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The human language quite interesting indeed for there are many different languages and meanings in this world. take the English language for Sow,So,Sew all have different meanings. In scripture rather it be in English,Greek,Hebrew, or Swahili etc..
means something different to that person in their language this can be a endless debate indeed explaining meanings in different languages. though words to discribe can still have a sort of connection to the same concept no matter the language it is or not depending on what language you speak but for in Gods holy language is Non of above. we are given what we can handle in our own languages who ever you may be or speaking either today or yesterday.

Speaking on gender male or female, the words feminine or masculine it's a outward statement to discribe the human body that discribes male or female he or she. for if you exclude the human body and look at the inter human senses then you can start to understand who God is in a different light(energy). for the human senses are the same no matter if your male or female. When our soul leaves the body it leaves behind these identities of male or female yet we move on with most of these inter senses in the afterlife. For God is neither male or female nor neutral but a living, thinking, feeling, creating, energy spirit not titled with either male or female or a combo of both or just it. because these words discribe a human body trait which doesn't discribe the human senses. human senses are energy generated in thought form or in the human body.

We are sort of a flock of seagulls, there are a few species of seagulls that do have noticeable differents in male or female, but let's look at the common seagull outwardly it's hard to tell the differents between the two sexes basically this is a basic description of the human senses. Scripture also makes statements to discribe God in ways like the wind,breath,water,nature, for also people have struggled with the concept of energy they knew the sun in the sky was the sun but didn't know it's form what made it tick what made it be giving off heat. what the Sun is we now know today it's a nuclear reaction in a round shaped form a form of living energy.

now even what I say about energy doesn't fully discribe God in all his glory it doesn't even scratch the surface because I only have the language tools of today and yesterday but still it's basic concept of what living energy the spirit of God.
 

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The Holy Spirit is The very Power of God

15He hath made the earth (by his power), he hath established the world by his wisdom,
and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.

5I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, (by my great power)
and by my outstretched arm, (and have given it) (unto whom] it seemed meet unto me.

35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and (the power of the Highest) shall overshadow thee: therefore also
that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called (the Son of God).



Behold my servant, whom I uphold; (mine elect), in whom my soul delighteth;
I have put (my spirit upon him): he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor
strong drink; and he shall be (filled with) the Holy Ghost, (even from his mother's womb).

34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: (for God giveth)
(not the Spirit by measure) unto him.

-God gave Jesus His power, with no measure, even from the womb.




38Then Peter said unto them, [Repent], and [be baptized] every one of you
in the name of Jesus Christ for [the remission of sins], and ye shall receive
[the gift] of the Holy Ghost.


-the begetting agent that comes from God, the Holy Spirit
is the earnest or down payment, of our salvation (Ephesians 1:14; Romans 8:16).

now Christ Jesus is the Administrator of the spirit , the power of God.
-refere back to the parables of the pounds and talents, adminstered in portions given.
 
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Its says to Let's create mankind in our own image which means in our own likeness; the way it is in Heaven. But when Eve had taken that turn, it had caused everything to went out of alignment, because it is no longer aligned to the way that it is in heaven. Because the Holy mother is one with the Father, but the mother of the creations is not one with Adam.

Matthew 6:10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.


Now God is bringing them back to the way that it supposedly to of have been; aligned them back as the ways how its operates in heaven. When God has said let's make them in our own likeness, whom was He addressing it to? and its also says that the word was with God but then the word is God which means that he was addressing it to His subjects of this kingdom.

Elohim (Hebrew: אֱלֹהִים) is a grammatically plural noun for "gods" or "Deity" in Biblical Hebrew. In the modern it is often times referred to in the singular despite the -im ending that denotes plural masculine nouns in Hebrew.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2] [/SUP]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
 
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The human language quite interesting indeed for there are many different languages and meanings in this world. take the English language for Sow,So,Sew all have different meanings. In scripture rather it be in English,Greek,Hebrew, or Swahili etc..
means something different to that person in their language this can be a endless debate indeed explaining meanings in different languages. though words to discribe can still have a sort of connection to the same concept no matter the language it is or not depending on what language you speak but for in Gods holy language is Non of above. we are given what we can handle in our own languages who ever you may be or speaking either today or yesterday.

Speaking on gender male or female, the words feminine or masculine it's a outward statement to discribe the human body that discribes male or female he or she. for if you exclude the human body and look at the inter human senses then you can start to understand who God is in a different light(energy). for the human senses are the same no matter if your male or female. When our soul leaves the body it leaves behind these identities of male or female yet we move on with most of these inter senses in the afterlife. For God is neither male or female nor neutral but a living, thinking, feeling, creating, energy spirit not titled with either male or female or a combo of both or just it. because these words discribe a human body trait which doesn't discribe the human senses. human senses are energy generated in thought form or in the human body.

We are sort of a flock of seagulls, there are a few species of seagulls that do have noticeable differents in male or female, but let's look at the common seagull outwardly it's hard to tell the differents between the two sexes basically this is a basic description of the human senses. Scripture also makes statements to discribe God in ways like the wind,breath,water,nature, for also people have struggled with the concept of energy they knew the sun in the sky was the sun but didn't know it's form what made it tick what made it be giving off heat. what the Sun is we now know today it's a nuclear reaction in a round shaped form a form of living energy.

now even what I say about energy doesn't fully discribe God in all his glory it doesn't even scratch the surface because I only have the language tools of today and yesterday but still it's basic concept of what living energy the spirit of God.
You just went off the deep end with something that I didn't ask about. What does this have to do with my question?
 
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#85
The Holy Spirit is The very Power of God

15He hath made the earth (by his power), he hath established the world by his wisdom,
and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.

5I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, (by my great power)
and by my outstretched arm, (and have given it) (unto whom] it seemed meet unto me.

35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and (the power of the Highest) shall overshadow thee: therefore also
that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called (the Son of God).



Behold my servant, whom I uphold; (mine elect), in whom my soul delighteth;
I have put (my spirit upon him): he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor
strong drink; and he shall be (filled with) the Holy Ghost, (even from his mother's womb).

34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: (for God giveth)
(not the Spirit by measure) unto him.

-God gave Jesus His power, with no measure, even from the womb.




38Then Peter said unto them, [Repent], and [be baptized] every one of you
in the name of Jesus Christ for [the remission of sins], and ye shall receive
[the gift] of the Holy Ghost.


-the begetting agent that comes from God, the Holy Spirit
is the earnest or down payment, of our salvation (Ephesians 1:14; Romans 8:16).

now Christ Jesus is the Administrator of the spirit , the power of God.
-refere back to the parables of the pounds and talents, adminstered in portions given.
How abourt an answer to the actual question?
 
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Its says to Let's create mankind in our own image which means in our own likeness; the way it is in Heaven. But when Eve had taken that turn, it had caused everything to went out of alignment, because it is no longer aligned to the way that it is in heaven. Because the Holy mother is one with the Father, but the mother of the creations is not one with Adam.
In your mind are the Holy mother and the mother of the creations the same entity?
 
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In your mind are the Holy mother and the mother of the creations the same entity?
The mother of creation has the same spirit as the Holy mother that is making them one of the same. because it says that flesh counts for nothing, but what make the person is the spirit. Loving someone unconditionally is a motherly thing, and to sit down with them to train them very gently is only what most women can do, but a man has the masculine spirit, that isn't patient. But Moses has both spirit in him, the masculine and then feminine side about him in order for him to show strength at time and then humbled himself as the women has done in those times, and which that is a sign of submission.
 

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You just went off the deep end with something that I didn't ask about. What does this have to do with my question?
I was not trying to answer your question .

Now the post before me [basic concept of what living energy the spirit of God.]

Scripture also makes statements to discribe God in ways like the wind,breath,water,nature, for also people have struggled with the concept of energy they knew the sun in the sky was the sun but didn't know it's form what made it tick what made it be giving off heat. what the Sun is we now know today it's a nuclear reaction in a round shaped form a form of living energy.

now even what I say about energy doesn't fully discribe God in all his glory it doesn't even scratch
the surface because I only have the language tools of today and yesterday but still it's
[basic concept of what living energy the spirit of God.]

I tried to explain that the Holy spirit was the very power of God.



now if the Holy spirit was a person, Jesus would be called [the Son] of the holy spirit.
 
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The mother of creation has the same spirit as the Holy mother that is making them one of the same. because it says that flesh counts for nothing, but what make the person is the spirit. Loving someone unconditionally is a motherly thing, and to sit down with them to train them very gently is only what most women can do, but a man has the masculine spirit, that isn't patient. But Moses has both spirit in him, the masculine and then feminine side about him in order for him to show strength at time and then humbled himself as the women has done in those times, and which that is a sign of submission.
Are you Catholic? Your ideas are very gnostic.
 
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You just went off the deep end with something that I didn't ask about. What does this have to do with my question?
I apologize to you for saying something you wish to not hear.
 
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Are you Catholic? Your ideas are very gnostic.
The apostle weren't neither hellenistic jews or hebraic jews, they were all considered as one body. If someone that is led by the spirit, is not being led by a certain congregation or sect, but by the spirit; and the spirit is like that of the wind, you never know which way that it is going to blow you towards. But when a person hold onto a certain pattern isn't free-flowing as someone that is born of the spirit.


Acts 20:22 “And now, compelled by the Spirit, I am going to Jerusalem, not knowing what will happen to me there.

Romans 8:6The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.

Romans 8:14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

Romans 2:29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

1 Corinthians 2:10these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
 

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Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Fully God and fully man that is who Jesus is. Mary had no part in the fully God but did serve Jehovah in being a vessel into which Jehovah formed the body for Jesus Christ.

Interesting how some perceive Christ and His relationship to Mary. We all focus on the scene at the manger but are slow to see the cross that was His. Not unlike Israel who would not see Him as the promised Messiah despite the great and mighty works that He did to authenticate who He was.

For the cause of Christ
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Jezebel must have had a male spirit dominating her inners huh?
Exodus 33:3 Go up to the land flowing with milk and honey. But I will not go with you, because you are a stiff-necked people and I might destroy you on the way.”

Numbers 14:24 But because my servant Caleb has a different spirit and follows me wholeheartedly, I will bring him into the land he went to, and his descendants will inherit it.

A stiff neck person is referring as an stubborn ox, that doesn't submit to by the pulling on its reigns. But Joshua and Caleb has the spirit of submissiveness., a feminine spirit.
 
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Exodus 33:3 Go up to the land flowing with milk and honey. But I will not go with you, because you are a stiff-necked people and I might destroy you on the way.”

Numbers 14:24 But because my servant Caleb has a different spirit and follows me wholeheartedly, I will bring him into the land he went to, and his descendants will inherit it.

A stiff neck person is referring as an stubborn ox, that doesn't submit to by the pulling on its reigns. But Joshua and Caleb has the spirit of submissiveness., a feminine spirit.
In the image of God he made not them then?
 
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In the image of God he made not them then?
what image are we talking about?

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

I guess that Philip doesn't recognizes that Jesus beard was the same size of God's beard, and so Jesus has to be God by comparison by the flesh, not by the spirit; and or is it the other way around.
 
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1Cr 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses,

Thou
shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn.

Paul then asks...

Doth God take care for oxen?

1Cr 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes?

For our sakes, no doubt, this is written:

that he thatploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

And again in respects to Does God take care for oxen? He says...

1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

After which it follows again...

1Ti 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

An ass is sort of a stubborn one

Being unequally yoked is shown between an Ox and an Ass here

Duet 22:20 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together. Proverbs 26:3 the bridle is for the ass ! LOL

He also sent his disciples (as ox's) by two and two (which take upon them his yoke)

Luke 10:1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

Again,

Doth God take care for oxen?

1Cr 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes?

For our sakes, no doubt,
 
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what image are we talking about?

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

I guess that Philip doesn't recognizes that Jesus beard was the same size of God's beard, and so Jesus has to be God by comparison by the flesh, not by the spirit; and or is it the other way around.
I was talking about your female spirit deal

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
 
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1Cr 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses,

Thou
shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn.

Paul then asks...

Doth God take care for oxen?

1Cr 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes?

For our sakes, no doubt, this is written:

that he thatploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

And again in respects to Does God take care for oxen? He says...

1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

After which it follows again...

1Ti 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

An ass is sort of a stubborn one

Being unequally yoked is shown between an Ox and an Ass here

Duet 22:20 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together. Proverbs 26:3 the bridle is for the ass ! LOL

He also sent his disciples (as ox's) by two and two (which take upon them his yoke)

Luke 10:1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

Again,

Doth God take care for oxen?

1Cr 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes?

For our sakes, no doubt,
Stiff neck is sort of an metaphor of their spirit; but it isn't actually speaking of an oxen. Jesus said the the words that He has spoken is spirit. Like if I called someone a stubborn ole' mule, that I am not calling him a mule, but characterizing his nature.
 
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I was talking about your female spirit deal

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
Then that will contradict this verse :

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.