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well guess what? I don't see anywhere in the Bible where its condemned. So we either have liberty/freedom in Christ or he is some form on benevolent dictator. Now you can follow whichever path you choose on that one. I know the one I'm taking.
See the best part is that no one cares that you don't use instruments. Honestly your church can do worship however your church wants, thats not for me to criticize. BUt just shut up about how others do it. None of us care about your 'it's not authorized' position. Stop trying to force it on others or belittle our worhsip experiences because its not your worship experience.
See the best part is that no one cares that you don't use instruments. Honestly your church can do worship however your church wants, thats not for me to criticize. BUt just shut up about how others do it. None of us care about your 'it's not authorized' position. Stop trying to force it on others or belittle our worhsip experiences because its not your worship experience.
I will say there is a book called "Why I am a Member of the Church of Christ" by Leroy Brownlow that those who may be interested in the mainstream beliefs may like reading. I'm not suggesting anyone purchase this book and not stating this to advertise but to inform. The book is very inexpensive so one may be able to get it online for free or go to a local CoC and get one with no charge. I just want people to know what they're talking about from BOTH sides before they accuse.
And those here who may be CoC who are quick to accuse you need to be careful before you place yourself higher than others due to your own ignorance. Don't be a Pharisee.
And those here who may be CoC who are quick to accuse you need to be careful before you place yourself higher than others due to your own ignorance. Don't be a Pharisee.
So Sorry - truly. I was wrong.....should not make joke at someone else's expense. Thanks for pointing it out to me and I will stop. Please forgive as I really don't want to upset anyone and this has. Fun is fun but if someone gets hurt then it is not fun anymore so I apologize to all whom I may have offended. God bless in your walk with Jesus. I am still learning too even at 60.
You may call it accusation if you want to, all I did, and still do, is ask by what authority does anyone use to play mechanical musical instruments in the NT church?
1 Peter 3:15 (KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
I do not disagree they were used in the OT worship, but where did they find authorization for mechanical instruments in NT worship? if you use another covenant than the one of Christ, you commit spiritual adultery...
If a speed sign says 70mph, and you go 90, will you tell the officer of the law that the sign doesn't say I can't go 90?
Yet the bible says "sing" and you say "but it doesn't say I can't play musical instruments?", that is called "will worship"
1 Peter 3:15 (KJV) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
I do not disagree they were used in the OT worship, but where did they find authorization for mechanical instruments in NT worship? if you use another covenant than the one of Christ, you commit spiritual adultery...
If a speed sign says 70mph, and you go 90, will you tell the officer of the law that the sign doesn't say I can't go 90?
Yet the bible says "sing" and you say "but it doesn't say I can't play musical instruments?", that is called "will worship"
So you are agreeing with me that trying to use the OT to justify the use of IM is biblically faulty?
After all, if one today can be justified by the OT for using IM why couldn't those Galatians be justified by the OT in their circumcising?
And if one can use David as an example for something he practices, then why can't I use David as example for other practices as polygamy and animal sacrifices?
After all, if one today can be justified by the OT for using IM why couldn't those Galatians be justified by the OT in their circumcising?
And if one can use David as an example for something he practices, then why can't I use David as example for other practices as polygamy and animal sacrifices?
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Look at the post about authorization vs Biblical principle.
With your hermeneutic, we could not use any technology not available during the 1st century, as it was never authorized, nor could we express our love for God through any OT observances, which we know we have freedom to observe. We are not bound by rules, but by principle, through the Holy Spirit.
With your hermeneutic, we could not use any technology not available during the 1st century, as it was never authorized, nor could we express our love for God through any OT observances, which we know we have freedom to observe. We are not bound by rules, but by principle, through the Holy Spirit.
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You change "sing" to be a speed limit sign. It does not exclude other good things, nor limit worship to a single action.
Do you have the authority to restrict worship? No, and none is given in the Word. Your restriction is man-made. Sin and disorder is restricted in the NT, not worship.
Facepalm smells like disappointment.
Do you have the authority to restrict worship? No, and none is given in the Word. Your restriction is man-made. Sin and disorder is restricted in the NT, not worship.
Facepalm smells like disappointment.
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Let me also add that with your hermeneutic, we could not perform ANY action not specifically commanded in the NT.
If God says it is good and holy, let no man persuade you otherwise. Think of what Acts 10 really means to you today. Does it mean we throw out the OT, or that we recognize what is holy and set apart for God, and accept it as good.
If God says it is good and holy, let no man persuade you otherwise. Think of what Acts 10 really means to you today. Does it mean we throw out the OT, or that we recognize what is holy and set apart for God, and accept it as good.
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This does not address the two questions I asked about trying to be justified by the OT. Those two questions again:
After all, if one today can be justified by the OT for using IM why couldn't those Galatians be justified by the OT in circumcising?
And if one can use David as an example for something he practices, then why can't I use David as example for other practices as polygamy and animal sacrifices?
In the great commission, Jesus commanded His disciples to "go" into all the world. Since Jesus did not specify a particular mode of transportation/communication then how were they to 'go'? Could they walk since Jesus did not specifically authorize walking? When Jesus commanded "go" He left the mode up to the expediency of the disciples as to how they go, whether they walk, horse-back or by ship. And it is still a matter of expediency today for disciples as to how they "go: whether by car, airplane, internet.
Phil 3:16 "Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing."
If people do not walk by the same rule, mind the same thing, then next thing you know there will be thousands of religious groups all believing things totally contradictory to each other..........
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