise virtue—not because virtue saves you, but because that's the way God's grace gets manifested. As an evangelical, even when I talked about sanctification and wanted to practice it, it seemed as if I didn't have a good enough incentive to do so. Now there's a kind of theological framework, and it doesn't say my salvation depends on me, but it says my virtue counts for something. It's important to allow the grace of God to be exercised through your actions. The evangelical emphasis on the moral life forms my Catholic practice with an added incentive. That was liberating to me.

Some of the people who have been critical say, "You've gone into the oppressive works system of Catholicism." That's not the way I look at it at all. I look at it as a chance to do good. My own work apart from God's grace doesn't matter for my salvation; what matters is the sort of person I become by allowing God's grace to work through my obeying his commandments and taking the sacraments. Unfortunately, the view of justification is sometimes presented clumsily by some Catholic laypeople.

Angela, is this the Catholic soteriology you repudiate?

I would love to discuss with you what we have in common concerning Matrimony.

 

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CATHOLIC SOCIAL TEACHING

 

[Blain]

Originally posted in #684 by a pro-catholic coward who still owes our sister magenta an apology:
"...the Satanists, the radical feminists,the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, much of the media, the homofascists, and a legion of others are all at war against the Church. Anti-Catholic "Christians" need to know what they have in common."

And now for the truth:
●...the Satanists, the radical feminists, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, much of the media, the homofascists, and a legion of others are all at war against the Church. That's Right...THE TRUE CHURCH of BORN-AGAIN BELIEVERS IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!
ANTI-CHRISTIAN ---'CATHOLICS'---need to know what they have in common.

Hey I know we have had issue with him but theres no need to be name calling

 

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sydlit, if I was wrong about Magenta, she would have told me and I would have apologized. But she hasn't said anything to me in any post or in private messages. Leave it alone, and leave Magenta alone. I admire your chivalry but Magenta can take care of herself.

 

[sydlit]

Hey I know we have had issue with him but theres no need to be name calling

Name-calling?! Really? The word coward is name-calling? Come on, Blain. When are you gonna stand up for your sister? Did you see what this heretic said to magenta re: her childhood? And tho he's been asked repeatedly to apologize to her, he's made no attempt at all. Coward is too soft a word. Maybe magenta isn't your sister, blain but she is mine. It's bad enough when an anti-christian comes to this site, spews lies about our saviour, salvation, the word of God, the Real Mary of the bible etc., then refuses to listen to the truth from genuine believing christians, but THEN, insults our friend and my sister..... he's not just a coward, he's a spineless, yellow punk. I am willing to put up with alot, and will dialogue with just about anyone, if they're willing to consider the truth from scripture.....even this one, if he was man enough to apologize, I would say like Jesus, 'Come, let us reason together...', but this one has shown repeatedly he's not interested in the truth, but has an agenda, and has crossed the line, both with his demeanor and his insults.
Blain, I love you, brother, and this is your thread, if you want me to stay away I will, but I hope you re-consider, and don't let this guy fool you. Jesus used terms like snakes, vipers, whitewashed tombs, etc. If I can continue to contribute here, I'll only use the one word for him until he apologizes, but he's shown no signs of consideration.
Coward is getting off easy. Your brother in Christ, michael.

 

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CATHOLIC SOCIAL TEACHING

Catholic social teaching is a central and essential element of our faith. Its roots are in the Hebrew prophets who announced God's special love for the poor and called God's people to a covenant of love and justice. It is a teaching founded on the life and words of Jesus Christ, who came "to bring glad tidings to the poor . . . liberty to captives . . . recovery of sight to the blind"(Lk 4:18-19), and who identified himself with "the least of these," the hungry and the stranger (cf. Mt 25:45). Catholic social teaching is built on a commitment to the poor. This commitment arises from our experiences of Christ in the eucharist.

As the Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, "To receive in truth the Body and Blood of Christ given up for us, we must recognize Christ in the poorest, his brethren" (no. 1397).

Catholic social teaching emerges from the truth of what God has revealed to us about himself. We believe in the triune God whose very nature is communal and social. God the Father sends his only Son Jesus Christ and shares the Holy Spirit as his gift of love. God reveals himself to us as one who is not alone, but rather as one who is relational, one who is Trinity. Therefore, we who are made in God's image share this communal, social nature. We are called to reach out and to build relationships of love and justice.

Catholic social teaching is based on and inseparable from our understanding of human life and human dignity. Every human being is created in the image of God and redeemed by Jesus Christ, and therefore is invaluable and worthy of respect as a member of the human family. Every person, from the moment of conception to natural death, has inherent dignity and a right to life consistent with that dignity. Human dignity comes from God, not from any human quality or accomplishment.

Our commitment to the Catholic social mission must be rooted in and strengthened by our spiritual lives. In our relationship with God we experience the conversion of heart that is necessary to truly love one another as God has loved us.
Catholic Social Teaching

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