Is being slain in the Spirit Biblical?

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AnandaHya

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excerpt:

Morrison drew the following conclusion from his research:

"Just as the Western psychologists are proffering ancient shamanistic practices in a guise which is more palatable to the uninitiated Westerners, so the professing Christian churches which peddle 'religious fainting' have simply made the Possession-Trance state of shamanism more readily acceptable to the undiscerning sheep who attend their heated meetings. These are the true origins of the strange phenomena which are being so widely reported today and which are bringing the gospel and the Church of Jesus Christ into so much disrepute."
Mark 9:19-21
New King James Version (NKJV)
19 He answered him and said, “O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him to Me.” 20 Then they brought him to Him. And when he saw Him, immediately the spirit convulsed him, and he fell on the ground and wallowed, foaming at the mouth.
21 So He asked his father, “How long has this been happening to him?”
And he said, “From childhood.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEqXWMtbvkQ[/video]
 
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I have never experienced it myself. I do know many who have though. who have had genuine encounters of being overcome by the Holy Spirit's power. I personally haven't, and one time, under the very forceful push of a very aggressive pastor, i actually did a courtesy fall.

not exactly my dream encounter with God. but i know sometimes when His presence is on me i do feel weak.
so.... i don't know.
Thanks for your honesty and how you presented that experience. You made me laugh and also to see the strife that is involved with some of this activity. In my church this has never been taught nor practiced but we do lay hands on the sick, anoint them with oil and when we pray we believe through the love and grace of God that any sins they have committed will be forgiven according to (Jm 5:14,15).

Some believers are conditioned to respond in a certain manner through their faith and desperately want to feel the presence of God on them as well as in them. In these ministries that practice slaying people in the Spirit, they probably believe God with all their heart for something supernatural. All that God requires from us is to believe by faith for what we are trusting Him for. To be slain is probably an emotional response to believing in the presence of God. Is it necessary to fall down, I don't think so. We can receive from God's mercy by faith standing straight up with boldness and I think God likes that. We are often told in the scriptures to stand and to stand fast and see God's goodness and salvation.

Heb 12:9-13

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
 
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Graybeard

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I experienced this "slain in the Spirit" a long time ago, was prayed for and fell backward so hard and fast that the "catcher" was caught off guard, I hit the floor with a loud thud that I heard gasping from the congregation, I don't know what to make of it, but I do know that I was not hurt or winded in anyway whatsoever and while on the floor a peace came over me that I have never experienced before.......some say this is of Satan, what I experienced was a peace and joy that I find very hard to believe that Satan could give, hard to explain. I would caution anyone who so easily accuses The Holy Spirit of being from the Devil......be careful to not grieve Him with accusations that you may not understand.

I fully believe that the "catchers" should be done away with because if The Holy Spirit is moving on a person they will not be harmed in any way, this will do away with those that are carnal...my opinion
 
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cronjecj

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I experienced this "slain in the Spirit" a long time ago, was prayed for and fell backward so hard and fast that the "catcher" was caught off guard, I hit the floor with a loud thud that I heard gasping from the congregation, I don't know what to make of it, but I do know that I was not hurt or winded in anyway whatsoever and while on the floor a peace came over me that I have never experienced before.......some say this is of Satan, what I experienced was a peace and joy that I find very hard to believe that Satan could give, hard to explain. I would caution anyone who so easily accuses The Holy Spirit of being from the Devil......be careful to not grieve Him with accusations that you may not understand.

I fully believe that the "catchers" should be done away with because if The Holy Spirit is moving on a person they will not be harmed in any way, this will do away with those that are carnal...my opinion
Garybeard, did you check out the video that AnandaHya posted?
 
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Garybeard, did you check out the video that AnandaHya posted?
These videos don't speak as to what is going on in the church worldwide not do they represent what God is doing in His body. Some of you have a serious problem with all of this stuff that you like to emphasize and keep magnifying.

Take Zone for example. She wouldn't be happy if she couldn't slam the door on Dispensational Truth. That is her life-line because she has this idea that understanding the scriptures according to dispensational truth is some form of corruption that has come from the synagogue of Satan and anyone that adheres to that form of teaching is also corrupt and in need of repentance. Yet she adheres to the notion that we are in the kingdom age and that Satan has been bound for the last 2,000 years and to the idea that there will be a future hologram of Christ coming in the clouds imitating the rapture to deceive believers. She's just not all there and is filled with all kinds of self knowledge and conspiracy theories that it would make your head spin if you listened to it.

She's been doing it for a long time and is convinced she's not only right about it, but that you will pay dearly if you don't heed her warning. She's messed up and any intelligent believer that has the Spirit and is in a good teaching ministry can discern her a mile away. This is her thing and she is rooted in it and has all these INTERNET teachers that she support who think the same way. It will turn sour and she will be embittered in the long run because she lives in a false peace with a wrong premise and many faulty presuppositions. So many have turned from the truth and sound doctrine and when Christ comes back for the church PRETRIB, they will call Him (if they see Him) a false Christ and will give some lame excuse of deception for what has happened.

Don't be deceived by those that have been spurned and twisted from the truth concerning Christ and the church. Christ is coming for every believer that He has redeemed from the inception of the church that began at the ascension of Christ. He will come in the same manner as He ascended to take both the living and the dead in the clouds of the air and forever to be with Him. God will deal with His elect Israel, as He has promised, and turn ungodliness from Jacob. When the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled the (70th) week of Daniel will begin and be fulfilled in the (7) year period of the tribulation, with the first (3.5 yrs) of peaceful coexistence and the last (3.5yrs) as a time of trouble, of great tribulation, and of wrath.

But the church during this time will be reigning with Christ in heaven, having gone through the judgment of the believer and waiting to be dispatched with Christ (their bridegroom) at His Second Coming for a 1,000 year honeymoon after a great victorious battle and a judgment of the nations and it will all be done with their glorified bodies right here on the earth with sinners. Those sinners won't be consumed either, even though they have the sentence of death in them and they will reproduce as they always have. The church comes with Christ at the Second Coming and reigns with Him. Dispensational truth is the goodness of God and not the evil corruption of the synagogue of Satan. But those that think otherwise are not wise and call evil good and good evil. From those we should refrain from any fellowship until the goodness of God leads them to repentance.
 
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Abiding

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wrong thread..obsessed tho huh?
 

zone

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These videos don't speak as to what is going on in the church worldwide not do they represent what God is doing in His body. Some of you have a serious problem with all of this stuff that you like to emphasize and keep magnifying.

Take Zone for example. She wouldn't be happy if she couldn't slam the door on Dispensational Truth. That is her life-line because she has this idea that understanding the scriptures according to dispensational truth is some form of corruption that has come from the synagogue of Satan and anyone that adheres to that form of teaching is also corrupt and in need of repentance. Yet she adheres to the notion that we are in the kingdom age and that Satan has been bound for the last 2,000 years and to the idea that there will be a future hologram of Christ coming in the clouds imitating the rapture to deceive believers. She's just not all there and is filled with all kinds of self knowledge and conspiracy theories that it would make your head spin if you listened to it.

She's been doing it for a long time and is convinced she's not only right about it, but that you will pay dearly if you don't heed her warning. She's messed up and any intelligent believer that has the Spirit and is in a good teaching ministry can discern her a mile away. This is her thing and she is rooted in it and has all these INTERNET teachers that she support who think the same way. It will turn sour and she will be embittered in the long run because she lives in a false peace with a wrong premise and many faulty presuppositions. So many have turned from the truth and sound doctrine and when Christ comes back for the church PRETRIB, they will call Him (if they see Him) a false Christ and will give some lame excuse of deception for what has happened.

Don't be deceived by those that have been spurned and twisted from the truth concerning Christ and the church. Christ is coming for every believer that He has redeemed from the inception of the church that began at the ascension of Christ. He will come in the same manner as He ascended to take both the living and the dead in the clouds of the air and forever to be with Him. God will deal with His elect Israel, as He has promised, and turn ungodliness from Jacob. When the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled the (70th) week of Daniel will begin and be fulfilled in the (7) year period of the tribulation, with the first (3.5 yrs) of peaceful coexistence and the last (3.5yrs) as a time of trouble, of great tribulation, and of wrath.

But the church during this time will be reigning with Christ in heaven, having gone through the judgment of the believer and waiting to be dispatched with Christ (their bridegroom) at His Second Coming for a 1,000 year honeymoon after a great victorious battle and a judgment of the nations and it will all be done with their glorified bodies right here on the earth with sinners. Those sinners won't be consumed either, even though they have the sentence of death in them and they will reproduce as they always have. The church comes with Christ at the Second Coming and reigns with Him. Dispensational truth is the goodness of God and not the evil corruption of the synagogue of Satan. But those that think otherwise are not wise and call evil good and good evil. From those we should refrain from any fellowship until the goodness of God leads them to repentance.
loud and clear.
why so preoccupied with ZONE red?

if your stuff is true it will stand.
why so worried and acting like a cult leader?

let them decide for themselves.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Now that's funny. Kinda' like the pot calling the kettle black. *lol*
I think I found another pot.


Clean up in isle three! Looks like all the pots fell on the floor!
 
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loud and clear.
why so preoccupied with ZONE red?

if your stuff is true it will stand.
why so worried and acting like a cult leader?

let them decide for themselves.
I'm occupied, not with you but what you propagate and how you propagate it. Your the one with over 9,000 posts and I wonder how many of them have to do with this theme of yours. I would say that you have been pretty preoccupied with CI Scofield, more than the average nut case. All your posts are right there for all to read along with your wacko friend PPS. You guys take the liberty to say whatever you want about these men and many many more, but when someone comes back at you and calls your number out, you play the little sheep game and want people to feel for you, especially all the women and those men that take on a female spirit and making food oblations.

This labeling of a cult leader is old stuff that comes from that old serpent the devil. He's still around deceiving people and projecting lies and making accusations through many that profess Christ. Using them as his ministers of righteousness of false doctrine that he can used to cause confusion, strife and every evil work. Keep it up Zone, you are what you are.
 

zone

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I'm occupied, not with you but what you propagate and how you propagate it. Your the one with over 9,000 posts and I wonder how many of them have to do with this theme of yours. I would say that you have been pretty preoccupied with CI Scofield, more than the average nut case. All your posts are right there for all to read along with your wacko friend PPS. You guys take the liberty to say whatever you want about these men and many many more, but when someone comes back at you and calls your number out, you play the little sheep game and want people to feel for you, especially all the women and those men that take on a female spirit and making food oblations.

This labeling of a cult leader is old stuff that comes from that old serpent the devil. He's still around deceiving people and projecting lies and making accusations through many that profess Christ. Using them as his ministers of righteousness of false doctrine that he can used to cause confusion, strife and every evil work. Keep it up Zone, you are what you are.


s'all good redster.

pretrib is stupid.
 
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Bloodwashed

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I love Finny. I read my Spurgeon devotional every day! People do fall out at my church! I never have, only because I stop myself. My wife has set down as fast as she can, to keep from falling. I'v gone to the back of the Church to dance, & then stagered around like a drunk. Sorry, this is where God took me!
I love you all, no matter what you think! God Bless--Mark--
 
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Abiding

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same battle ive already posted on it
 
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I received the Spirit in the one place most would least expect. No preacher to push me down, no witnesses to say what took place.

Do not sell yourself short of faith; You are precious in His sight, and no one can remove you from His hand. You don't have to pretend any more; His Truth is your gift.
thank you so much! <3 that's beautiful!
 
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Thanks for your honesty and how you presented that experience. You made me laugh and also to see the strife that is involved with some of this activity. In my church this has never been taught nor practiced but we do lay hands on the sick, anoint them with oil and when we pray we believe through the love and grace of God that any sins they have committed will be forgiven according to (Jm 5:14,15).

Some believers are conditioned to respond in a certain manner through their faith and desperately want to feel the presence of God on them as well as in them. In these ministries that practice slaying people in the Spirit, they probably believe God with all their heart for something supernatural. All that God requires from us is to believe by faith for what we are trusting Him for. To be slain is probably an emotional response to believing in the presence of God. Is it necessary to fall down, I don't think so. We can receive from God's mercy by faith standing straight up with boldness and I think God likes that. We are often told in the scriptures to stand and to stand fast and see God's goodness and salvation.

Heb 12:9-13

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

i'm so glad i made you laugh :D
i never planned to do a courtesy fall. but the guy was literally pushing. hahahahahaha.
 
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It's one thing to be Anti Charismatic, that will earn you points among some people. However, Antisemitism will be the thing that kills this website if it's allowed to go unchecked.
i completely agree. if it was the only one of it's kind i wouldn't say anything. but ada said the same stuff on a thread of mine entitled "Happy Birthday Yeshua"

he went off about "those Jews" i can't help but wonder where the line is.....
it probably shouldn't bug me as much as it does... but antisemitism pops up it's ugly head at random moments. and it's really hard to ignore.
 

zone

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LOL. Amills say the darndest things.
not just amils shroomeister....there are 'millennialists' who think pretrib is stupid too.
love ya
zone wallenstein, "antisemite":rolleyes: