Jesus and the Bible

[Bowman]

You posted false English translations. The English translation I posted is the correct translation to the Arabic. The lie you said about having to know Arabic fluently is just that, a lie. There are verified translations by people who speak both languages and yours was incorrect.

Supposedly you're on the true path and you've been rendered to bring about false claims when it should be so easy to disprove Islam. How funny. You made my night

If you want to use other peoples translations, then you should be able to defend them.

So....again....

What Arabic word(s) are supposedly mistranslated?

 

[Sleepy]

If you want to use other peoples translations, then you should be able to defend them.

So....again....

What Arabic word(s) are supposedly mistranslated?

It's translations by scholars, not people's opinions like you inserted. Not anybody's opinions besides what is said.

 

[Sleepy]

Now if you want to get the accurate translations of the Quran than that is fine. But false ones, than that just makes you look like a fool. No intelligent person can consider you wise but rather a fool.

 

[Bowman]

Now if you want to get the accurate translations of the Quran than that is fine. But false ones, than that just makes you look like a fool. No intelligent person can consider you wise but rather a fool.

You're stalling.

Just admit that you are absolutely clueless when it comes to the original language of your book of faith.

Its nothing to be ashamed of, as 80% of all muslims don't know a lick about Arabic...

 

[Bowman]

Islam = the big lie!

Are we all in agreement?

 

[Bowman]

More truth...

The Holy Bible is required to correct & clarify the Koran in all manner of things.

 

[Angela53510]

What is there to study? The verses are clear. The verses from the Quran don't need to be argued because it is a Perfect Word of God. There is nothing in it that is flawed or subject to humans having to infer or strange ideas

So let's talk Trinity again, in light of this statement that the Qur'an is perfect.

Christians of all denominations, including Catholic and Eastern Orthodox to be:

The Father, the Son, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Although I do not speak Arabic like Bowman, I think the Qur'an clearly states:

"And behold! God will say: O Jesus the son of Mary didst say unto men, "Worship me and my mother as gods" in derogation of Allah" Surah 5:116

So since this is patently false, that Mary is NOT part of the Trinity, that Christ never said to worship his mother, because the Bible is quite clear that the Trinity is Father Son and Holy Spirit, this proves that the Qur'an is not perfect.

Since you say you believe in the Old Testament prophets, did you know the penalty for prophesying even ONE wrong thing?

Being put to death!

"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evilfrom your midst." Deut. 13:5

And this is from the Torah, which you claim to believe in.

So because Mohammed falsely put a claim into the Qur'an, his book of prophecy and dreams, it would only make sense that he should have been put to death and the Qur'an is proved false!

 

[Sleepy]

Once again a false statement. I read Arabic fluently and know many different translations. Do I speak fluently? No. Now should I learn someday yes.

The exact translation in Arabic is in Tagalog, Greek, Italian, English, Hebrew, Spanish an every other language and has been approved as accurate by numerous scholars that know Arabic and that particular language and by those who speak both as well.

The false words you posted have not wen written by any Muslim. They're false and your attempt to deceive the Christians on here is amusing because you can't find one single verse from the Quran that is worthy of criticism

 

[Bowman]

So let's talk Trinity again, in light of this statement that the Qur'an is perfect.

Christians of all denominations, including Catholic and Eastern Orthodox to be:

The Father, the Son, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Although I do not speak Arabic like Bowman, I think the Qur'an clearly states:

"And behold! God will say: O Jesus the son of Mary didst say unto men, "Worship me and my mother as gods" in derogation of Allah" Surah 5:116

So since this is patently false, that Mary is NOT part of the Trinity, that Christ never said to worship his mother, because the Bible is quite clear that the Trinity is Father Son and Holy Spirit, this proves that the Qur'an is not perfect.

Since you say you believe in the Old Testament prophets, did you know the penalty for prophesying even ONE wrong thing?

Being put to death!

"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evilfrom your midst." Deut. 13:5

And this is from the Torah, which you claim to believe in.

So because Mohammed falsely put a claim into the Qur'an, his book of prophecy and dreams, it would only make sense that he should have been put to death and the Qur'an is proved false!

5.116 & 5.117 simply clarify what the Trinity is not.

What better way to demonstrate what it is, than to show clear-cut examples of what it is not...

 

[Bowman]

Once again a false statement. I read Arabic fluently and know many different translations. Do I speak fluently? No. Now should I learn someday yes.

The exact translation in Arabic is in Tagalog, Greek, Italian, English, Hebrew, Spanish an every other language and has been approved as accurate by numerous scholars that know Arabic and that particular language and by those who speak both as well.

The false words you posted have not wen written by any Muslim. They're false and your attempt to deceive the Christians on here is amusing because you can't find one single verse from the Quran that is worthy of criticism

No.

If you did, then you should be able to show the Arabic word(s) in question and how they were supposedly mistranslated.

 

[Sleepy]

So let's talk Trinity again, in light of this statement that the Qur'an is perfect.

Christians of all denominations, including Catholic and Eastern Orthodox to be:

The Father, the Son, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Although I do not speak Arabic like Bowman, I think the Qur'an clearly states:

"And behold! God will say: O Jesus the son of Mary didst say unto men, "Worship me and my mother as gods" in derogation of Allah" Surah 5:116

So since this is patently false, that Mary is NOT part of the Trinity, that Christ never said to worship his mother, because the Bible is quite clear that the Trinity is Father Son and Holy Spirit, this proves that the Qur'an is not perfect.

Since you say you believe in the Old Testament prophets, did you know the penalty for prophesying even ONE wrong thing?

Being put to death!

"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evilfrom your midst." Deut. 13:5

And this is from the Torah, which you claim to believe in.

So because Mohammed falsely put a claim into the Qur'an, his book of prophecy and dreams, it would only make sense that he should have been put to death and the Qur'an is proved false!

Another false translation of the Quran.
Why don't you try to get accurate ones or are you too scared? Haha.

And God never said if Jesus said to take him and his mom as deities. He's going to ask him that. No where once in that verse did it sugges anything about Christianity beliefs so you're false once again

 

[Sleepy]

No.

If you did, then you should be able to show the Arabic word(s) in question and how they were supposedly mistranslated.

I would bother to do so if I knew there was someone wise and objective I was speaking to

Not someone who has only spouted lies. I know some good Christians ands clear your not someone who even uses logic and truth instead of someone who creates false translations because you can't find anything wrong with the real ones! Hana

 

[Sleepy]

Where are the at least intelligent Christians at?

So far I've gotten lower tier people who have been left to get false translations instead of actual ones..which is just weird

 

[Bowman]

I would bother to do so if I knew there was someone wise and objective I was speaking to

Not someone who has only spouted lies. I know some good Christians ands clear your not someone who even uses logic and truth instead of someone who creates false translations because you can't find anything wrong with the real ones! Hana

Can you agree that the Holy Bible is required to correct and clarify your Koran?

 

[Angela53510]

For someone who is a guest and a stranger in our Christian forum, perhaps you should tone it down a bit, and stop calling everyone else false. I got that out of my copy of the Qur'an, and I assume it is correct, and Bowman confirms that.

Of course, if you want to leave our Christian forum, which you came into to try and make converts, that is ok with me.

I just have one question for you. This comes from genuine curiosity or even ignorance, I confess.

Do Muslim get brownie points like Jehovah's Witnesses for coming into Christian forums and trying to push their religion on us? I mean brownie points for going to heaven or paradise or wherever, since you can never be sure where you stand with the inscrutable Allah!

I was just wondering because I spent two months in a Muslim forum, learning who the people were and what they believed, and having them shove link after link about women who converted to Islam. Now it was for a course in World Religions, but I thought it was only respectful to learn about Muslims without condemning them or trying to convert them from the first post.

PS. Thank you Jesus for saving my soul, and letting me rest peacefully in the knowledge of your grace and mercy in saving me by dying on the cross and rising from the dead!

 

[Sleepy]

Can you agree that the Holy Bible is required to correct and clarify your Koran?

The Bibke was corrupted. It was originally Gid's word corrupts by people such as Paul and various Kings. The Quran is the final word of God


Muslims pray as Jesus did
Mary covered her hair( Hijab) which is the attire that all righteous and modest women will have.

Muslims love Jesus and Mary more than Christians!

 

[Deadtosin]

Sleepy, who brought you to the quran?

 

[Sleepy]

For someone who is a guest and a stranger in our Christian forum, perhaps you should tone it down a bit, and stop calling everyone else false. I got that out of my copy of the Qur'an, and I assume it is correct, and Bowman confirms that.

Of course, if you want to leave our Christian forum, which you came into to try and make converts, that is ok with me.

I just have one question for you. This comes from genuine curiosity or even ignorance, I confess.

Do Muslim get brownie points like Jehovah's Witnesses for coming into Christian forums and trying to push their religion on us? I mean brownie points for going to heaven or paradise or wherever, since you can never be sure where you stand with the inscrutable Allah!

I was just wondering because I spent two months in a Muslim forum, learning who the people were and what they believed, and having them shove link after link about women who converted to Islam. Now it was for a course in World Religions, but I thought it was only respectful to learn about Muslims without condemning them or trying to convert them from the first post.

PS. Thank you Jesus for saving my soul, and letting me rest peacefully in the knowledge of your grace and mercy in saving me by dying on the cross and rising from the dead!

Angela it's clear there's anger and hate in your tone. Like I stated in my post i only come here to arrive at what's true. No brownie points. I'm here in my own to discuss and live in tolerance and peace. Obviously that doesn't sit well with you.

 

[Tintin]

Sleepy, stop being a troll. You have no right to preach such nonsense in a Christian forum or to be so rude. You've met intelligent Christians and because you don't agree with what they say, you call them stupid. That's juvenile, grow up!

 

[Bowman]

The Bibke was corrupted. It was originally Gid's word corrupts by people such as Paul and various Kings.

Not according to the Koran.

The Quran is the final word of God

Not according to the Koran, itself...

Muslims pray as Jesus did

You already said that Jesus prayed to Himself....thus, Muslims pray to themselves?!