my sin isn't as bad as your's

carey · Mar 23, 2013

Paul said he is the chief of sinners, and this was after his Damascus experience, he also said "I do what I do not want to do" if this isn't referring to sin what is he referring to, Abraham lied about Sarah being his wife, so did Isaac, David killed a man in order to have Bathsheba, Peter lied and said he did not know Jesus and was not one of His followers

nonicknametouse · Mar 23, 2013

Someitmes people feel bad about themselves and have a need to knock others to feel better about themselves. Matthew 7:3 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye. We should never let any man mold us. The only person who should mold us is The Lord. Christians like to intimadate on another for some reason as in the first sentence. I can honestly say that when we walk with the Lord we do do need to change our lives so we can be Godly examples to one another.

1 Peter 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day He visits us. Your good deeds can bring someone to salvation. Christians are as bad as pagans sometimes.

When we become christians the world expects us to be different. They watch us ready to critisize. I remember everytime I did something my Mother-in-law didn' like the first thing out of her mouth was "Oh, you call yourself a Christian".

We a re not perfect, however sometimes we can over use that statement. We need to draw our strength form the Lord and He will change our hearts. It is work, but the best work you'll ever do.

Inward sins or outward sins = SIN. Jesus is about change.

cutepoison · Mar 23, 2013

YOU'RE ALL AS BAD AS HITLER. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL!?!?!?!?!?!?

There are morals and then there's sin.... and there is a difference. Get me?

cutepoison · Mar 23, 2013

I'm just saying all sin is equal to God

Photoss · Mar 23, 2013

cutepoison said:

Except the unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (i.e. attributing the work of Christ instead to Satan).

In regard to the OP, if a member of the church has sin that is actively affecting other members of the congregation, then it is up to the church leadership to quietly and Biblically deal with the situation. But as always, let those without sin throw the first stone. (There is a difference between trying to guide an individual towards the truth, and denouncing them.)

Graybeard · Mar 23, 2013

cutepoison said:

actually all sin is not equal to God:

Joh 19:10 Then Pilate said to Him, "Are You not speaking to me? Do You not know that I have power to crucify You, and power to release You?"
Joh 19:11 Jesus answered, "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin."

1Co 6:18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

1Jn 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.
1Jn 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

There is Scripture that also describes how God dislikes more than others but I cannot find it.

Tommy4Christ · Mar 23, 2013

Self-Control

‘He reasoned with them about Righteousness, Self-control and the Judgment to come!” Acts24:25

The lack of self control in our general society is glaring to anyone with eyes to see. People from every station of life, from the entertainment industry to politics, to the local Pastor of your street corner churches; people just can’t seem to rule over their passions and desires. Among professing Christians it’s anything goes, vile carnality is rampant. They are all filthy rags with desperately wicked hearts, so their Gospel goes. Everyone is born in sin, saved in sin and never stop sinning.

They blame it on the ‘flesh’ as though something evil dwells within it, inbred from birth. Yet flesh, SARX, is just that ‘flesh’ that covers over the bones, nothing more. It cannot be intrinsically evil or inherently good, its just flesh. When the Bible says that in me, in my flesh, dwells no good thing, (Rom7:18) its speaking about the facilities man was created with, a moral conscience and natural desires, inclinations. It’s the passions and desires within a person’s heart (mind) and how they are utilized by personal choices that determines the difference between self-control and lack thereof. Sin becomes addiction when through the process of Physis (long practiced habit) Eph2:3, where it grows and develops. Herein it brings the Mind into Captivity so the flesh (passions & desires) are Carnal sold under sin. (Rom7:23, 14)

When the Bible makes an imperative demand for a person to repent, cleanse themselves of all filthiness and overflow of wickedness and amend their ways, it’s focused directly on the Will of man and his natural ABILITY to make a choice to obey or deny. There is NOTHING in the flesh that can hinder this ability or affect the choice that has to be made. It’s purely a matter of yielding one self to good or evil. (Rom6:13) Sin can only have dominion over a person IF they allow it to do so by submitting themselves to the indulgence of their natural desires. (referred to as flesh in the Bible)

The reason people have such a lack of self control in religion and general society is that they BELIEVE no one is responsible for their own actions! Every vile addiction under the sun is considered a malady inbred into their flesh and must be treated with focus groups or professional counseling. The Professing Christian world has turned this into a mega million dollar industry treating sin in a ‘disease management’ scenario, in which the people are Promised Liberty in Christ while they remain slaves to the corruption of sin. (2Pet2:18) The harsh reality of Righteousness, Self-control and the Judgment to come is out of the picture entirely as society (both religious and secular) perpetuates the myth of congenital wrong doing. People have given themselves over to a reprobate mind (alcohol, drugs, sex, vile behavior) by the choices they have made from their youth to gratify their own base desires. The Bible says they are like ‘Natural Brut beasts made to be caught and destroyed, and will perish in their own corruption’, 2Pet2:12, BUT you will NEVER hear that spoken in a Church or by one of these so-called Christian Pundits who merchandise these people with smooth words and flattering speech. (Rom16:18)

Is there a Pastor, lecturer, seminar speaker or physiologist ANYWHERE who can see through this foolish (and pagan) notion of corrupted flesh hindering man’s Ability to choose between right and wrong? (I have yet to find one, expect a few lone voices crying in the wilderness) People can no longer discern between good and evil, they have corrupted their conscience into a state of numbness. The Moral compass is out of commission. Professed Christians claim no one has any control over sinning without Jesus. But all the Pundits constantly offer assurance that God is there to help them, yet their lives are pattern of repeated failure. The message preached is a contradiction in terms!

On one side of the coin God is going to change their desires and give them power over addiction. On the other side they are continuously reminded that their efforts are filthy rags to God, their hearts desperately wicked and every Christian is the Chief of sinners, saved by grace. It’s NEVER the logic of mind over matter where sin is concerned. Choice is not a factor! Consequently as a ‘Man thinks in his heart so is he’ Prov23:7, if the Mind is fully Convinced sin is inevitable, then so shall it Never Stop.
It’s NOT as the Flesh thinks, nothing exists in the flesh but bone, cells and blood! Carnality relates to physical appetites. It is the PRACTICE of finding satisfaction in activities related to the base desires that offer gratification to the perverse imaginations of the mind. The Bible uses the word ‘flesh’ to describe these things because as everyone bent on instant gratification knows, ‘if it feels good do it!’ Couple that with a SYSTEM that reinforces the ‘corrupted’ flesh myth with every excuse on earth and its no wonder people will also find every reason not to even try to ‘rule over it’, Gen4:7

Preachers since the Reformation who vary in degree of Substitution Doctrine sincerely believe that if they can persuade a person to ‘receive’ Jesus, that the Holy Spirit will help them overcome their sins by gradually changing their desires. When it doesn’t happen and the addictions get worse, they assure them it’s a ‘work’ in progress, just rest in the confidence Jesus understands and will see them through it. Everyone (including the Pastors) is in the same boat. It’s either an addiction to the vain attractions of the world or an outright indulgence to the lust of the flesh. ‘No one is perfect’ and no one can ever expect to be completely free from sin. (and by sin they mean everything from driving over the speed limit to drunkenness, adultery, fornication, lust, uncleanness and vile dispositions, its all the same!)

The vast majority of Bible Pundits in the world today believe that man is Born with some kind of inbred corruption either inherited from Adam or cursed into his flesh as a result of the original fall. This results in preaching a Message of the flesh vs. the spirit, a continual battle between the two, the person forever plagued with a double-mind and divided heart. Professing Christian assemblies are overwhelmed with massive carnality, devious people and lovers of vain amusements. But it’s all seen as Standard operating Procedure for people Saved by Grace, not of works, pre-forgiven and never held accountable for their sin.

Even among preachers who reject the born in sin myth, ability to Stop sinning and Seek God is questioned. By mixing theologies they limit man’s natural abilities to make a right choice and come clean with God in repentance. They will say that the sin stops when a person receives Jesus and is saved. But again we have the same dilemma. By assuring the person God is going to magically take away their desire to sin at the moment of Salvation, you negate the CHOICE they should have made to stop n the fist place! The reality is God is NOT going to make the choice for you. He WILL NOT overrule man’s Free Will! He has already out-stretched His hand, convicted the heart, is not willing any perish and calls all people everywhere to repent! What MORE is required? He awaits your Response.

‘Righteousness self-control and Judgment to come’, Acts24:25, was preached to a people who understood the imperative of CHOICE! Repentance Proven by Deeds was a given to the Apostolic Message, because inbred sin dual nature concepts were PAGAN Doctrines! The Bible addresses Man at the threshold of his ABILITY: ‘Choose this day Who you will Serve’, ‘Prove your repentance by your Deeds!’, ‘Strive to enter the Narrow Gate!’, ‘Depart from Iniquity!’, ‘Rule over it!’ God is not mocking man’s inability; He requires a determined effort be made to Meet Him on His ground. It is Man WHO is Mocking God by his constant insistence of helplessness in the face of Truth. They cry, ‘The Way of the Lord is not Fair!’ BUT what is Fairness … a license to Sin!? That’s exactly what you have in your churches now and what is the benefit? Wrecked lives, ruined homes, abused children, perverse relationships, debauchery unbraided and no end in sight! But it’s Pie in the Sky when you Die no matter what, so the preachers say. Thus test your theories and myths at the Judgment seat and find out how un-fair you’ve been to God.

It’s not likely Bible Pundits with a stake in the System will wake up to the corrupted flesh myth any time soon and start focusing the Gospel on man’s ability to obey. Individuals have awakened, but they always break free of the System because their message is no longer welcome. Perhaps these are the Days of Noah the Lord spoke of Matt24:27, when Most did not know Judgment was impending until it came and swept them all away. I certainly don’t have all the answers, but I do know ONE thing; God has given man a CHOICE and it’s up to each and every individual on earth to OBEY or REJECT His offer. Sadly FEW even realize that they’ve already made their Choice …. to continue in their sins. www.standingthegap.org

mark54 · Mar 23, 2013

carey said:

So much truth in what you have written. As a teenager I would sit on the wall outside the church and smoke a cigarette after the service. The looks I got from the church stalwarts made me believe I'd go to hell for smoking, let alone my other imperfections. Years later I found out God was not so condemning as many Christians were in that regard. I'm not saying this to condone smoking, but I know there are other things God views as worse than that

Youi are right, many give up crushed, by the attitude of others towards them.
In the churches I have been to if you are well dressed, well educated, speak well, don't smoke, or have a drink problem you are far more likely to be accepted by ther core of the church. I have seen so many leave churches who do not fit in to the 'acceptable' mode, crushed, feeling they cannot be good enough for God, it is tragic.
I wonder if God is more concerned with their imperfections, or the attitude of some church members towards them

sunnygurl · Mar 23, 2013

Don't judge someone because they sin differently to you.

(Wanted to upload this quote with a picture but was unable too.)

Only Christ is perfect and without sin.

God alone sits on the seat of judgement and He has all wisdom and knowledge I trust Him completely as my only Judge.

The log and speck parable sums it up perfectly.

RedTent · Mar 23, 2013

It is such a dilemma, isn’t it! Even in Paul’s letters you find problems between people.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could be so absorbed in our relationship with God that we could see our family of God through His eyes,only, and not through our own ego. Then, at the same time, not try to take over God’s job of repaying others for their sins and be able to judge what is sin without judging people.

It is my goal, but I often fail. For me, I have more truoble with hurt feelings than my judging. But I surely have a problem with my judging the people who hurt my feelings!!

Abbe · Mar 23, 2013

Well I smoked for years, I liked smoking, and I did not give it up on my own.I smoked befor church, after church, and I would liked to have had one while setting in church, like I said, I did not give it up by my self, I needed the help of God. Took some time , he did it in HIS, on time not mine, One night I just stoped, nothing big, no the lights did not go on and off, I just stoped. Stoped drinking the same way, use to go out , and drink my self sober.And( now get a hold of your selves, I know that there are many on here that NEVER SIN anymore)I stoped sleeping around , I did not stop any of this on my own, I had to hit the bottom of the gutter, so that I could look up into the face of God, and ask him to help me.Thats the only way for me. You might stop trying to do things on your own , and let him ( that knows you best)help you.Just saying , might help.

Angela53510 · Mar 23, 2013

I agree with Professor.

When I was saved, I was an alcoholic. I knew it had to go, forever. I can honestly say, I have not had a drink since. And no withdrawal. I repented of that, of my previous New Age beliefs.

But then I stumbled and fell in quite a few times. Got very discouraged. My husband got discouraged.

God was faithful and brought me along, through a few valleys.

I learned that salvation is a process and that Christ is changing me minute by minute for his glory.

We do need to repent and confess, both the gross outer sins and the harder sins like pride, gluttony and things like that.

As for smoking, I am severely allergic to it, and I cannot understand why anyone, Christian or not would destroy their bodies with a poison with over 5000 chemicals, including 54 known carcinogens. In some ways, worse than liquor on the body.

Not judging, just suggesting that by confessing this sin, maybe the OP needs to see if God is telling her it is a stumbling block and she needs to quit. I know it is hard, but the first thing my husband did when he got saved was give up cigarettes and never smoked again.

I just cling to Jesus, and daily confess the things I know I have done wrong - to God and to others.

If they are truly saved, new believers will want to repent and change. That is what the Bible tells us to do. But it is a process and a journey, as to giving up the outer AND inner sins.

carey · Mar 23, 2013

This is the heart of what I intended!
It's sad this thread got turned around by the first line of what I said, only a few people got what I was trying to say! Thank you!

mark54 said:

So much truth in what you have written. As a teenager I would sit on the wall outside the church and smoke a cigarette after the service. The looks I got from the church stalwarts made me believe I'd go to hell for smoking, let alone my other imperfections. Years later I found out God was not so condemning as many Christians were in that regard. I'm not saying this to condone smoking, but I know there are other things God views as worse than that

Youi are right, many give up crushed, by the attitude of others towards them.
In the churches I have been to if you are well dressed, well educated, speak well, don't smoke, or have a drink problem you are far more likely to be accepted by ther core of the church. I have seen so many leave churches who do not fit in to the 'acceptable' mode, crushed, feeling they cannot be good enough for God, it is tragic.
I wonder if God is more concerned with their imperfections, or the attitude of some church members towards them

Graybeard · Mar 23, 2013

carey said:

I got exactly what you said but did not post because of what people normally do...take stuff out of context....

carey · Mar 23, 2013

So true my friend!

Radius · Mar 23, 2013

Hmm. I can identify with this thread, but I cannot tell the OP that she is going to alright drinking, smoking and cussing. Usually, the first thing that gets cleaned up when a person gets saved is their mouth. Really OP there is no excuse for you to keep on cussing, but I admit again that when I get a wave of anger and frustration that flows over me when I get into an argument with my wife for example, I let out a cuss word, too. It's not often, but it does still happen from time to time, and it tears me up inside that I did.

I think the smoking and drinking will come for you one day to stop. I used to smoke and drink but I eventually gave both up on the same day. You have to quit cold turkey and you can't keep putting it off. The way I looked at it was here I am at 30 years old. Nearly half my life is over (God willing I get more than 60 years) and do I really want to enter this phase of my life still living like the devil which would mean I spent more than half my life living like the devil even though I was saved, how is that pleasing to God? And I would suffer greatly on Judgment Day and be filled with guilt and remorse. You only get one crack at life, that's it! You only have one shot to show God how much you live Him through your willingness to be more like Him. Remember, you can never come back and give it a second try. So please, and I pray that you understand how much this sin impacts you in eternity and how more you will cherish giving up these sins on Earth. What happens if you die tonight? Are you ready to hear the words, "well done, my good and faithful servant" knowing full well you did not try your hardest to be that good and faithful servant?

Also, one verse that brought comfort and joy to my soul when I decided to quit was Luke 15:7, "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."

The problem with your particular sins is that they are very controlling. They are also visible which allows others to see and it makes you a bad representative of Christ. When I was smoking and drinking, I never used to let people know I was saved because I didn't want them to think this lifestyle was indicative of a person in Christ.

I guess you are not convicted enough to change right now. And you are right, I have my sins too that no one but God sees, and I am working on those, too. But just because I have these inward sins does not give you the go-on-sinning free card. As you said you are convicted, but today is the day of repentance! Just do it, you'll be glad you did.

Skinski7 · Mar 24, 2013

carey said:

Look at what you have just done.

You allude to this passage...

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Yet here is the context of that passage...

1Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
1Ti 1:14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
1Ti 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

Paul is using the term "chief of sinners" clearly in the context of his former life. Why do you refer to that scripture out of context? Why?

Is it because you want the Bible to to say something it doesn't and you are thus forced to allude to things out of context? Let's be real here. This is not a game.

Paul said this...

Act_24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.

Why not quote that? Why is it that so many professing Christian's contend in favour of unrighteousness?

Look at what Peter wrote here...

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Is Peter teaching that Paul was the chief of sinners and that he is still struggling with filthy language and substance abuse? There is simply no comparison between what Peter preached and what you are contending for.

Honestly Peter and Paul would be thrown out of most church congregations today.

Paul wrote this...

Eph 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
Eph 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
Eph 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.
Eph 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Does a passage like that mean nothing to you Carey?

Is that passage like water off a ducks back to your mind? Do you pretend passages like that don't exist and simply cling to a few verses that are isolated from their context?

Is that what you do? Will you dodge my questions with some rhetoric?

carey said:

Then you refer to this verse...

Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

The wretch of Rom 7:14-25 is "carnal and sold under sin" (v14), does what he would not if he knew better (v15), mentally assents that the righteousness of the law is good (v16), says that it is the sin in him holds him in bondage (v17), pleads ignorance as how to rule over the flesh (v18), he keeps falling into sin (v19-21), he recognises one law in his mind and another law in his flesh, and it is the latter law which keeps him in bondage and he is crying out for deliverance (v23-24). he serves the law of God with the mind but with his flesh the law of sin (v25).

You really think that is the Christian who has been redeemed from all iniquity and made pure (Tit 2:14)?

Is the Romans 7 wretch this...

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Has the Romans wretch been made free from sin and has he become a slave to righteousness?

Look at what Paul immediately following the wretch passage...

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Right there is the deliverance that the wretch was seeking. Plain as day written there in the Bible in simple plain easy to understand language. Look at what Paul also wrote...

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Was the Romans wretch mortifying the deeds of the body throught the Spirit? Are you?

This is where the rubber hits the road. They are not teaching you these scriptures in whatever church you attend, if they do they explain them away as not really meaning what they plainly say.

Look at this scrupture...

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Do you still serve sin? Or have you been freed from sin? It is one or the other.

Look at what Paul writes soon after...

Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Is that optional? Compare what Paul wrote there to the passage from Ephesians 4 and 5 I quoted.

Why do you argue in favour of an ongoing life of sinning?

Look at this passage...

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Have you escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust? Or are you still in bondage to the lusts of your flesh. The Romans Wretch was still in bondage to the lusts of the flesh.

Think seriously about it for this is not a game. You can dismiss my post and write it off in you mind and you can ignore what the Bible PLAINLY teaches and instead worship an IMAGE of your own imagination. Yet that image will be destroyed by the REAL JESUS at the judgement and you will be in utter shock.

carey · Mar 24, 2013

Let me set the record straight
I do not drink or smoke weed, I used that as an example. I do however have a quit date for my smoking, unlike some God has not miraculously delivered me of it, it's a struggle, but I'm working on it, as for my cursing, I'm a army brat so it has been a part of my vocabulary for many years, that's not an excuse, I only say this as background, also working on it, I am a work in progress! The Lord works with us in His time!
Now can everyone please get off my case and get back to the heart of this thread? I used myself as an example to show we are imperfect beings, excuse me for being open and honest
A persons inside sins are way more damaging than someone's outward sins, Jesus said it best when He called the pharmacies white washed tombs

carey · Mar 24, 2013

Pharasies, (stupid spell check! )

carey · Mar 24, 2013

Skinski7
Have you escaped pride, haughtiness, thinking of yourself better than others, do you judge or look down at another, do you lie, but justify yourself by thinking it's only a little white lie, do you covet what your neighbors have, envy the wicked, can you honestly tell me you are pure and blameless?

my sin isn't as bad as your's

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