Jesus, King of the Jews

[JaumeJ]

I have responded to someone else according to his question directed at me. What are you doing here acting as though you kno what has transpired? Oh, right, you follow me around at times. Usually saying I have said somehting, typing it out and putting itin quotes because you do not have a true reference, just your allegation..sad case.

What you did is just one more time rove you have no moral guidance, you lied about what someone said and refuse to confess it ebpven when it is shown to you


He did not say jesus ONLY spoke Greek, he said jesus would have known and spoken greek, as well as aramaic and other languages,

Yet you refuse to acknowledge you screwed up and misunderstood him.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have responded to someone else according to his question directed at me. What are you doing here acting as though you kno what has transpired? Oh, right, you follow me around at times. Usually saying I have said somehting, typing it out and putting itin quotes because you do not have a true reference, just your allegation..sad case.

Lol, get over yourself man, all you have to do is look at the last two pages for proof.

i do not need to follow you around to prove what your doing, you do it to yourself and everyone sees it.

are you going to ask forgiveness for mistepresenting what a brother said, or keep bashing people who try to show you what your doing?

 

[JaumeJ]

It is only in modern times we have teh concept of names, in Old Testament days, people were given titles such as Daniel, meaning El is judge. Michael..one who is like El(God). Jaco... supplanter. Abraham..Honored father of nations and so on and so forth.

It is only today when people "name" their children. I am sure you understand this If not my understanding is not baed on words written that kill, my understanding is by the Holy Spirit...in faith.

Your ideas are not based on the Bible. Whole the inspired New Testament uses Greek and Iésús for Jesus.

If its not "His name", then we have a real contradiction between your ideas and apostolic authors.

 

[JaumeJ]

Zep 3:9


(ABP+) ForG3754 thenG5119 I will transferG3344 uponG1909 the peoplesG2992 one tongueG1100 forG1519 her generation,G1074 G1473 G3588 for all to call uponG1941 G3956 theG3588 nameG3686 of the lord ,G2962 G3588 to serveG1398 himG1473 underG5259 [2yokeG2218 1one].G1520


(ASV) For then will I turn to the peoples of a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of Jehovah, to serve him with one consent.


(Brenton) For then will I turn to the peoples a tongue for her generation, that all may call on the name of the Lord, to serve him under one yoke.


(CEV) I will purify each language and make those languages acceptable for praising me. Then, with hearts united, everyone will serve only me, the LORD.


(Darby) For then will I turn to the peoples a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of Jehovah, to serve him with one consent.


(DRB) Because then I will restore to the people a chosen lip, that all may call upon the name of the Lord, and may serve him with one shoulder.


(FDB) Car alors, je changerai la langue des peuples en une langue purifiée, pour qu'ils invoquent tous le nom de l'Éternel pour le servir d'un seul coeur.


(FLS) Alors je donnerai aux peuples des lèvres pures, Afin qu'ils invoquent tous le nom de l'Éternel, Pour le servir d'un commun accord.


(HOT) כי־אז אהפך אל־עמים שׂפה ברורה לקרא כלם בשׁם יהוה לעבדו שׁכם אחד׃


(HOT+) כיH3588 אזH227 אהפךH2015 אלH413 עמיםH5971 שׂפהH8193 ברורהH1305 לקראH7121 כלםH3605 בשׁםH8034 יהוהH3068 לעבדוH5647 שׁכםH7926 אחד׃H259


(HSB) כִּֽי־ H3588 ki- For אָ֛ז H227 'az then אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ H2015 'eh·Poch For then will I turn אֶל־ H413 'el- to עַמִּ֖ים H5971 'am·Mim to the people שָׂפָ֣ה H8193 sa·Fah language בְרוּרָ֑ה H1305 ve·ru·Rah; a pure לִקְרֹ֤א H7121 lik·Ro that they may all call כֻלָּם֙ H3605 chul·Lam all בְּשֵׁ֣ם H8034 be·Shem upon the name יְהוָ֔ה H3068 Yah·weh, of the LORD לְעָבְד֖וֹ H5647 le·'a·ve·Do to serve שְׁכֶ֥ם H7926 she·Chem consent אֶחָֽד׃ H259 'e·Chad. him with one


(HSB3) כִּֽי־ H3588 אָ֛ז H227 אֶהְפֹּ֥ךְ H2015 אֶל־ H413 עַמִּ֖ים H5971 שָׂפָ֣ה H8193 בְרוּרָ֑ה H1305 לִקְרֹ֤א H7121 כֻלָּם֙ H3605 בְּשֵׁ֣ם H8034 יְהוָ֔ה H3068 לְעָבְד֖וֹ H5647 שְׁכֶ֥ם H7926 אֶחָֽד׃ H259


(INR) Allora io trasformerò le labbra dei popoli in labbra pure, affinché tutti invochino il nome del SIGNORE, per servirlo di comune accordo.


(IRL) Poiché allora io muterò in labbra pure le labbra dei popoli, affinché tutti invochino il nome dell'Eterno, per servirlo di pari consentimento.


(ISV) Indeed, then I will return my people to a pure language so that they all may call upon the name of the LORD, serving him with a united will."


(JPS) For then will I turn to the peoples a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve Him with one consent.


(KJV) For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.


(KJV+) ForH3588 thenH227 will I turnH2015 toH413 the peopleH5971 a pureH1305 language,H8193 that they may allH3605 callH7121 upon the nameH8034 of the LORD,H3068 to serveH5647 him with oneH259 consent.H7926


(ROB) Atunci voi da popoarelor buze curate, ca toate să se roage Domnului şi cu râvnă să-I slujească Lui.


(SSE) Porque entonces volveré yo a los pueblos el lenguaje puro, para que todos invoquen el nombre del SEÑOR, para que de un solo consentimiento le sirvan.


(TKK) O zaman, birlikte bana yakarmaları, Omuz omuza bana hizmet etmeleri için, Halkların dudaklarını pak kılacağım.


(Vulgate) quia tunc reddam populis labium electum ut vocent omnes in nomine Domini et serviant ei umero uno


(Webster) For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

 

[JaumeJ]

You seem to be full of hatred and bitterness. By the Blood of the Lamb of god I adjure you to come out of it and be whole in Christ.

Lol, get over yourself man, all you have to do is look at the last two pages for proof.

i do not need to follow you around to prove what your doing, you do it to yourself and everyone sees it.

are you going to ask forgiveness for mistepresenting what a brother said, or keep bashing people who try to show you what your doing?

 

[graceNpeace]

It is only in modern times we have teh concept of names, in Old Testament days, people were given titles such as Daniel, meaning El is judge. Michael..one who is like El(God). Jaco... supplanter. Abraham..Honored father of nations and so on and so forth.

It is only today when people "name" their children. I am sure you understand this If not my understanding is not baed on words written that kill, my understanding is by the Holy Spirit...in faith.

Wow....
So in ancient times nobody had names then????

So Adam, Cain, Abel, Abraham, Isaac Jacob, Moses, Daniel, David, Solomon, Jesus, Peter, John, Paul - all figments of our imagination....
Boy, you really are a font of inspiration!!!!!

The fact that names had MEANING does not change the fact the they were names.

I think your distinction between "names" and "titles" is something you have cooked up.
There is no Biblical evidence for this and I have not come across this distinction in any historical or anthropological literature

 

[trofimus]

It is only in modern times we have teh concept of names, in Old Testament days, people were given titles such as Daniel, meaning El is judge. Michael..one who is like El(God). Jaco... supplanter. Abraham..Honored father of nations and so on and so forth.

It is only today when people "name" their children. I am sure you understand this If not my understanding is not baed on words written that kill, my understanding is by the Holy Spirit...in faith.

You have many opinions about things but no evidence. I have no idea why you conclude that to "name" children is a modern concept when even first children (Kain and Abel) were named...

The process of naming can differ (some cultures consider the meaning, in our culture we consider if we like how the name sounds), but I do not know what you are trying to prove.

Also, you are going away from my point that when apostlic authors used Greek names for God, it cannot be a wrong practice.

 

[JaumeJ]

You are not aware that Bethleham, the NAME of the city of our Lord's birth is actually a phrase, a prophecy, and it means House of Bread. Jesus said "I am the Bread from Heaven."

YOu probably do not know that David means Beloved. He was a King of Israel, but oft time David is a reference to the Beloved, Jesus Christ, especially when mention is made of the Throne of David (The Belove) wil last forever.

You probably do not get the conenction between the faith of Abraham and Abrahm maning Honored Fathe of nations....no
youi probably do not know the rest either.

NOw Jesus christ rebuke you also for you r plain and simple obstinance. You think if you repeat something that isuntrue enough others will believe you. I have a flash for you, only those who are lost can believe you , the saed will not be deceived for long.

Wow....
So in ancient times nobody had names then????

So Adam, Cain, Abel, Abraham, Isaac Jacob, Moses, Daniel, David, Solomon, Jesus, Peter, John, Paul - all figments of our imagination....
Boy, you really are a font of inspiration!!!!!

The fact that names had MEANING does not change the fact the they were names.

I think your distinction between "names" and "titles" is something you have cooked up.
There is no Biblical evidence for this and I have not come across this distinction in any historical or anthropological literature

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You seem to be full of hatred and bitterness. By the Blood of the Lamb of god I adjure you to come out of it and be whole in Christ.

You repent of your sins against others and your arrogance, and may e we can talk.

 

[graceNpeace]

You are not aware that Bethleham, the NAME of the city of our Lord's birth is actually a phrase, a prophecy, and it means House of Bread. Jesus said "I am the Bread from Heaven."

YOu probably do not know that David means Beloved. He was a King of Israel, but oft time David is a reference to the Beloved, Jesus Christ, especially when mention is made of the Throne of David (The Belove) wil last forever.

You probably do not get the conenction between the faith of Abraham and Abrahm maning Honored Fathe of nations....no
youi probably do not know the rest either.

NOw Jesus christ rebuke you also for you r plain and simple obstinance. You think if you repeat something that isuntrue enough others will believe you. I have a flash for you, only those who are lost can believe you , the saed will not be deceived for long.

Really, how would you know?

And in any case I think it is rather evident that I DO know these things given the fact that I said this' "The fact that names had MEANING does not change the fact the they were names."

It just seems to me that you are always trying to accuse people of ignorance when the sad fact is that all you are doing is just parading your own ignorance, writ large...

 

[JaumeJ]

The sin is on your head for following me into verious posts, my own and other. You are a weak person, only feeling stength in attmpting to overwhelm others by youf own obstinace. Jesus christ rebuke you for . By the Blood of Jesus Christ I say.

You repent of your sins against others and your arrogance, and may e we can talk.

 

[graceNpeace]

The sin is on your head for following me into verious posts, my own and other. You are a weak person, only feeling stength in attmpting to overwhelm others by youf own obstinace. Jesus christ rebuke you for . By the Blood of Jesus Christ I say.

I am sorry - you are not a victim here....

The violins must be playing again!

 

[JaumeJ]

Why do you keep it up? I have explained clearly how names have evolved from Biblical times, and how they can be prophecy and characteristics.


Your claim that that is Wow not very correct shows you are also simply posting words you either do not meanor you simply are not aware of what you are doing.

I have responded to two of your ridiculous accusations with your own posting and your own words, properly, and yet you come back contradicting even yourself. Why don't you get something positive todo with yuoelf, and do not claim the Blood of the Lamb until you are repented of your wickedness. You have inferred if not outright calle me a liar and/or stupid enough, and I suppose you feel a gre4at reward in so doign. Keep your friends coming it with allyour feigned intelligencia.....It amounts not even to a hill of beans you know.

Really, how would you know?

And in any case I think it is rather evident that I DO know these things given the fact that I said this' "The fact that names had MEANING does not change the fact the they were names."

It just seems to me that you are always trying to accuse people of ignorance when the sad fact is that all you are doing is just parading your own ignorance, writ large...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The sin is on your head for following me into verious posts, my own and other. You are a weak person, only feeling stength in attmpting to overwhelm others by youf own obstinace. Jesus christ rebuke you for . By the Blood of Jesus Christ I say.

Actually all i did was come in to see what thus thread was about, and sadly saw you falsly accuse a brother again.

The sin is on your head, and is deeper because you refuse to confess it.

You want to attack everyone and take the blame of yourself, no one is buying your hypocricy.

Continue as you were, but until you repent, no one can help you

 

[JaumeJ]

Have you figured it out that I quote you on saying Jesus Christ most likely spoke Greek, and how yor appraisal of my understanding of the evolution of modern day name has been? Both answoered to properly and accurately and both unrecognized by, guess who? You the one asking. Does this not say who and what you are....? It does for me. ow you and your little friend may continue all you like, but you are not goint to be hearing from me. And kplease

Do not come into theads I am in strictly to bash as your friend has many time in the past, you are both going into the darkness of ig.

I am sorry - you are not a victim here....

The violins must be playing again!

 

[graceNpeace]

Why do you keep it up? I have explained clearly how names have evolved from Biblical times, and how they can be prophecy and characteristics.


Your claim that that is Wow not very correct shows you are also simply posting words you either do not meanor you simply are not aware of what you are doing.

I have responded to two of your ridiculous accusations with your own posting and your own words, properly, and yet you come back contradicting even yourself. Why don't you get something positive todo with yuoelf, and do not claim the Blood of the Lamb until you are repented of your wickedness. You have inferred if not outright calle me a liar and/or stupid enough, and I suppose you feel a gre4at reward in so doign. Keep your friends coming it with allyour feigned intelligencia.....It amounts not even to a hill of beans you know.

LOL

Comedy hour has arrived!

Post before, I am ignorant!
This post, the problem now is that I am "feigned intelligencia"

Also, I would not be claiming any moral high ground if I were you - the OP of this thread is based on ridiculous lies, falsehoods, and generalisations that you have quite failed to substantiate!
That is why I called it a gigantic straw-man!!!!

Anybody who reads this thread will see just how sanctimonious and dishonest you are prepared to be to try and set your agenda....

 

[gb9]

Have you figured it out that I quote you on saying Jesus Christ most likely spoke Greek, and how yor appraisal of my understanding of the evolution of modern day name has been? Both answoered to properly and accurately and both unrecognized by, guess who? You the one asking. Does this not say who and what you are....? It does for me. ow you and your little friend may continue all you like, but you are not goint to be hearing from me. And kplease

Do not come into theads I am in strictly to bash as your friend has many time in the past, you are both going into the darkness of ig.

i'll say it again- when one has the same problem with different people- i.e.- you accusing many that you interact with of not understanding you, being ignorant, misreading our pots, making false accusations against you, then the issue is most likely the one, not the others.

think about that.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i'll say it again- when one has the same problem with different people- i.e.- you accusing many that you interact with of not understanding you, being ignorant, misreading our pots, making false accusations against you, then the issue is most likely the one, not the others.

think about that.

its even worse when the one doing th accusing is actually the person doing the doing,

hypocricy at its finest.

 

[JaumeJ]

I beg all to forgive my failure in patience and
longsuffering.

The intent of my post is mutual benefiting from expansion on the Word in the way of meanings of words not fully translated.

Jesus, King of the Jews. The title was inscribed above His head in three languages, Hebrew, dLatin, and Greek.

Pontius Pilate wwas begged by Jewish leaders to change the title to "He said He was King of the Jews," to which Pontius Pilate replied, "What I have written, I have written."

Pilate had been warned by his wife to have nothing to do with Jesus Christ for she has a dream and was "much troubled" by it.

Pilate replied to the Jews such because, as in other instances in the Word, he had prophesied unawares.

Jesus, Yeshua, is indeed King of Praisers of Yah (God).

He is your King and mine, providing we keep the faith......pay attention, we must keep the faith.

Nothingabout the crucifixion of our blessed Savior is left to happenstance, there is design in the entire recounting
of this story.

OUr Gather, god, is amazing in how He tells us all everything in so many ways. Praise and worship God, He, and only He,is worthy.

Ssheep of teh pasture, I pray you hear the voice of Jesus Christ within these words, amen.

 

[Blik]

It is only in modern times we have teh concept of names, in Old Testament days, people were given titles such as Daniel, meaning El is judge. Michael..one who is like El(God). Jaco... supplanter. Abraham..Honored father of nations and so on and so forth.

It is only today when people "name" their children. I am sure you understand this If not my understanding is not baed on words written that kill, my understanding is by the Holy Spirit...in faith.

It is extremely important for Christians to know that Hebrew is God's language. Each letter of Hebrew has a number meaning and a spiritual meaning. That is not true of any other language. Each person's name had a special meaning and a prophecy for that person based on the Hebrew language.

When God spoke to Paul scripture tells us God used Hebrew. Even scripture originally written in Greek were written by men whose original language was Hebrew so the Hebrew thinking shines through the Greek words.

Scripture is inspired by the Lord, but told to us through the minds of the minds of the men receiving it. That is why it is so important to learn the culture and way of thinking they lived with.

The Greek culture that language expresses is very different from the Hebrew culture that language expresses. It is a matter of life and death for us to understand God and to do that we must learn about the Hebrew language.