Nationalism and the Christian
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Tell you what, I'll leave before it is bansville for me too. There is a Clique here. The oldest posting members. Ever wonder why newbies don't last? How many personalities exist as different screen names but are those few in the Clique playing games, I wonder.
I'll have to look for reviews on this site and see who else has seen what I've seen.
Good day.
I'll have to look for reviews on this site and see who else has seen what I've seen.
Good day.
That guy was definitely strange that's for sure.
and/or misrepresenting what people say does not amount to editing their posts. I do not
know why that was so difficult for him to understand. Somehow he just could not grasp it.
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I think he was trying to express that he felt that he was being paraphrased out of context.
He was making a reference in his initial post to 1 John 4:20
"If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" - 1 John 4:20
Hitch seemed to be looking at the passage as an "IF/THEN" statement, that IF one hates their brother THEN they can't love God. Which is true in a sense, just not in the context of something being "forbidden". I think Hitch just used the wrong word here. The more correction "IF/THEN" would be IF one hates their brother THEN it is an indication that they don't truly love God.
JJ's criticism fairly addressed Hitch's introduction of the concept that loving God could ever be a "forbidden" thing.
Hitch seemed to be frustrated that the focus was about the "forbidden to love" status outside of the context of the conditioning "IF" statement. He continued to use the term "edit" to express that he perceived his words to be "paraphrased out of context." I think he was just missing what the criticism was really about.
Some forums have policies that are titled or explained as "let me edit that for you" quotes where a user maliciously changes the content of another user (typically when presented in a quote container) usually for the purpose of gaslighting or making someone appear foolish. I think that kind of projection was unfair from Hitch, if that is indeed where he was coming from, but it would make sense as to why he was adamant that another user had "edited" his post. That usage of "edit" is common in some other forums.
For anyone wondering what happened, I hope this might bring some light to the situation. Language barriers are unfortunate, but they happen.
He was making a reference in his initial post to 1 John 4:20
"If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" - 1 John 4:20
Hitch seemed to be looking at the passage as an "IF/THEN" statement, that IF one hates their brother THEN they can't love God. Which is true in a sense, just not in the context of something being "forbidden". I think Hitch just used the wrong word here. The more correction "IF/THEN" would be IF one hates their brother THEN it is an indication that they don't truly love God.
JJ's criticism fairly addressed Hitch's introduction of the concept that loving God could ever be a "forbidden" thing.
Hitch seemed to be frustrated that the focus was about the "forbidden to love" status outside of the context of the conditioning "IF" statement. He continued to use the term "edit" to express that he perceived his words to be "paraphrased out of context." I think he was just missing what the criticism was really about.
Some forums have policies that are titled or explained as "let me edit that for you" quotes where a user maliciously changes the content of another user (typically when presented in a quote container) usually for the purpose of gaslighting or making someone appear foolish. I think that kind of projection was unfair from Hitch, if that is indeed where he was coming from, but it would make sense as to why he was adamant that another user had "edited" his post. That usage of "edit" is common in some other forums.
For anyone wondering what happened, I hope this might bring some light to the situation. Language barriers are unfortunate, but they happen.
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