If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

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Yes there must have been a special reason. God put a special blessing in the 7th day. He made it a Holy day. God said the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
That was the day God rested from His awesome work of creation.
It is interesting that the commandment was given to Isreal, but not included in the commandments to the gentiles.
That doesn't mean we are not allowed to keep it.
Thete is definitely a big blessing on the Sabbsth. I kept it fir a long while and lived doing so. I can't remember having felt that blessing keeping the first
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Paul tells us not to let anyone judge us according to which day we keep holy. You just have to be convinced in your own heart what is right, that is where He looks.
I have been non-denominational for a very long time, but am feeling convicted to start keeping the Sabbath again.
I believe, as with everything else, we should study it for ourselves and ask The Holy Spuroy to guide us. Then follow our conviction, because then we are where God wants us to be. God has His people in many different places and always has a perfect reason for that.
Yes he bless and sanctified it to give us A special day to HAVE OUR meat on, A day set apart FOR GOD AND US To get to KNOW each other ON, Sanctified means set apart for HOLY USE, And that is plain as it can GET
 
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I am A BIBLE BELIEVEING CHRISTIAN, That know that the BIBLE says that JESUS DIDN"T CHANGE THE SABBATH, IT says it still REMAINS, And I PRAISE GOD, FOR OPENING MY eyes up to knowing about the SABBATH, Sunday will also become the MARK OF THE BEAST, When Sunday LAWS are enforced, And that is getting real close.
This verse makes it very plain, who we will be worshiping when the Sunday LAWS are enforced. Then those that are keeping the true 7th DAY SABBATH WILL be persecuted, because they will not keep the False Sunday sabbath
You place more emphasis on a day of the week than on God’s love and saving grace. I pray you see the error of your ways.
 

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Concrete thinking is a tough one, there is nothing Jesus can't heal and restore, but if we want to cling to error, He will allow it.
 
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The bible makes it clear that all scripture is relevant. Regarding the Old and New testaments, it was man who divided these two testaments, as well as designating the books, chapters, and verses. You cannot comply with the two greatest commandments if you break the 10 commandments. To mention a couple, I would say that those pertaining to murder and adultery do indeed really matter, as well as the other 8, all of which were written on stone with the finger of God. Jesus went to the synagogue many times and read from what are now considered books of the Old Testament.
I see what you mean and understand that very well. However, Christ’s commandments are much deeper and beautiful than the ten commandments. He condemn the evil directly at its roots. Matthew gospel is a good example of that. For example: Jesus said that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Similarly, Jesus said that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. And in both cases, contrary to the OT, Jesus tell you what to do to overcome such situations. Hence, you don’t need the OT to be a good christian just listen to Jesus ...
For me, the OT is more a source of divisions and occasions to sin for many christians and this thread clearly demonstrates that... In summary, we agree in substance but have different perspectives.
 

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I see what you mean and understand that very well. However, Christ’s commandments are much deeper and beautiful than the ten commandments. He condemn the evil directly at its roots. Matthew gospel is a good example of that. For example: Jesus said that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Similarly, Jesus said that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. And in both cases, contrary to the OT, Jesus tell you what to do to overcome such situations. Hence, you don’t need the OT to be a good Christian just listen to Jesus ...
For me, the OT is more a source of divisions and occasions to sin for many Christians and this thread clearly demonstrates that... In summary, we agree in substance but have different perspectives.
It's all good brother. Let us go in peace. :)
 

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The name OF the Papacy that he did wear on his head, and how to count his number
Is there a reason that you repeat posts of material that have been directly and clearly refuted?

The panel here makes a connection between the LATIN TITLE for the pope, not the NAME of anyone. The Bible was not written in Latin, Jesus wasn't speaking Latin, and the papacy did not even exist when Jesus told John about the number of the beast!

In other words, PLEASE stop posting irrelevant blather.
 

shittim

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"Concrete thinking"?
 

Dino246

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Faith Is to OBEY. Not just the Sabbath, But ALL of GOD's Commandments And HIS HOLY WORD.
Um, no.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1, KJV).
 
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Um, no.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1, KJV).
By Faith WE have HOPE, Because We HAD the FAITH TO OBEY GOD Commandments, THAT we mite have the right to the TREE OF LIFE,
REV 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [ OBEDIANCE IS REQUIRED, to his commandments, YESUAH makes it very plain HERE,
And if those that want to twist it around, will just be deceiving people and trying to pull other people into the fire with them,
22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Notice that this don't SAY those that are breaking the Commandments, And YESUAH is calling the ones that are not keeping HIS Commandments, 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. The commandments are A requirement for GOD'S people, And is our part of the new COVENANT to GOD, And the LAWS that GOD writes on our Hearts,
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
 
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You place more emphasis on a day of the week than on God’s love and saving grace. I pray you see the error of your ways.
I can smile at what you say HERE, GOD's LOVE will not saved any body, THAT does not repent, and quit committing SIN, I LOVE GOD NEW COVENANT And the TEN commandments that YESUAH writes on our HEARTS, When GOD writes them on our HEARTS We JUST love them. And let me tell you, it takes the LOVE OF GOD TO love HIS Commandments, And yes it is A fight of faith to keep them, as Paul tells US
 

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I can smile at what you say HERE, GOD's LOVE will not saved any body, THAT does not repent, and quit committing SIN, I LOVE GOD NEW COVENANT And the TEN commandments that YESUAH writes on our HEARTS, When GOD writes them on our HEARTS We JUST love them. And let me tell you, it takes the LOVE OF GOD TO love HIS Commandments, And yes it is A fight of faith to keep them, as Paul tells US


John 3:16 :)
 

shittim

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Some concrete is harder than other concrete.
 

Dino246

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By Faith WE have HOPE, Because We HAD the FAITH TO OBEY GOD Commandments,
No, that is salvation by works. "Faith to obey God (sic) commandments" is not consistent with the definition of faith in Hebrews 11:1.
 

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By Faith WE have HOPE, Because We HAD the FAITH TO OBEY GOD Commandments, THAT we mite have the right to the TREE OF LIFE,
REV 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [ OBEDIANCE IS REQUIRED, to his commandments, YESUAH makes it very plain HERE,
And if those that want to twist it around, will just be deceiving people and trying to pull other people into the fire with them,
22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Notice that this don't SAY those that are breaking the Commandments, And YESUAH is calling the ones that are not keeping HIS Commandments, 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. The commandments are A requirement for GOD'S people, And is our part of the new COVENANT to GOD, And the LAWS that GOD writes on our Hearts,
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

I'm curious about what your saying about the "New Covenant" In Acts 15 the Apostles and Elders assembled to discuss whether or not the Gentiles should be circumcised and follow the law of Moses and they determined that this(saying) had gone out but it did not come from them(Apostles,elders) and then they gave an "letter" (Acts 24-29) giving their advice as to this. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 15&version=KJV

My question is that none of them mentioned that this did not apply to neither the Jews nor the gentiles because they were both under an "New Covenant" instead at that time, instead they said that they did not see the gentiles under the yoke(verse 10) as in the case of their fathers. They did not argue that the Jews themselves were no longer under the law and should no longer be circumcised and follow the law and ended with their letter stating that stated they did not agree with what some others were saying about it applying to the gentiles do you agree with what the Apostles and Disciples agreed to on the matter?
 

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No, that is salvation by works. "Faith to obey God’s commandments" is not consistent with the definition of faith in Hebrews 11:1.
Amen! Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. Obeying God‘s Commandments after we have been saved through faith is works.
 
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I'm curious about what your saying about the "New Covenant" In Acts 15 the Apostles and Elders assembled to discuss whether or not the Gentiles should be circumcised and follow the law of Moses and they determined that this(saying) had gone out but it did not come from them(Apostles,elders) and then they gave an "letter" (Acts 24-29) giving their advice as to this. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 15&version=KJV

My question is that none of them mentioned that this did not apply to neither the Jews nor the gentiles because they were both under an "New Covenant" instead at that time, instead they said that they did not see the gentiles under the yoke(verse 10) as in the case of their fathers. They did not argue that the Jews themselves were no longer under the law and should no longer be circumcised and follow the law and ended with their letter stating that stated they did not agree with what some others were saying about it applying to the gentiles do you agree with what the Apostles and Disciples agreed to on the matter?
I away agree with the Apostles and Disciples in THE BIBLE, The BIBLE IS ALWAYS RIGHT, When Every Body in the whole world disagree with the Scripture, They ARE WRONG, If any Church disagree with anything in the BIBLE, EVEN the S.D.A.THAT church is Wrong, And the BIBLE is Right, That is when I started learning in the BIBLE is when I realize that when I read two scriptures and what I read in the two Scriptures does not AGREE and seems to contradict each other, then I know that the way I believe IS WRONG, And start looking for something else IN the scriptures that helps me under stand what it is really saying. All scriptures ARE SAYING THE SAME THING, And none Contradict Another one, IF it does, our doctrine is WRONG,
I don't really know what you are asking, I hope this answer your question, If not fill free to ask maybe in different works, what you are saying. May GOD bless you as GOD sees GOOD for YOU.