Is it wrong to masturbate ?

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JosephsDreams

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As far as masturbation, I would say it is a sippery slope, no pun intended.
Do it often enough, and probably no good will come of it.
Did you ever think, or pray, that hard as it may be to accept, that God is trying to show or teach you something in your circumstance?
 

JosephsDreams

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For many men it can be a way to relieve stress, or may be a security to hold on to. Literally.
Sometimes it can be motivated from purely biological impulses, but that is not usually the case.
Our security and relief is in and from the Lord. This can be a instance where God really wants you to seek Him, and desires to answer questions you may not even know to ask. To rely more on Him, increase your faith.
I am not implying you are not close to God or do not already have faith. He may just want to take you to another level.
 

valiant

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I think we need to pray for this guy. His post is inappropriate even in a thread about masturbation. He is not married yet claims to have not masturbated for over 20 years. Further, his use of the term BETA as a pejorative, may indicate some esteem issues. Brother Utah is right I believe that he is angry about something.

Dear Lord, please help this man with whatever issue he is going through. In Jesus name.
he claims he's not a Christian but a seeker
 
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BeyondET

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The science and psychology,

evidence shows that masturbation is detrimental to both men and women. If you have ever taken a class in psychology, you probably learned about Pavlov’s dog. Pavlov was a guy who rang a bell every time he was about to feed his dog. By doing this, the dog came to associate the bell with food, and would begin salivating at the sound of the bell. This is known as a trained response.

The human mind can be trained in the same way. In fact, the pleasure center of the brain is the most easily trained part of the human mind. This place in the brain is called the Medial Pre-optic Nucleus (MPN), and when the body experiences great pleasure, as in a sexual release, this part of the brain is rewarded. when a person experiences sexual arousal, the brain releases endorphins that help train the MPN to associate pleasure with whatever the person is doing, looking at, smelling, and so on. Unconsciously, a person forms a bond between a particular image, scent, or person and the feeling of sexual pleasure. (That’s one reason porn magazines have perfume samples in them).

During sexual pleasure, this bond is further solidified by the release of a neuropeptide called oxytocin. This also creates a bond between people during a sexual act. If a person is alone, it still creates a mental bond with whomever he or she is fantasizing about. However, this bonding mechanism is damaged through casual sexual arousal (Masturbation).
This scientific discovery sheds new light on Paul’s words: “Do you not know that he who joins himself to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, ‘The two shall become one flesh.’ . . . Shun immorality. Every other sin which a man commits is outside the body; but the immoral man sins against his own body” (1 Cor. 6:16–18).
When a person experiences sexual pleasure while masturbating and lusting after another in his imagination, he is training his brain to be stimulated by fantasy images in his own mind. If this is what a person’s brain identifies as the cause of sexual joy, then where does this leave his or her spouse one day? A spouse is not a fantasy image that you act upon, but a real human being with his or her own personality, feelings, emotions, etc. Yet instead of being able to take joy in the actual person in the marriage bed, the individual trained by masturbation may be driven to find stimulation in inner fantasies even while trying to make love to his or her spouse. Sometimes men and women may look beyond their own imagination to adultery, strip clubs, pornography, or a disordered lust for one another to satiate their desires. Sometimes, the habit of masturbation continues within marriage in order to take care of sexual “needs.”
Now, this does not mean that you are doomed to a dysfunctional marriage if you have ever experienced sexual pleasure with anyone other than your husband or wife. However, it does mean that you will have obstacles to overcome that those without such a history will not struggle with. The brain can be retrained, but it will take time according to how well-entrenched the habit of lust has become.
This should show us that God’s plan for our sexuality is stamped into our anatomy. When people live according to God’s truths, their bodies will associate sexual joy with their spouse. God has designed our bodies to ensure that a married couple will be physiologically drawn toward each other. Their minds have been trained that way. As the Bible says, “Let your fountain be yours alone, not one shared with strangers. And have joy of the wife of your youth, your lovely hind, your graceful doe. Her love will invigorate you always. Through her love you will flourish constantly” (Prov. 5:17–19).
 
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Since the bible is not clear on the topic, I think that it's a matter of faith.

However, I do think it is wrong to continue replying to this thread such that I have to continually read the word masturbate at the top of the main page.
 

valiant

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For many men it can be a way to relieve stress, or may be a security to hold on to. Literally.
Sometimes it can be motivated from purely biological impulses, but that is not usually the case.
Our security and relief is in and from the Lord. This can be a instance where God really wants you to seek Him, and desires to answer questions you may not even know to ask. To rely more on Him, increase your faith.
I am not implying you are not close to God or do not already have faith. He may just want to take you to another level.
it is never dealt with in scripture and yet Israelites travelling must have done it many times. Furthermore to lump it under 'sexual impurity' is arbitrary.

I can think of a number of occasions when a heavily sexed man might see it as necessary, without lustful thoughts.

1) A priest who is required to be celibate tempted beyond endurance thus avoiding actual 'sinning'.

2) A man with a wife who cannot satisfy him through physical or mental disorder.

3) A man away for a long time from his wife,

Is it better to masturbate without lust or to burn?

we should be careful not to judge until we have been in his position as the scripture is silent,

what is the difference between foreplay and masturbation?

I do not know the answer. But it is easy to sit and judge.
 
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coby

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it is never dealt with in scripture and yet Israelites travelling must have done it many times. Furthermore to lump it under 'sexual impurity' is arbitrary.

I can think of a number of occasions when a heavily sexed man might see it as necessary, without lustful thoughts.

1) A priest who is required to be celibate tempted beyond endurance thus avoiding actual 'sinning'.

2) A man with a wife who cannot satisfy him through physical or mental disorder.

3) A man away for a long time from his wife,

Is it better to masturbate without lust or to burn?

we should be careful not to judge until we have been in his position as the scripture is silent,

what is the difference between foreplay and masturbation?

I do not know the answer. But it is easy to sit and judge.
It is uncleanness. Saying it is sin is not judging someone.
1) is forbidding to marry so he is tempted to sin
2) the first years of my marriage I was physically unable to have sex until I got healed by prayer, so I simply helped him out. Problem solved.
The difference is that your spouse cares for you. Corinthians tells spouses to do that so you don't get tempted by the devil to masturbate and such.
 
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Lost_sheep

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Friend, are you saying you have never sinned? Sin is a conscience act done against good advice while knowing it is wrong. But that's a silly question, isn't it? I mean a "man" with the kind of sterling self-control you have would never do such a thing.
Every man has his weakness, his own demon to fight. For some it is fornication, for some it is drink, for some it is smoke, for some it is lying, for some it is cursing.............every man but you, sorry, I almost forgot.
Your arrogance will be a snare for you if you don't drop it. You will be caught up in something that you can't control with that kind of foolish talk. I would strongly urge you to rethink your statement and reflect on what sin that bedevils you.


Where, in anything I wrote did I say the words "I have never sinned"? Did you fail reading comprehension in school?

I said I have never touched myself, and that is a fact. My first sexual experience was a long term girlfriend, then a protracted period of celibacy until I met my first wife, then another after my divorce, then active again with my second wife, now celibate once again. Celibate = no sexual activity.

Please though, read more into my posts than exists. Oh, and pray for me...like that's going to do anything except waste your words and annoy God.
 

valiant

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It is uncleanness.
then why is foreplay not uncleanness? you dogmatise without scripture, fail


Saying it is sin is not judging someone.
lol of course it is.

1) is forbidding to marry so he is tempted to sin
that does NOT make masturbation sin.

2) the first years of my marriage I was physically unable to have sex until I got healed by prayer, so I simply helped him out. Problem solved.
how did you help Him out? are you heavily sexed? for many men the problem is not solved after a year.

The difference is that your spouse cares for you. Corinthians tells spouses to do that so you don't get tempted by the devil to masturbate and such.
Funny, my Bible doesn't mention masturbation, you are ADDING to scripture,
 
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coby

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then why is foreplay not uncleanness? you dogmatise without scripture, fail




lol of course it is.



that does NOT make masturbation sin.



how did you help Him out? are you heavily sexed? for many men the problem is not solved after a year.



Funny, my Bible doesn't mention masturbation, you are ADDING to scripture,
I know. It is not clearly in Scripture that masturbation is uncleanness, but helping your husband if it is impossible normally didn't invite filthy demons in and masturbation did. So believe what you want, I shared the warning dream God gave me. It's not up to me to convince people. Ask God yourself.
 

Utah

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I think we need to pray for this guy. His post is inappropriate even in a thread about masturbation. He is not married yet claims to have not masturbated for over 20 years. Further, his use of the term BETA as a pejorative, may indicate some esteem issues. Brother Utah is right I believe that he is angry about something.

Dear Lord, please help this man with whatever issue he is going through. In Jesus name.
Amen, Brother. I rejoice knowing Jesus is the only Alpha Male; everyone else is a delusional Beta.
 
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"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."
1 Corinthians 10:31
 
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coby

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Amen, Brother. I rejoice knowing Jesus is the only Alpha Male; everyone else is a delusional Beta.
Alpha and Omega male LOL
 

blue_ladybug

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As far as masturbation, I would say it is a sippery slope, no pun intended.
Do it often enough, and probably no good will come of it.
Did you ever think, or pray, that hard as it may be to accept, that God is trying to show or teach you something in your circumstance?

A sippery slope? Sounds like a rootbeer float or something.. :confused:
 
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KimPetras

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Goodness....I think it would be hard to make the case that this is something God wants us doing. (period)
I doubt God would be in support of binge eating and watching the Super Bowl, but I don't know if He would necessarily be "opposed" to it either.

You could say that gathering together with Christian friends, fellow-shipping and eating refreshments while watching football brings unity and closeness between believers and unbelievers of Christ. I could buy that.

You could also say that if a person is having sexual desires and is unmarried but thinks of a blank white wall while he releases is being prudent by weakening the carnal desires of the flesh so that he doesn't commit fornication in his body, mind, or heart. I could buy that too.
 
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KimPetras

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It demonstrates that men have no willpower over their hormones, and that is really sad..especially from guys who think they are so tough or strong. Not having control over one's hormones means you're a weakling. A sissy. A girly boy. I feel sorry for men who have to arm wrestle themselves in private to the point of orgasm. I wish they had some kind of strength.
Stop trying to troll me. You'll lose. You take your post count to mean you can speak to anyone any way you want. You cannot. Dork.
How awesome of you to have the willpower to not masturbate but not enough to resist name calling. Ironically, I would think name calling and either treating people with respect or ignoring someone would be trivial to such a strong man in check of all his mental and temporal emotions.
 
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KimPetras

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No, we all haven't done the deed. I've never, ever done the deed. Not once. Some of us have some semblance of self control and aren't slaves to impulses. Don't lump all of us in the same basket because most of you men are weak of will.
I haven't touched myself like a pervert in over 20 years, but what does that really matter?
Is lying another compulsion of yours? :p