Music in Church?

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SoulWeaver

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Why would the command to sing not be a doctrinal issue?

Must God's commands be obeyed or can they simply be ignored?

Why do you laugh at those that are doing their best to obey what God has commanded?
I did not laugh, I said I was being laughed at in a very mean way, and this came from forbidders of instruments. You just read things as you want to read them, and not what they actually say, so any conversation is just futile.
 

posthuman

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y'all joy in the Lord as it seems fit to you;
me and Hezekiah of Israel are gonna just throw on down . . .

The Lord will save me,
and we will sing with stringed instruments
all the days of our lives
in the temple of the Lord.

(Isaiah 38:20)
 
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Kerry

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That's a boring church, dead and dry. I don't want any part of it. Bring up the drums and harps and guitars and piano's and praise God.
 
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Kaycie

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I never understood the reasoning - even our voice is an instrument.
Exactly, and our voice is the instrument commanded in the new testament. We can't do anything without Christ's permission in the new testament because He has all authority. If its not in there we can't do it.
 
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Kaycie

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That's a boring church, dead and dry. I don't want any part of it. Bring up the drums and harps and guitars and piano's and praise God.
It is worship service- you are serving God. He is the audience, not you. If you want to please HIM you'll do it His way.
 
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Tintin

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Is this thread still going?
 

mailmandan

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That's a boring church, dead and dry. I don't want any part of it. Bring up the drums and harps and guitars and piano's and praise God.
Amen! No boring, dead and dry church service for me! Bring up the musical instruments!

[video=youtube_share;9-NxNaajPtY]http://youtu.be/9-NxNaajPtY[/video]
 
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oldthennew

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for me, when I hear one who loves our Father right down to their toes singing
their precious hearts out for love of Him, whether they are acappella or accompanied
on whatever instrument, my heart rejoices and my own Spirit sings along in their joy.

but, I am not a fan of 'over-powering-sexual-pagan beats' that stir-up the emotions
as in the 'old fertility rites' -
there's nothing new under the sun, but we must pick-and-choose what is acceptable
to our Father and do our best to honor Him in things that are Holy, Lovely, Pure,
Good, Honest, Sincere.'...
 

mailmandan

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Even in the perfect worship of heaven they use harps to aid their praise to God - And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth (Revelation 14:2-3).

In the Old Testament, we read in 2 Chronicles 5:11-14 - And it came to pass when the priests came out of the Most Holy Place (for all the priests who were present had sanctified themselves, without keeping to their divisions), and the Levites who were the singers, all those of Asaph and Heman and Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, stood at the east end of the altar, clothed in white linen, having cymbals, stringed instruments and harps, and with them one hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets-- indeed it came to pass, when the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the Lord, and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of music, and praised the Lord, saying: "For He is good, For His mercy endures forever.."

Ephesians 5:19 says "..speaking to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.." and correspondingly Colossians 3:16 says to, "..admonish one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs." The word "psalm" in the Greek dictionary, definition (#5568): "A set piece of music, i.e. a sacred ode (accompanied with the voice, harp, or other instrument)." The root word of psalm is "psallo" which means to means "to twitch, twang or pluck," such as pluck a string of a musical instrument.

If the church of Christ (or any other church) wants to leave out musical instruments in their worship, that is their prerogative. But I don't believe that it's right for them to judge and condemn everyone else who chooses to use musical instruments like David did, as the angels in heaven do and as the apostle Paul instructed.
 

Jabberjaw

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If the church of Christ (or any other church) wants to leave out musical instruments in their worship, that is their prerogative. But I don't believe that it's right for them to judge and condemn everyone else who chooses to use musical instruments like David did, as the angels in heaven do and as the apostle Paul instructed.
Do you think is wrong to worship God using animal sacrifice as David did? if no why doesn't anyone do it? if yes, what is the difference in playing musical instruments as David did, and not all other worship David did?

Nowhere is it recorded anyone on this earth in the first century church using mechanical musical instruments... for you to add it on your own is will-worship :

Col 2:23 (KJV)
23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
 

tourist

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Is it wrong to use electricity in the building where the worship service is being conducted as there is no mention in the OT on whether it is permissible to use incandescent lighting? Probably should play it safe and stick to the oil lamps and bury our talent in the ground so as to not displease the master because he is a hard man.
 
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Sirk

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Apparently so. There seems to be discussion on where to plug in the electric guitars and speakers for the worship service.
As well as the proper decibel level. Another thing we do with our worship is to try to suck a little bit so as to not make the "it sounds to polished" crowd feel uncomfortable.
 

notuptome

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Apparently so. There seems to be discussion on where to plug in the electric guitars and speakers for the worship service.
The power of the worship service ought to come from the pulpit not from the wall outlet.

Music is great but it cannot overshadow the preaching and teaching of Gods word. Our desire is to know God and to have His presence in our hearts. Music is the salad and bread sticks but the meat and potatoes is the proclamation of the word of God by Gods man anointed to the task.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Because Alexander Campbell propagated no instruments in church worship and that lie is spread to this day....the Psalms which are INSPIRED SONGS OF WORSHIP and ACCEPTABLE UNTO GOD are full of the use of MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS.....and for those who try to DISTINGUISH between the OLD and NEW TESTAMENTS when it comes to acceptable worship the bible covers this as well.....

I am the Lord thy God I change NOT!

It is FULLY acceptable to use MUSICAL instruments in the way of WORSHIP........!
 
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Sirk

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The power of the worship service ought to come from the pulpit not from the wall outlet.

Music is great but it cannot overshadow the preaching and teaching of Gods word. Our desire is to know God and to have His presence in our hearts. Music is the salad and bread sticks but the meat and potatoes is the proclamation of the word of God by Gods man anointed to the task.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
What if you are singing Gods words and proclaiming them in "one voice"?
 

notuptome

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What if you are singing Gods words and proclaiming them in "one voice"?
Show me from the scriptures where that was done. God has chosen the foolishness of singing? No the foolishness of preaching. 1 Corinthians 1:21

Jesus was a preacher not a singer although if He sang it would have been wonderful. Paul was a preacher not a singer at least there is no record of him singing.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Sirk

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Show me from the scriptures where that was done. God has chosen the foolishness of singing? No the foolishness of preaching. 1 Corinthians 1:21

Jesus was a preacher not a singer although if He sang it would have been wonderful. Paul was a preacher not a singer at least there is no record of him singing.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Be straight up. Does contemporary worship bother you?
 
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Because Alexander Campbell propagated no instruments in church worship and that lie is spread to this day....the Psalms which are INSPIRED SONGS OF WORSHIP and ACCEPTABLE UNTO GOD are full of the use of MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS.....and for those who try to DISTINGUISH between the OLD and NEW TESTAMENTS when it comes to acceptable worship the bible covers this as well.....

I am the Lord thy God I change NOT!

It is FULLY acceptable to use MUSICAL instruments in the way of WORSHIP........!

The bible (not any man) commands Christians to sing. Those that follow the bible will sing and not change that command but accept it as it is.

Those that follow men will do as they please regardless of what the bible says.....and this is how you end up with thousands of religious groups that contradict each all over the place yet all claim to be "right".


(The corruption of men adding IM to their own worship took place many centuries before Campbell was even born)
 
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Jabberjaw

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Is it wrong to use electricity in the building where the worship service is being conducted as there is no mention in the OT on whether it is permissible to use incandescent lighting? Probably should play it safe and stick to the oil lamps and bury our talent in the ground so as to not displease the master because he is a hard man.
Does electricity or in incandescent light change the sermon or worship of Him like instrumental music does? I cant remember an incandescent light or even electricity its self causing ones emotions to change as does instrumental music, however it does make it possible (expedient) to worship Him when the sun is not out, it does make it possible to hear the actual sermon with the expedient microphone (as long as someone isn't drowning it out with IM), the microphone expedient like the mountain was when our Lord delivered His lesson of the hour (Matt. 5:1-2), it is like the public address system used by our Lord when He pushed off the bank in a boat so as to "publicly address" the multitude (Matt. 13:2)...

Electricity or any thing it runs does not change the worship until you drive your instrumental music by it.