One Catholic apologist I spoke with for a time straight up denied that I was brought up the way I had claimed, as if they knew the practices of my school and church as a child despite the fact they were not there, so great was their imperious presumption, so great their pride in seeking to make me wrong at any cost. It can be quite mind blowing what Catholics will claim, and takes some getting used to being blatantly lied to like that.
I want to understand the Catholic faith so....
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Apology accepted. However, one has to wonder if its possible for you to error in a simple calculation in mathematics, why should anyone take your personal thoughts of the Catholic faith, and personal interpretation of Scripture as absolute and without error?
Ha..ha..... bait and switch? did you not see the little smiley face at the end of that statement? You really need to lighten up girl.
p.s. My brothers and I did refure to our Dad as "Pop's" from time to time, as does my own son does to me....... with no disrespect taken! Sheesh girl..... you need to get over it! {rolling eyes}
"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed." ------- Luke 1:48.
Do you?
Pax Christi
In 1895, Einstein sat the entrance examinations to get into the prestigious Federal Polytechnic School (or Academy) in Zurich, Switzerland. He did outstandingly well in physics and mathematics, but failed the non-science subjects, doing especially badly in French - so he was not accepted.
According to the Catholic logic just displayed, because Einstein failed French, we should find everything else he had to say on any other subject highly suspect. Oy!
According to the Catholic logic just displayed, because Einstein failed French, we should find everything else he had to say on any other subject highly suspect. Oy!
For the Catholics here.
As I read through the back and forth insults being past here, I still find myself wanting to know a few more important things.
Although I still believe it to be false, I'll give you your perspective of Mary, the mother of Jesus. It's futile to try to show you that you are wrong.
My next question is do you believe that the Father (God), Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit, are also together the Father (God)?
Why? or Why not?
As I read through the back and forth insults being past here, I still find myself wanting to know a few more important things.
Although I still believe it to be false, I'll give you your perspective of Mary, the mother of Jesus. It's futile to try to show you that you are wrong.
My next question is do you believe that the Father (God), Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit, are also together the Father (God)?
Why? or Why not?
Its not about what they want or do not want to believe in.
Its all about the Worship of Mary as their god and their teaching the commandments of men as Doctrines from God.
These two things by themselves will keep the Catholics from be allowed to enter into Heaven
Look at Pope John Paul II, he did Worship Mary as his God and he did teach the commandments of men as Doctrines from God. Pope John Paul II will not be allowed to enter into Heaven. He WILL be cast into the Lake of Fire with Satan and the rest of the Catholics.
Its all about the Worship of Mary as their god and their teaching the commandments of men as Doctrines from God.
These two things by themselves will keep the Catholics from be allowed to enter into Heaven
Look at Pope John Paul II, he did Worship Mary as his God and he did teach the commandments of men as Doctrines from God. Pope John Paul II will not be allowed to enter into Heaven. He WILL be cast into the Lake of Fire with Satan and the rest of the Catholics.
Dictionary definitions are irrelevant. They tell us what you PRETEND to do if others ask you about it.
Veneration before an image is worship, and breaks the command against bowing down to graven images. If you really think that old women make this distinction you need your head examining.
No one said it was. But bowing down before graven images IS WORSHIP.
You do twist things, but then you have order to defend your churches false teachings. Bowing down before graven images is worship. It is false worship.
LOL I didn't notice a graven image among them. You just play with words.
All bowing before graven images like Mary is worship.
were you born stupid or did it grow on you?
LOL yes you clearly were born stupid. What has this to do with graven images?
to some extent yes LOL. But that's the point it doesn't stop. It results in worship of the being involved
:smoke: about mary . ...
let ask her about the truth
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Luke: 1. 45. And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.
46. And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord.
47. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48. Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49. Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.
50. And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.
:happy: remember this always
Romans: 1. 24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
God bless us all always
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let ask her about the truth
:read:
Luke: 1. 45. And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.
46. And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord.
47. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48. Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49. Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.
50. And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.
:happy: remember this always
Romans: 1. 24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
God bless us all always
:ty:
:smoke: about mary . ...
let ask her about the truth
:read:
Luke: 1. 45. And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.
46. And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord.
47. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48. Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49. Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.
50. And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.
as it is written
:read:
John: 13. 16. Amen, amen I say to you: The servant is not greater than his lord; neither is the apostle greater than he that sent him.
:happy: remember this always
Romans: 1. 24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
God bless us all always
:ty:
let ask her about the truth
:read:
Luke: 1. 45. And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.
46. And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord.
47. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48. Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49. Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.
50. And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.
as it is written :read:
John: 13. 16. Amen, amen I say to you: The servant is not greater than his lord; neither is the apostle greater than he that sent him.
:happy: remember this always
Romans: 1. 24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
God bless us all always
:ty:
from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Jesus said,
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
Therefore I shall rejoice and be glad, for I am blessed, just as Jesus has said.
Jesus said,
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
Therefore I shall rejoice and be glad, for I am blessed, just as Jesus has said.
Since we are quoting history, did you also know that Albert Einstein in his autobiography, wrote that, as a child, his nonobservant Jewish parents sent him to the nearest good school, which was, as it happened, a Catholic school? And he was, throughout primary grades, brought up in the spirit of Catholic school by the nuns, and he adored it?
And in reguards to world war two, Albert Einstein wrote: "Only the Catholic Church protested against the Hitlerian onslaught on liberty. Up till then I had not been interested in the Church, but today I feel a great admiration for the Church, which alone has had the courage to struggle for spiritual truth and moral liberty." (Ibid., 251)
"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed." ---Luke 1:48.
Do you?
Pax Christi
But according to you, one minor error makes everything else a person says suspect. So, no, we cannot trust anything else he said even if it was sworn truth in his autobiography, and please keep in mind this is using your line of reasoning and logic, so... Gee, and it really does look like he lied, in saying that only the Catholic church protested against Hitler's onslaught against liberty. Wow. Blatant lie.
Much of the free "first" whole world rose up against Hitler, but the Catholic church is promoted as the only one that protested the onslaught against liberty. LOL. This is the type of baloney Catholics promote as truth in their haste to exalt themselves above others. Pat yourself on the back any more and you may hurt yourself. Please stop.
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