Jesus, King of the Jews

[JaumeJ]

What does your denomination of mine have to do with the topic?

I have already confessed I am of the faith of Abraham as taught by our Master, Jesus Christ, and when I call Him Master, I mean my Teacher, the greatTeacher also called in the Word, Rabboni.

You do not want to know about my upbringing because it would fill volumes on church attendance alone.

1. I grew up in a charismatic church
2. Then we moved to a church called "Christian assemblies" that have roots in German Die Brüderbewegung and are related to plymouth brethren or Darby.
3. Then I attended Silesian Lutheran Church and Czech Brethren Church.
4. Now I am without a local church, too, but my priorities in faith are still in some kind of concordance with others.

 

[trofimus]

What does your denomination of mine have to do with the topic?

I have already confessed I am of the faith of Abraham as taught by our Master, Jesus Christ, and when I call Him Master, I mean my Teacher, the greatTeacher also called in the Word, Rabboni.

You do not want to know about my upbringing because it would fill volumes on church attendance alone.

In my opinion, your and Blik view of reality is so far away from general Christianity that I was wondering what church you are related to. Now I know that to none.

To study is a great thing. But when we will get to a wrong source, we will not be corrected by others. That was my point.

 

[graceNpeace]

And still, life in Australia is so much more peaceful and safer than in SA....

Australia did not have a civil war for several decades!
In Australia unemployment is about 5-6%, in South Africa 40-50%
Australia's economy is growing, South Africa's economy is shrinking.
Australia has world-class education and healthcare, South Africa - good for the rich, almost non-existent for the poor.
Australia has an extensive welfare system, South Africa is trying to institute a welfare system that is doomed to failure due to issues already mentioned.
Australia has policing and court and penal systems that actually work, South Africa - the less said the better

In my opinion, the fact that South Africa has such a high proportion of Bible-believing Christians is preventing much worse chaos...

 

[JaumeJ]

You are efectively changing the direction of this OP.......Jesus Christ King of the Jews.

Now perhaps you may understand your post here is insulting for any in the Body of Christ.

I am able to and have fellowshipped with Full Gospel, Charismatic, Baptist, and more but not a one of them is the shurch of Jesus christ, for His is all who believ eHim and I fellowship every day, unlikethose who occasion a church assembly or come into the forums to disrupt the themes of posts........

Now either stay on topic or just donot stay, ths is an invitation.

 

[graceNpeace]

All right lets go to your OP:
Who are all these people that believe that Jesus Christ was teaching and spreading His gospel in Greek?
I am fascinated to know....
Personally I know no one who believes this - not even non-Christian associates.

You have done some research perhaps to back up this statement - a published journal article detailing your findings....

Here is a question I posted about the OP: go ahead and answer it...

 

[Blik]

You are blessed with a long life. Please, revise your priorities. Hebrew language is not what is "extremely important for Christians to know".

Whole the New Testament is written in Greek and even to know Greek is not extremely important. Only our faith in His forgiveness, our good deeds and inner transformation to be a better being.

I have given over my priorities to God. He created me and created the world I live in. Very soon I will go to live in a different world with different values. In this world I am careful to listen to God for my values and that takes special care. I must stay away from religions with their interpretations and devote myself entirely to scripture. I must sweep away all men's ideas so I only hear and accept the truth of the Lord.

Today, with the history of demons sweeping away pure God in devious ways, this is not easy. I try to do this. I feel sure this includes learning about the Hebrew language God speaks to us in.

Even the thinking connected to the culture expressed by these languages is different. Hebrew expresses thoughts on many levels, Greek on only one level.

 

[graceNpeace]

Even the thinking connected to the culture expressed by these languages is different. Hebrew expresses thoughts on many levels, Greek on only one level.

And your evidence for this is, what?

 

[trofimus]

To the topic - Jews never accepted Jesus as their king.

The only nation in the world that made Jesus their official king is Poland, as far as I know.

 

[graceNpeace]

To the topic - Jews never accepted Jesus as their king.

The only nation in the world that made Jesus their official king is Poland, as far as I know.

Of course, if you are a Hebrew Roots dude, it doesn't really matter now does it...

 

[JaumeJ]

A true Jew is one who praise God, Yahweh. This would include all who truly believe Jesus Christ Who not only praised Yahweh but was made King of all Jews......stay on topic now, ,please.

To the topic - Jews never accepted Jesus as their king.

The only nation in the world that made Jesus their official king is Poland, as far as I know.

 

[JaumeJ]

One important question to you since you have allJews on trial......Who do you suppose were the first to believe Jesus Christ, Yeshua?

Who were the caretakers of God's Word until the advent of Jesus Christ, Yeshua?

I must consider the possibility that you just hate Jews who are so by blood, and this is contrary to the teaching of the Gospel, so I will not ignore your posts since you come in feigning interest only to insult those who are truly following the theme in earnest. God bless you where ever you are,and may your tolerance of people outside yoru denomination become great and real, amen.

To the topic - Jews never accepted Jesus as their king.

The only nation in the world that made Jesus their official king is Poland, as far as I know.

 

[trofimus]

A true Jew is one who praise God, Yahweh. This would include all who truly believe Jesus Christ Who not only praised Yahweh but was made King of all Jews......stay on topic now, ,please.

Then you just said that Jesus is the king of the Church. Nothing related to Hebrew language, Israel´ traditions etc.

 

[graceNpeace]

A true Jew is one who praise God, Yahweh. This would include all who truly believe Jesus Christ Who not only praised Yahweh but was made King of all Jews......stay on topic now, ,please.

If Jesus is only the King of the Jews then He is NOT the God that I serve...
Happily, though, He is Lord of all creation, currently seated at the right hand of the Father, and I can worship Him as He truly is,
Lord of Lords and King of Kings...

 

[trofimus]

One important question to you since you have allJews on trial......Who do you suppose were the first to believe Jesus Christ, Yeshua?

Who were the caretakers of God's Word until the advent of Jesus Christ, Yeshua?

I must consider the possibility that you just hate Jews who are so by blood, and this is contrary to the teaching of the Gospel, so I will not ignore your posts since you come in feigning interest only to insult those who are truly following the theme in earnest. God bless you where ever you are,and may your tolerance of people outside yoru denomination become great and real, amen.

First to believe in Jesus were Jews, some Romans, some Samaritans etc.

After the Christianity spread throughout the world, genetic Jews have become insignificant minority in Christianity.

Your point was...?

 

[graceNpeace]

One important question to you since you have allJews on trial......Who do you suppose were the first to believe Jesus Christ, Yeshua?

Who were the caretakers of God's Word until the advent of Jesus Christ, Yeshua?

I must consider the possibility that you just hate Jews who are so by blood, and this is contrary to the teaching of the Gospel, so I will not ignore your posts since you come in feigning interest only to insult those who are truly following the theme in earnest. God bless you where ever you are,and may your tolerance of people outside yoru denomination become great and real, amen.

You just cannot help yourself can you - as soon as anyone disagrees with you, they are either ignorant or an anti-Semite!

You are 73 years old, and you still need to grow up!

 

[Endoscopy]

I beg all to forgive my failure in patience and
longsuffering.

The intent of my post is mutual benefiting from expansion on the Word in the way of meanings of words not fully translated.

Jesus, King of the Jews. The title was inscribed above His head in three languages, Hebrew, dLatin, and Greek.

Pontius Pilate wwas begged by Jewish leaders to change the title to "He said He was King of the Jews," to which Pontius Pilate replied, "What I have written, I have written."

Pilate had been warned by his wife to have nothing to do with Jesus Christ for she has a dream and was "much troubled" by it.

Pilate replied to the Jews such because, as in other instances in the Word, he had prophesied unawares.

Jesus, Yeshua, is indeed King of Praisers of Yah (God).

He is your King and mine, providing we keep the faith......pay attention, we must keep the faith.

Nothingabout the crucifixion of our blessed Savior is left to happenstance, there is design in the entire recounting
of this story.

OUr Gather, god, is amazing in how He tells us all everything in so many ways. Praise and worship God, He, and only He,is worthy.,

Ssheep of teh pasture, I pray you hear the voice of Jesus Christ within these words, amen.

The reason why I use the AMPC for study is it includes the different meanings to the original language words. Cumbersome but added meaning. Here is John 3 :16 in several translations. Notice the fuller meaning in AMPC.

John 3:16 KJV
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16 NIV
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:16 ESV
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3 AMPC Amplified Classic
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.

 

[so-jesus-e-deus]

Why do so many believe Jesus Christ was teacing and spreding His gospel in Greek?

I question if the New Testament was written in Greek. After all, considering that the Hebrews valorized their language (Acts 22.2), why the writer of the Hebrews' epistle would write it in Greek?

 

[Nehemiah6]

I question if the New Testament was written in Greek. After all, considering that the Hebrews valorized their language (Acts 22.2), why the writer of the Hebrews' epistle would write it in Greek?

Simple answer: Because God told him to. Greek had become the language of the Mediterranean world at that time (just like English today is the language of the world). So for the Gospel to have maximum impact, it was in Greek. And God also anticipated that the Church would primarily be Gentile.

 

[pottersclay]

Wow I really don't think anyone has grasped the meaning here of "King of the Jews" and why it was written.
Do you seriously think that Rome along with Egypt and the rest of the nation's were ignorant of the hebrew faith?
This sign that was written was more than a mockery. It was more than a scorn to the high priest of the Jews at the time.
It was also seen as a warning that Rome had killed the promised Messiah of the Jews. That the gods of Rome were the Victor's over this hebrew god.
Your Christian faith is rooted deep into the old testament. We gentiles first worshipped in the temple. The outer court. Egypt did not forget brother Moses and all his works. Quite ironic that Joseph and Mary took refuged in a land that once enslaved the Jews wouldn't you think? In the time of the innocence were slayed?
Jesus is that King of the Jews that the Jews warned would come and free his people and restore order. They rejected the suffering Messiah which had to come first.

In the days of Jesus Hebrew language was spoken in the temple. Much of the common Jews knew little or none. Aramaic was the language of the day. Jesus knew both. The practice that the rcc did with latin was parroted by what the priest and rabbi did in Jesus day.
Sermon on the mount gives us a clue to this when Jesus says "you have heard this siad ...but I say to you. He was not changing scripture but telling the truth of what was written.

 

[JaumeJ]

In all honesty, I do believe any version of the Holy Scriptures is suitable as long as the reader is led by the Holy Spirit.

Having said this, it is true that one peron will derive more meaning to specific words from one version tha from another after learning the meaning of any given sentence or phrae.

As I believe the Scriptures opened up to me more in learning the meanings of certain names as fully translated from the Hebrew, somost do the same simply reading in their own native tongue in the version they prefer.

Thanks for sharing ........j

The reason why I use the AMPC for study is it includes the different meanings to the original language words. Cumbersome but added meaning. Here is John 3 :16 in several translations. Notice the fuller meaning in AMPC.

John 3:16 KJV
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16 NIV
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:16 ESV
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3 AMPC Amplified Classic
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.