Mental Health Medications and Christians

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Originally Posted by MaggieMye

It is my hope that those that are on meds, would pursue deliverance in Christ Jesus so as to get free (set the captives free!). It is not God's will that ANYONE be bound to and trapped in the use of pharmakia/pharmaceuticals/pharmacy. He did not create any of us for that. That is how sneaky the devil is...he who come to kill, steal and destroy; Kill you, steal your peace and joy, and destroy your health...your life.




This is probably the most insulting post I've read yet, on this thread!! Are you trying to say that we need deliverance, just because we have an illness? Are you implying that we aren't saved, and that's why we need deliverance? Step into my shoes, honey. Or Angela's or BillyD's or Lynn's. God does NOT heal EVERYONE, and that's a fact! Sad and unfortunate, but very true. So, if your opinion is correct, then satan's been working on me since I was 5 years old? I wasn't even a christian yet at 5 years old!! Or maybe Billy and I have epilepsy because of some stupid "generational curse"?! I don't believe in curses, that's voodoo stuff. I am so frickin' sick and tired of being told "change your diet", "have more faith", and "you have demons in you"!!! Do you even comprehend how insulting and condescending that is to say to someone?!! YOU haven't said that to me, but many other ignoramuses here certainly have. My opinion is they need to keep their idiotic opinions quiet if they have nothing of value to offer me!!

Actually, in this case the opinion shouldn't be quiet, since a 15 year old boy's health is at stake. On the other hand, we need to pray the boy gets the help of someone not waiting around for a fake god to heal him. That 15 year old needs some serious prayers. I see this as a reason for the young man to turn from God in a few years, because he mistakes this false god as the real God and thinks the real God doesn't care about him.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Side effects. Again, your missing the point. I have to look at what I said here, but off the top of my head, I don't think I mentioned one thing that has a known negative side effect. That's the point of this whole thing. Meds have terrible side effects. I am generalizing, don't jump on me that so and so med doesn't.
The only side effect of what I have offered is good health.

If someone were to eat this diet, and they were allergic to the algae, but didn't know it, then THAT is an adverse effect. I'm not allergic to anything that I know of, but then again, I've never eaten algae or wheat grass. How do you know this diet WON'T adversely affect people? You have no assured guarantee of that.

 

[Depleted]

I agree with her, but not when it's meds, only when it's drugs. I know they call meds drugs but here it's two completely seperate things.
One woman who also believes it's occult (the drugs, not the meds) and has it as her profession said you should never tell a schizophrenia patient to just stop meds. That's dangerous. It's more about giving benzoids that drugaddicts get at the black market, to kids who are not completely quiet. Where to draw the exact line I don't know, since I don't know much about it. I do know though that the ones who are normal and never used it say way too quick that it's all good, because the doctor says so and people end up killing themselves or others.

Again, who are these "normal" people you know?

 

[JosephsDreams]

I am not trying to convince you to do this diet. I said that 3 or 4 pages back.
I AM hoping people here will consider that sometimes, even often, consider that their are alternative methods to healing that will not ravage the body the way prescription drugs will.
That is my whole point, and has been.
I am otherwise not trying to convince anyone of anything. Besides just considering there may be another safer gentler way.

 

[Willie-T]

I know, but your the exception for guys in your age group. You were ahead of your time.

"Kiss A__!" But I love it. Keep it up. LOL

Truthfully, I agree with just about everything you said concerning us killing ourselves... with over medicating, over eating, poor diet, lack of exercise, and general stupidity about health in total, both physical and mental. But, I do not see the wondrous "awakening" you seem to think has come to be. Sure, as Hippies we abused sex and drugs, but has any of that really changed? Not from where I sit. About the only thing that is different is that sexual promiscuity is now more universally accepted, and the drugs of choice now have different names.

 

[JosephsDreams]

By the way, call it advice, recommendations, counseling (I prefer the last) it is not a sinful or bad thing you know.
Your making it sound like I ma doing something unlawful or unethical.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I am not trying to convince you to do this diet. I said that 3 or 4 pages back.
I AM hoping people here will consider that sometimes, even often, consider that their are alternative methods to healing that will not ravage the body the way prescription drugs will.
That is my whole point, and has been.
I am otherwise not trying to convince anyone of anything. Besides just considering there may be another safer gentler way.

​I already eat a diet. It's called lettuce..lol.. And wheat grass and algae aren't part of it.

 

[JosephsDreams]

If someone were to eat this diet, and they were allergic to the algae, but didn't know it, then THAT is an adverse effect. I'm not allergic to anything that I know of, but then again, I've never eaten algae or wheat grass. How do you know this diet WON'T adversely affect people? You have no assured guarantee of that.

Never once have I seen anyone allergic to blue green micro algae. Not once. But even there, there is a easy way to test for it. Your just reaching.
How about meds. How many doctors test their patients first? There is a word, I forget now what it is, but essentially it si a word for how many people die a year from prescription drugs.
I mentioned last time I checked, about 6 years ago, it was around 30,000 people a year. I don't know of one person who has died from blue green algae.
Now your just saying whatever comes to your mind without any good reason, to just refute me.

 

[JosephsDreams]

"Kiss A__!" But I love it. Keep it up. LOL

Truthfully, I agree with just about everything you said concerning us killing ourselves... with over medicating, over eating, poor diet, lack of exercise, and general stupidity about health in total, both physical and mental. But, I do not see the wondrous "awakening" you seem to think has come to be. Sure, as Hippies we abused sex and drugs, but has any of that really changed? Not from where I sit. About the only thing that is different is that sexual promiscuity is now more universally accepted, and the drugs of choice now have different names.

All true Willie. But I have seen a tremendous shift in the last 20 years in the paradigm of the general public regarding nutrition.
If you think that post was a A..kisser, you should have read my long post a few pagers back where I mentioned you.
Unashamed, unadulterated...

 

[blue_ladybug]

Never once have I seen anyone allergic to blue green micro algae. Not once. But even there, there is a easy way to test for it. Your just reaching.
How about meds. How many doctors test their patients first? There is a word, I forget now what it is, but essentially it si a word for how many people die a year from prescription drugs.
I mentioned last time I checked, about 6 years ago, it was around 30,000 people a year. I don't know of one person who has died from blue green algae.
Now your just saying whatever comes to your mind without any good reason, to just refute me.

So just because YOU have never seen a case of someone being allergic to algae, means that someone should still go ahead and risk trying it anyways? There's ALOT more than 30,000 people in this world. Maybe it would help, maybe not. It's different for each person.

 

[JosephsDreams]

​I already eat a diet. It's called lettuce..lol.. And wheat grass and algae aren't part of it.

The mod just PM'ed me. He doesn't want you here anymore. Your posting to many inaccuracies.
Stop buggin out.

 

[JosephsDreams]

Just kidding

 

[Depleted]

Yup so true, sweet blue ladybug, I have a sweet ladybug tattoo lol..........I agree I have not been healed of schizophrenia, and God does not heal everyone. But Jesus has healed a lot of my illnesses. Someone told me Jesus may have to come back to earth practically, to heal some people with schizophrenia lol.....As it is a very difficult illness to heal, but having said ' that nothing is impossible for God to heal.' I am healed more when I speak the word of God to my infirmities.

If God heals us, it's really obvious. We're healed! I do get God helps us bear the thorn, and he aids us often in various ways, but don't keep on hanging around people who tell you God is going to heal you. God might heal you. He might not. He doesn't heal many or else it wouldn't be called "a miracle." But if he heals you it's never a "going to." It's a NOW!

Very important distinction because I've known too many people with mental disabilities that went off their meds every time some schmoe preached healing. The schmoe goes home to an easy life more pleased with self then worried about if God really did heal. And when the person believed the schmoe, it was three months or longer of hell before they were put back on the meds.

You have schizophrenia. That doesn't mean you're stupid. Know the con game, because, honest... HONEST, if God heals you it's instantly, without a doubt, and not kinda or partially. The con game is happening on this thread. ("Believe hard enough." Really? Obvious question then, who is doing the miracle, me or God?) Don't buy it, because it's your life that goes into the loop not the schmoes who thinks all they have to do is hope-and-maybe. God doesn't do maybes!

I was healed miraculously once. I'm physically disabled now. God doesn't do maybes!

 

[blue_ladybug]

The mod just PM'ed me. He doesn't want you here anymore. Your posting to many inaccuracies.
Stop buggin out.

Baloney. If a mod didn't want me here, he'd pm ME and tell me. Besides the OP IS a mod.. lol

 

[Willie-T]

I am not trying to convince you to do this diet. I said that 3 or 4 pages back.
I AM hoping people here will consider that sometimes, even often, consider that their are alternative methods to healing that will not ravage the body the way prescription drugs will.
That is my whole point, and has been.
I am otherwise not trying to convince anyone of anything. Besides just considering there may be another safer gentler way.

I go to a chiropractor who gave up a very promising and prosperous career as a pill pusher to go back to school for Chiropractic because he became convinced all he was doing with most medications was just killing people slowly. And he is a HUGE health proponent.

Most of us on this forum (from what I have heard us say about our lifestyles) would be shocked and horrified to even consider altering our habits to align with Dr. Hood's suggestions for longer and better life. I'm pretty healthy, and I can't bring myself to do some of the things he says I should. (A diet of a minimum of 60-65% green leafy vegetables? Eeech!)

Seriously, he believes that "Food Pyramid" most of us were taught about in school is totally the opposite of how we should be eating.

 

[coby2]

Again, who are these "normal" people you know?

The ones that don't need psychiaters or pills to function normally and who don't have a classified 'mental illness', the caregivers who care for these people and the psychiaters, although some of them really are nuts. There's a whole site of Grant Mullen and books. He preaches and has it all together and almost caused my death and of the others you don't know, because they're either dead or he removes their posts. Only the halleluja this is fabulous! ones are allowed.

 

[JosephsDreams]

So just because YOU have never seen a case of someone being allergic to algae, means that someone should still go ahead and risk trying it anyways? There's ALOT more than 30,000 people in this world. Maybe it would help, maybe not. It's different for each person.

Jesus help me.
You just don't get it. I said 30,000 people have died each year for many years due to prescription drug use.
I said I have never seen even one person that was allergic, much less die from blue green algae.
Which one is safer?
I said even then, if I ever had a person like you to counsel, and God, please don't do that to me, I would tell you how to test for it.
You probably would be the one person in the world who was allergic to it.
What don't you understand about what I am saying?

 

[Willie-T]

Most people are not "normal", they are simply has become the "average."

 

[4enlightment]

People needs to be very knowledgeable about foods so that they doesn't has to be depended on medicines man anymore.


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[JosephsDreams]

Baloney. If a mod didn't want me here, he'd pm ME and tell me. Besides the OP IS a mod.. lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Thank you. I needed a laugh. I'm actually crying...