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So you as a Seventh Day Cultists, worships on the Sabbath? Good but....
So do you also have a box tied to your forehead?
..a box tied to your hand?
..a box on on your door posts? (I have one on my door post. Maybe I am keeping the law better than you?)
..do you wear clothing made of a single type of fiber? (mixed fiber clothing such as 80% cotton and 20% polyester is forbidden by God)
..do you search though your home for mold before you celebrate passover?
..do you wear four tassels from your clothing?
..would you sacrifice animals if the temple was open for that?
..do you ever pour gravy with milk in it over beef?
Well, if you are not, then how can you claim to be keeping the law? All the above is a part of the law and much much more. So if you do not do all of that down to the smallest detail, then you are not keeping the law.
So do you also have a box tied to your forehead?
..a box tied to your hand?
..a box on on your door posts? (I have one on my door post. Maybe I am keeping the law better than you?)
..do you wear clothing made of a single type of fiber? (mixed fiber clothing such as 80% cotton and 20% polyester is forbidden by God)
..do you search though your home for mold before you celebrate passover?
..do you wear four tassels from your clothing?
..would you sacrifice animals if the temple was open for that?
..do you ever pour gravy with milk in it over beef?
Well, if you are not, then how can you claim to be keeping the law? All the above is a part of the law and much much more. So if you do not do all of that down to the smallest detail, then you are not keeping the law.
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Dan,, Nowhere in the 4th Commandment does Any of those things you listed appear. Obviously, you do not know the 10 Commandments. Nor do you know the difference between the Law of Moses and the Law of God.
Dan,, did you know Jesus worshipped on the Sabbath Day? Luke 4:16 Do you also believe Jesus to be a cultist?
Dan,, did you know Jesus worshipped on the Sabbath Day? Luke 4:16 Do you also believe Jesus to be a cultist?
Keeping the commandments of God as per James indicates showing faith does not mean the 'revival' of the sacrificial system and related laws --- these were the ones (including related sabbaths but not 'the Sabbath') that were the 'bondage of the law' done away with as mentioned by Paul...
The 10 commandments in particular, reflect the Character of God. They are NOT BONDAGE, but FREEDOM...they are 'eternal principles' that will always exist - for without them there would be no fairness nor order --- this is what as I see it King David 'meditated on' when in the he bible says:
Psa 119:97 O how I love Your law! It is my meditation all the day.
Psa 119:98 Your commandments make me wiser than my enemies, For they are ever mine.
Psa 119:99 I have more insight than all my teachers, For Your testimonies are my meditation.
I don't believe he was 'meditating' on a bunch of rules and regulations that were 'bondage' as some put it, but understood how they reflected the Character and Nature of God...
In addition, regarding diet, the bible does speak of the New heaven and earth keeping the Sabbath day by 'all flesh' coming before Him, and that no-one that eats anything 'unclean' including swine or rat will come before Him...
Isa 66:17 "Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens, Following one in the center, Who eat swine's flesh, detestable things and mice, Will come to an end altogether," declares the LORD.
Isa 66:22 "For just as the new heavens and the new earth Which I make will endure before Me," declares the LORD, "So your offspring and your name will endure.
Isa 66:23 "And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me," says the LORD.
Clearly, this shows the Heart of God, and what He wants, and intends for Eternity with Him; so why go against that, and claim that the man Paul has given everyone 'license' to go against Gods Will and Desire for humanity - rather than what It 'truly is' --- even to the point of Eternity...
The 10 commandments in particular, reflect the Character of God. They are NOT BONDAGE, but FREEDOM...they are 'eternal principles' that will always exist - for without them there would be no fairness nor order --- this is what as I see it King David 'meditated on' when in the he bible says:
Psa 119:97 O how I love Your law! It is my meditation all the day.
Psa 119:98 Your commandments make me wiser than my enemies, For they are ever mine.
Psa 119:99 I have more insight than all my teachers, For Your testimonies are my meditation.
I don't believe he was 'meditating' on a bunch of rules and regulations that were 'bondage' as some put it, but understood how they reflected the Character and Nature of God...
In addition, regarding diet, the bible does speak of the New heaven and earth keeping the Sabbath day by 'all flesh' coming before Him, and that no-one that eats anything 'unclean' including swine or rat will come before Him...
Isa 66:17 "Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens, Following one in the center, Who eat swine's flesh, detestable things and mice, Will come to an end altogether," declares the LORD.
Isa 66:22 "For just as the new heavens and the new earth Which I make will endure before Me," declares the LORD, "So your offspring and your name will endure.
Isa 66:23 "And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me," says the LORD.
Clearly, this shows the Heart of God, and what He wants, and intends for Eternity with Him; so why go against that, and claim that the man Paul has given everyone 'license' to go against Gods Will and Desire for humanity - rather than what It 'truly is' --- even to the point of Eternity...
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Hebrews 4:3-11 KJV
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
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Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets
Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
In the days of the voice of the 7th angel the mystery of God will be finished which is Christ in us. Notice the texts before that the commandments are His, the testimony is His and the faith is His. Keeping the commandments then is about Christ in us and having the character of Christ.
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets
Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
In the days of the voice of the 7th angel the mystery of God will be finished which is Christ in us. Notice the texts before that the commandments are His, the testimony is His and the faith is His. Keeping the commandments then is about Christ in us and having the character of Christ.
Yahshua is the Lord of the Sabbath --- He is not under any law in the context of it coming from man; but rather the other way around; and --- except that of the Father in Heaven ... which is why He kept the Sabbath day ... it is 'more' than just a 'law' --- it is the 'rhythm of YHWH-God' and those that keep it, keep in His Rhythm - His cycle: which is 7 ... and become like Him ... via the Grace of Yahshua ...
...I would describe someone who does all they can not to do the Will of God and seek every means to escape it - using the words of a man in a skewed manner ie: of Paul, and yet appear 'justified' under Grace; as being in a state of disobedience to God --- in particular where it is wilful and not based in ignorance ...
But Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, did not attain to the law. Why's that? Because not by faith, but by works. They stumbled over the stone that causes people to stumble, just as it is written, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble, and a rock that causes them to fall, and the one who believes upon him will not be put to shame.” Romans 9:31-33
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Is there a person here who can keep the commandments. If you say yes. Then you are a liar and have failed the the test. If it were possible for a man to keep law, why do we need a savior? Although, we strive to obey it, it is impossible. It is in our nature to rely on our self, this breaks the command to worship God and Him only. We tend to worship our deeds. All have fallen short and no man can keep the law of God. That is why we must by faith, trust in the cross.
...have faith, trust in the cross --- and be disobedient to Gods Wishes ... is what is constantly being communicated ... with Paulian skewed theology...
...isn't that why Eve and Adam 'fell' ... they were in a perfect 'state of grace'..., and it was not dependent on someone dying for them, just so that they could have the excuse and convenience to be 'disobedient' to God, claiming 'Grace' at the expense of the Blood of the Lamb ... to negate Gods Will ... I don't believe that is why Yahshua died; just so others could ignore Gods Wishes and claim they have the 'ticket and licence of Grace' to do so ...
...isn't that why Eve and Adam 'fell' ... they were in a perfect 'state of grace'..., and it was not dependent on someone dying for them, just so that they could have the excuse and convenience to be 'disobedient' to God, claiming 'Grace' at the expense of the Blood of the Lamb ... to negate Gods Will ... I don't believe that is why Yahshua died; just so others could ignore Gods Wishes and claim they have the 'ticket and licence of Grace' to do so ...
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I am a gentile and have been given 1050 commands from the Lord in the New living testament.
Now the commands of Moses 2,713 and the rest of the Old letter of commands that pointed to sin and the remedy of sin the sarifices and ceremonies the types and shadows of the Son of God’s sacrifice for sin 113,000 commands. Now I need my brethren’s encouragement and reproof and gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit to grow in the power of the Lord Jesus' Holy Spirit to be quickened and make them my natural response. So again 1050 commands of the Lord Jesus Christ to me a gentile. Let’s start for they in themselves cannot be done without the Holy Spirit quickening them in me.
The Laws of Moses Abolished Acts 15:24.
Starting the commands of the Lord Jesus in the New Living Testament as follows;
7 abstains; idols, fornication, strangles meats, eating blood, meats offered to idols acts15.
All appearances of evil 1 Th. 5:22, fleshly lusts 1 Pt.2:11.
Avoidances:
Trouble makers Ro. 16:17, Profane vain babblings 1 Tim 6:20. False Science.
Unlearned Questions 2 Tim 2:27. Foolish Questions Titus 3:9, Genealogies along with arguing about the Law.
Asks;
Ask and you shall receive Mt.7:7, ask no return of goods Luke6:30, ask life for the backslider 1 John 5:16.
Awakes; to righteousness 1 Corth. 15:34, awake to life Eph. 5:14
Now this is a start and there are 1031 more, why are not we discussing the other 1031 or even the 19 listed? These are given to us lowly gentiles and without the power of the Holy Spirit we cannot even do these as our nature consistently and as our everyday response to God to our self and to others. Please help me encourage me list the other 1031 pray for each other that the master Jesus would develop them masterfully in each one of us.
Now the commands of Moses 2,713 and the rest of the Old letter of commands that pointed to sin and the remedy of sin the sarifices and ceremonies the types and shadows of the Son of God’s sacrifice for sin 113,000 commands. Now I need my brethren’s encouragement and reproof and gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit to grow in the power of the Lord Jesus' Holy Spirit to be quickened and make them my natural response. So again 1050 commands of the Lord Jesus Christ to me a gentile. Let’s start for they in themselves cannot be done without the Holy Spirit quickening them in me.
The Laws of Moses Abolished Acts 15:24.
Starting the commands of the Lord Jesus in the New Living Testament as follows;
7 abstains; idols, fornication, strangles meats, eating blood, meats offered to idols acts15.
All appearances of evil 1 Th. 5:22, fleshly lusts 1 Pt.2:11.
Avoidances:
Trouble makers Ro. 16:17, Profane vain babblings 1 Tim 6:20. False Science.
Unlearned Questions 2 Tim 2:27. Foolish Questions Titus 3:9, Genealogies along with arguing about the Law.
Asks;
Ask and you shall receive Mt.7:7, ask no return of goods Luke6:30, ask life for the backslider 1 John 5:16.
Awakes; to righteousness 1 Corth. 15:34, awake to life Eph. 5:14
Now this is a start and there are 1031 more, why are not we discussing the other 1031 or even the 19 listed? These are given to us lowly gentiles and without the power of the Holy Spirit we cannot even do these as our nature consistently and as our everyday response to God to our self and to others. Please help me encourage me list the other 1031 pray for each other that the master Jesus would develop them masterfully in each one of us.