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I asked if anyone thought that it was weird that Jesus talked to himself all of the time to emphasize that he was talking to His Father. Is was not a joke as much as it was intended to provoke thought. As John832 quoted Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. They are one, but they are separate individuals.
I believe that is the first thought we've all had provoked. When I first started following Jesus I was confused. I argued with my grandmother and she explained it like a "layer in onions" lol or something to that effect.
But then as I read the bible for myself. There was too much that was stark and clear. From old, new, and last (rev) I realized that what I was reading could not be any other way, so therefore the confusion I had from the beginning rested in my own mortal understanding. God did that for His own purposes, whether it was to show us how to pray, or so that He could come down here fully human and still maintain His exact purpose in heaven, I don't know.
But like I said, He is VERY clear in many areas of the bible that just can't be dismissed and Jesus is worthy of all praise. I safely praise Jesus to the extent that He IS GOD. As the bible shows.
But then as I read the bible for myself. There was too much that was stark and clear. From old, new, and last (rev) I realized that what I was reading could not be any other way, so therefore the confusion I had from the beginning rested in my own mortal understanding. God did that for His own purposes, whether it was to show us how to pray, or so that He could come down here fully human and still maintain His exact purpose in heaven, I don't know.
But like I said, He is VERY clear in many areas of the bible that just can't be dismissed and Jesus is worthy of all praise. I safely praise Jesus to the extent that He IS GOD. As the bible shows.
He'll be the perfect King
The Pope wears the Babylonian Ephod: It is a band of cloth running down the front and back. When David removed the STOLA as a women's garment all he had on was the Ephod which was/is an idol of a female part.
2 Sam 6:13 And it was so,
............ that when they that bare the ark of the Lord had gone six paces,
............ he sacrificed oxen and fatlings.
AND
1Chronicles 15:27 And David was clothed with a ROBE OF FINE LINEN, and all the Levites that bare the ark, and the singers, and Chenaniah the master of the song with the singers: David ALSO had upon him an ephod of linen.
Commentary on Vergil, Aeneid. book 6, line 645. The long robe was characteristic of musicians, as Cerda shows, comp. Prop. 3. 23. 16, “Pythius in longa carmina veste sonat” (of the statue of Apollo in the Palatine temple), and also Hor. A. P. 215, Ov. F. 6. 654, 688, where the long robes of the ‘tibicines’ are mentioned and accounted for. ‘Cum veste’ above v. 359. Elsewhere we have ‘in veste,’ as 12. 169, “puraque in veste sacerdos.”
THE DANCING BY DAVID: THE STOLA OF FEMALE MUSICIANS IS NOW GONE.
-2 Samuel 6.[14 2 Sam 6:14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might;and David was girded with a linen ephod.
Sal·ta·to·ry (s1. Of, relating to, or adapted for leaping or dancing. 2. Proceeding by leaps rather than by smooth, gradual transitions. -Saltō āvī, ātus, āre, freq. salio, to dance : in convivio saltare nudus coeperat: nemo enim fere saltat sobrius, nisi, etc.: scire saltare, O.: Fac saltet, O.: ad tibicinismodos, L.—Fig., to speak jerkingly, speak in short clauses : saltat incīdens particulas.—With acc: aliquam mimo saltante puellam, dancing a girl's part , O.: Cyclopa, H.: saltata poëmata, recited with rhythmical movements
2 Sam 6:20 Then David returned to bless his household.
............ And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David,
............ and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day,
............ who uncovered himself to day
............ in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants,
............ as one of the VAIN fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself
-2 Samuel6.20]
-Nūdo , āvi, ātum, 1, v. a. nudus,
I. to make naked or bare; to strip, bare, lay bare, expose to view, uncover (syn.: exuo, detego, revelo).
1. In milit. lang., to leave uncovered, leave exposed or defenceless, to expose a place to the enemy
2. Pregn., to strip, spoil, plunder: “spoliavit nudavitque omnia,” Cic. Verr. 1, 5, 14
-Scurra , ae, m.an elegant, town-bred man; a fine gentleman, gallant, dandy. Also of an elegant debauchee, 1. A city buffoon, droll, jester (usually in the suite of wealthy persons, and accordingly a kind of parasite; syn.: -Of the clown in a pantomime, Juv. 13, sannio, parasitus) Same as Auloedus one who sings to the flute.
Miriam and the Levites who "prophesied" with instruments performed soothsaying-sorcery. Both were brought from Egypt and were called PRIMIARY PARASITE. Parasite in the Greek literally MEANS a singer, player, actor, acrobat in a sacrificial system. The Insane Acting Parasites or musical worship teams would automatically be regarded by the ticket holders as having no prodeuctive role and looking goofy.
Reading is a wonderful gift: it is called A holy spirit or A good conscience Jesus gives you when you request it ONLY by obedience in baptism.
HALAL as David's PRAISE word means TO MAKE ONESELF VILE which apparently protected even the evil from a god.
2 Sam 6:13 And it was so,
............ that when they that bare the ark of the Lord had gone six paces,
............ he sacrificed oxen and fatlings.
AND
1Chronicles 15:27 And David was clothed with a ROBE OF FINE LINEN, and all the Levites that bare the ark, and the singers, and Chenaniah the master of the song with the singers: David ALSO had upon him an ephod of linen.
Commentary on Vergil, Aeneid. book 6, line 645. The long robe was characteristic of musicians, as Cerda shows, comp. Prop. 3. 23. 16, “Pythius in longa carmina veste sonat” (of the statue of Apollo in the Palatine temple), and also Hor. A. P. 215, Ov. F. 6. 654, 688, where the long robes of the ‘tibicines’ are mentioned and accounted for. ‘Cum veste’ above v. 359. Elsewhere we have ‘in veste,’ as 12. 169, “puraque in veste sacerdos.”
THE DANCING BY DAVID: THE STOLA OF FEMALE MUSICIANS IS NOW GONE.
-2 Samuel 6.[14 2 Sam 6:14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might;and David was girded with a linen ephod.
Sal·ta·to·ry (s1. Of, relating to, or adapted for leaping or dancing. 2. Proceeding by leaps rather than by smooth, gradual transitions. -Saltō āvī, ātus, āre, freq. salio, to dance : in convivio saltare nudus coeperat: nemo enim fere saltat sobrius, nisi, etc.: scire saltare, O.: Fac saltet, O.: ad tibicinismodos, L.—Fig., to speak jerkingly, speak in short clauses : saltat incīdens particulas.—With acc: aliquam mimo saltante puellam, dancing a girl's part , O.: Cyclopa, H.: saltata poëmata, recited with rhythmical movements
2 Sam 6:20 Then David returned to bless his household.
............ And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David,
............ and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day,
............ who uncovered himself to day
............ in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants,
............ as one of the VAIN fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself
-2 Samuel6.20]
-Nūdo , āvi, ātum, 1, v. a. nudus,
I. to make naked or bare; to strip, bare, lay bare, expose to view, uncover (syn.: exuo, detego, revelo).
1. In milit. lang., to leave uncovered, leave exposed or defenceless, to expose a place to the enemy
2. Pregn., to strip, spoil, plunder: “spoliavit nudavitque omnia,” Cic. Verr. 1, 5, 14
-Scurra , ae, m.an elegant, town-bred man; a fine gentleman, gallant, dandy. Also of an elegant debauchee, 1. A city buffoon, droll, jester (usually in the suite of wealthy persons, and accordingly a kind of parasite; syn.: -Of the clown in a pantomime, Juv. 13, sannio, parasitus) Same as Auloedus one who sings to the flute.
Miriam and the Levites who "prophesied" with instruments performed soothsaying-sorcery. Both were brought from Egypt and were called PRIMIARY PARASITE. Parasite in the Greek literally MEANS a singer, player, actor, acrobat in a sacrificial system. The Insane Acting Parasites or musical worship teams would automatically be regarded by the ticket holders as having no prodeuctive role and looking goofy.
Reading is a wonderful gift: it is called A holy spirit or A good conscience Jesus gives you when you request it ONLY by obedience in baptism.
HALAL as David's PRAISE word means TO MAKE ONESELF VILE which apparently protected even the evil from a god.
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In the beginning was the WORD: The word is Hebrew Dabar or Greek LOGOS. In the real world everyone understands that LOGOS or WORD is what one SPEAKS. God's' SPEAKING role is NOT carried out by ANOTHER PERSON especially Jesus: that would despise God and that is defined as blasphemy. When people are OUT OF THEIR mind perhaps the MIND is not in control of the TONGUE and lips: but who would DESIGN a God like that.
Logos is defined as God REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE and it is defined as opposite to preacher's tales or jokes, singing, playing, acting or dancing. My words don't DANCE so why would people have such a degraded view of the ONE GOD THE FATHER. The son is not God but the son of the father. That's reading 101 but strong delusions removes that power. God's REGULATING POWER which is defined by CENI is NOT another God person: where has all the logic gone?
THE MAN WHO INVENTED TRINITY OR "TRIAS" HAD NOTHING LIKE THE PREACHER-SCHOOL LOGIC.
Theophilus to Autolycus Doctrine of the trinity.
And first, they taught us with one consent that God made all things out of nothing; for nothing was coeval with God: but He being His own place, and wanting nothing,and existing before the ages, willed to make man by whom He might be known;
for him, therefore, He prepared the world.For he that is created is also needy; but he that is uncreated stands in need of nothing.
......God, then, having His own Wordinternal within His own bowels,
......begat Him, emitting Him
......along with His own wisdom before all things.
He had this Word as a helper in the things that were created by Him, and by Him He made all things.
He [Word] is called "governing principle", because He rules, and is Lord of all things fashioned by Him.He [Word] , then, being Spirit of God, and GOVERNING PRINCIPLEand wisdom, and power of the highest,came down upon the prophets, and through them spoke of the creation of the world and of all other things. (This was the Spirit of Christ, 1 Peter 1:11; Revelation 19:10)
For the prophets were not when the world came into existence,
......but the wisdom [Spirit in this instance is Sophia] of God which was IN Him, and
......His holy Word which was always present with Him.
When the ONE GOD THE FATHER made Jesus to be both LORD and CHRIST, AS LORD He is God's GOVERNING POWER in the flesh. God had His governing power WITHIN HIMSELF in the beginning and to say that God HAD NOT WORDS OR REASONING power without JESUS OF NAZARETH defines that "strong delusion" which God GIFTS to people who despise His Word as it is written.
Bless your heart, if you think that God's WORD is another PEOPLE then get help.
Logos is defined as God REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE and it is defined as opposite to preacher's tales or jokes, singing, playing, acting or dancing. My words don't DANCE so why would people have such a degraded view of the ONE GOD THE FATHER. The son is not God but the son of the father. That's reading 101 but strong delusions removes that power. God's REGULATING POWER which is defined by CENI is NOT another God person: where has all the logic gone?
THE MAN WHO INVENTED TRINITY OR "TRIAS" HAD NOTHING LIKE THE PREACHER-SCHOOL LOGIC.
Theophilus to Autolycus Doctrine of the trinity.
And first, they taught us with one consent that God made all things out of nothing; for nothing was coeval with God: but He being His own place, and wanting nothing,and existing before the ages, willed to make man by whom He might be known;
for him, therefore, He prepared the world.For he that is created is also needy; but he that is uncreated stands in need of nothing.
......God, then, having His own Wordinternal within His own bowels,
......begat Him, emitting Him
......along with His own wisdom before all things.
He had this Word as a helper in the things that were created by Him, and by Him He made all things.
He [Word] is called "governing principle", because He rules, and is Lord of all things fashioned by Him.He [Word] , then, being Spirit of God, and GOVERNING PRINCIPLEand wisdom, and power of the highest,came down upon the prophets, and through them spoke of the creation of the world and of all other things. (This was the Spirit of Christ, 1 Peter 1:11; Revelation 19:10)
For the prophets were not when the world came into existence,
......but the wisdom [Spirit in this instance is Sophia] of God which was IN Him, and
......His holy Word which was always present with Him.
When the ONE GOD THE FATHER made Jesus to be both LORD and CHRIST, AS LORD He is God's GOVERNING POWER in the flesh. God had His governing power WITHIN HIMSELF in the beginning and to say that God HAD NOT WORDS OR REASONING power without JESUS OF NAZARETH defines that "strong delusion" which God GIFTS to people who despise His Word as it is written.
Bless your heart, if you think that God's WORD is another PEOPLE then get help.
Understanding the Holy Trinity has nothing to do with preschool NOR Bible College. It is Wisdom given to us by the Holy Spirit HIMSELF, and the understanding has nothing to do with human intellect, but rather is understanding with a spiritual mind. That is ONLY possible after the Holy Spirit brings our human spirit to eternal life (born again).
1 Corinthians 2:10-16 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians 2:10-16 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
God's Spirit is God's Mind or Intellect. God's Spirit was made FLESH in Jesus of Nazareth. The another (different state) Comforter in John 14 is in 1 John 2 Called Jesus Christ the Righteous. The Spirit OF God is God's own spirit. The Spirit OF Christ spoke that to the Prophets (1 Peter 1:11; Rev 19:10). Jesus delivered the WORD which carries God's SPIRIT or MIND or governing rules ONLY to the Apostles and validated THEIR eye-- and ear-- witness by signs and wonders. Peter said that the Prophets and Apostles is not subject to private interpretation or further expounding. Peter and others left their PART for our memory since WE are not Christ selected Apostles. He said that those who do NOT speak that which is written are false teachers. The written word is the ONLY way to guard against people who SEE visions or HEAR voices.
Spirit NEVER speaks of a People: evil spirits are daemons or demons. My spirit is NOT another person inside of me.
Spirit literally means ONLY WIND: in a figurative sense it means the BREATH of God. Breath is how God transfers WORDS so that we don't trust people who claim supernatural power.
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[TD]SPIRIT in Hebrew. Holy just means WHOLLY with no flesh, bones, or blood.[/TD]
[TD]SPIRIT in Greek. Spirit can never define a PERSON but only the Mental Disposition or MIND OF That person[/TD]
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[TD="width: 40%"]H7306 rûach roo'-akh A primitive root;
properly to blow, that is, BREATHE;
only (literally) to smell or
(by implication perceive
(figuratively to anticipate, enjoy):—
accept, smell, X touch,
make OF quick understanding.
nephesh From H5314 ; properly a BREATHING creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): MIND[/TD]
[TD="width: 40%"]G5594 psuchō psoo'-kho A primary verb; to BREATHE (voluntarily but gently; thus differing on the one hand from G4154 , which denotes properly a forcible respiration; and on the other from the base of G109 , which refers properly to an inanimate breeze), that is, (by implication of reduction of temperature by evaporation) to chill (figuratively):—wax cold.
G5590 psuchē psoo-khay' From G5594 ; BREATH, that is, (by implication) spirit, abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only; thus distinguished on the one hand from G4151, which is the rational and immortal soul; and on the other from G2222 , which is mere vitality, even of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew [ H5315 ], [ H7307 ] and [ H2416 ]:—heart life, mind, soul, + us, + you.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 40%"]H7307 rûach roo'-akh From H7306 ;
wind;
by resemblance BREATH,
that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation;
figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality;
by extension a region of the sky;
by resemblance spirit,
but only OF a rational being
(including its expression and functions):—
air, anger, blast, BREATHE, X cool, courage, mind,
tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y).[/TD]
[TD]G4151 pneuma pnyoo'-mah From G4154 ;
a current of air,
that is, BREATH (blast) or a breeze;
by analogy or figuratively a spirit,
that is, (human) the rational soul,
(by implication) vital principle,
mental disposition,
or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or
(divine) God, [God IS Spirit or Mind]
Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit:—ghost, life,
spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590
G4154 pneō pneh'-o A primary word; to BREATHE hard,
that is, breeze:—blow. Compare G5594 [/TD]
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[TD]The Spirit OF Christ BREATHED or INSpirited the Prophets.
The Prophets radically repudiated the Civil-Military-Clergy complex as robbers and Parasites (PARASITE defines religious instrument noise makers such as Miriam and the Levites. And those who do NOT speak that which HAS been taught.
Christ in the prophets warned about the mercinary prophets who stole words from workshops and told lies.[/TD]
[TD]God made Jesus TO BE both Lord and Christ so that He said My WORDS are SPIRIT. He made the prophecies more certain and the inspired writers left us a memory or THEIR PART.
Peter said this eye-- and ear-- witnessed record is NOT subject to private interpretation or further expounding.
Peter said that the MARK of a false teacher is one who does not speak that which is written for our LEARNING.[/TD]
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Spirit NEVER speaks of a People: evil spirits are daemons or demons. My spirit is NOT another person inside of me.
Spirit literally means ONLY WIND: in a figurative sense it means the BREATH of God. Breath is how God transfers WORDS so that we don't trust people who claim supernatural power.
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[TD]SPIRIT in Hebrew. Holy just means WHOLLY with no flesh, bones, or blood.[/TD]
[TD]SPIRIT in Greek. Spirit can never define a PERSON but only the Mental Disposition or MIND OF That person[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 40%"]H7306 rûach roo'-akh A primitive root;
properly to blow, that is, BREATHE;
only (literally) to smell or
(by implication perceive
(figuratively to anticipate, enjoy):—
accept, smell, X touch,
make OF quick understanding.
nephesh From H5314 ; properly a BREATHING creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): MIND[/TD]
[TD="width: 40%"]G5594 psuchō psoo'-kho A primary verb; to BREATHE (voluntarily but gently; thus differing on the one hand from G4154 , which denotes properly a forcible respiration; and on the other from the base of G109 , which refers properly to an inanimate breeze), that is, (by implication of reduction of temperature by evaporation) to chill (figuratively):—wax cold.
G5590 psuchē psoo-khay' From G5594 ; BREATH, that is, (by implication) spirit, abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only; thus distinguished on the one hand from G4151, which is the rational and immortal soul; and on the other from G2222 , which is mere vitality, even of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew [ H5315 ], [ H7307 ] and [ H2416 ]:—heart life, mind, soul, + us, + you.[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="width: 40%"]H7307 rûach roo'-akh From H7306 ;
wind;
by resemblance BREATH,
that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation;
figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality;
by extension a region of the sky;
by resemblance spirit,
but only OF a rational being
(including its expression and functions):—
air, anger, blast, BREATHE, X cool, courage, mind,
tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y).[/TD]
[TD]G4151 pneuma pnyoo'-mah From G4154 ;
a current of air,
that is, BREATH (blast) or a breeze;
by analogy or figuratively a spirit,
that is, (human) the rational soul,
(by implication) vital principle,
mental disposition,
or (superhuman) an angel, daemon, or
(divine) God, [God IS Spirit or Mind]
Christ’s spirit, the Holy spirit:—ghost, life,
spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare G5590
G4154 pneō pneh'-o A primary word; to BREATHE hard,
that is, breeze:—blow. Compare G5594 [/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]The Spirit OF Christ BREATHED or INSpirited the Prophets.
The Prophets radically repudiated the Civil-Military-Clergy complex as robbers and Parasites (PARASITE defines religious instrument noise makers such as Miriam and the Levites. And those who do NOT speak that which HAS been taught.
Christ in the prophets warned about the mercinary prophets who stole words from workshops and told lies.[/TD]
[TD]God made Jesus TO BE both Lord and Christ so that He said My WORDS are SPIRIT. He made the prophecies more certain and the inspired writers left us a memory or THEIR PART.
Peter said this eye-- and ear-- witnessed record is NOT subject to private interpretation or further expounding.
Peter said that the MARK of a false teacher is one who does not speak that which is written for our LEARNING.[/TD]
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If you HEAR a spirit or SEE a spirit or see something WRITTEN by ba finger worry a lot. I don't know any other organ God has given to use to communicate. God said that the imagination of man is only evil continually.
When Paul SAW and HEARD Jesus who was in SPIRIT form. Jesus promised to guide Paul into all truth as He promised to guide the other apostles into all truth.
Acts 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
Acts 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet:
.....for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose,
.....to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen,
.....and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
Acts 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. [this defines baptism]
Acts 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Notice in 1 Corinthians 2 that the YOU do not know anything
But WE have received the Spirit OF God or the Mind OF Christ.
Paul is always careful to separate the WE (apostles) from the YOU we are sent to speak what Jesus commanded US to preach to YOU.
The pattern is that if a spirit SPEAKS to you be careful because the Jesus Pattern was to APPEAR TO and let the Apostles HEAR His Voice. If you think anything about a "trinity" which is polytheism it is only because you have heard it said. Jesus said that the Spirit (Meaning I will come to you) will speak ONLY what it heard from Jesus in the flesh and Jesus spoke only what God BREATHED into Him. Neither Jesus nor HIS Spirit led anyone to deny the clear statement:
There is ONE GOD THE FATHER
And One Lord Jesus of Nazareth whom GOD MADE TO BE both Lord and Christ.
There is only ONE MEDIATOR between God and man, the MAN Jesus Christ. If you imagine something don't trust it unless the MAN JESUS appears to you and tells you something. Then, don't trust it.
When Paul SAW and HEARD Jesus who was in SPIRIT form. Jesus promised to guide Paul into all truth as He promised to guide the other apostles into all truth.
Acts 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
Acts 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet:
.....for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose,
.....to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen,
.....and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
Acts 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. [this defines baptism]
Acts 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Notice in 1 Corinthians 2 that the YOU do not know anything
But WE have received the Spirit OF God or the Mind OF Christ.
Paul is always careful to separate the WE (apostles) from the YOU we are sent to speak what Jesus commanded US to preach to YOU.
The pattern is that if a spirit SPEAKS to you be careful because the Jesus Pattern was to APPEAR TO and let the Apostles HEAR His Voice. If you think anything about a "trinity" which is polytheism it is only because you have heard it said. Jesus said that the Spirit (Meaning I will come to you) will speak ONLY what it heard from Jesus in the flesh and Jesus spoke only what God BREATHED into Him. Neither Jesus nor HIS Spirit led anyone to deny the clear statement:
There is ONE GOD THE FATHER
And One Lord Jesus of Nazareth whom GOD MADE TO BE both Lord and Christ.
There is only ONE MEDIATOR between God and man, the MAN Jesus Christ. If you imagine something don't trust it unless the MAN JESUS appears to you and tells you something. Then, don't trust it.
Who is God?
Who is Savior?
Titus 2.13
προσδεχομενοι την μακαριαν ελπιδα και επιφανειαν της δοξης του μεγαλου θεου και σωτηρος ημων χριστου ιησου
Looking for the blessed hope and appearance of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
2 Peter 1.1
σιμων πετρος δουλος και αποστολος ιησου χριστου τοις ισοτιμον ημιν λαχουσιν πιστιν εν δικαιοσυνη του θεου ημων και σωτηρος ιησου χριστου
Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those equally precious with us, having obtained faith in the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:
Greek grammar mandates that Jesus is both God and Savior in the above verses.
Jesus is the God-man.
Jesus is the Savior man.
Thus, when we come to your example, we can easily see that God and Savior both apply to Jesus.
Further, ‘Truth’ also applies to Jesus.
Your example establishes that Jesus is both God and man.
He is the God-man, as thus…
1 Tim 2.3 - 5
For this is good and acceptable before God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to a full knowledge of Truth. For God is one, also there is one Mediator of God and of men, the Man Christ Jesus,
I asked my the preacher at church tonight and he said that we are Monotheists. That there is only one God that takes different forms (paraphrase). He said, "One being, different forms." I will think about this some more, but I have never thought of God in this way. I have always thought of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as different beings with the same goal.
Yes...Jesus IS God...
God came in the flesh ALL the way through the OT, brother!
Where have you been...?
That is how some NT Jews knew IMMEDIATELY that they were in the presence of God, Himself, when they encountered Jesus.
The ones that did NOT know their scriptures (like you) remained in a state of complete and utter ignorance.
Jesus IS God on the merits of the established rules of Greek grammar, all by itself, brother.
Thus...if you deny that Jesus is God, it is because of your jaded un unsupported worldview...
God came in the flesh ALL the way through the OT, brother!
Where have you been...?
That is how some NT Jews knew IMMEDIATELY that they were in the presence of God, Himself, when they encountered Jesus.
The ones that did NOT know their scriptures (like you) remained in a state of complete and utter ignorance.
Jesus IS God on the merits of the established rules of Greek grammar, all by itself, brother.
Thus...if you deny that Jesus is God, it is because of your jaded un unsupported worldview...