Not By Works
- Thread starter dcontroversal
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
U
Jesus spent time shooting down those who had pride in their knowledge of spiritual things, and used it as a weapon against others. They were even responsible, in part, for his murder and torture.
But Jesus did say
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
So who Really is not seeing the whole picture? The one trying to bring peace, or the ones that feel they always have to be right in their spiritual knowledge and use it against others?
But Jesus did say
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
So who Really is not seeing the whole picture? The one trying to bring peace, or the ones that feel they always have to be right in their spiritual knowledge and use it against others?
A
The whole point is that you want his comment to be about what you said and not what He meant and you yell slanderer and liar at people who do exactly what you do.
You statement is true..without our root being Faith in Jesus there is no sure foundation.
However what is false is your application and inference that it has anything to do with the point Meggido was making.
.However your pride will not allow you to admit that you misread his statement and thus commented on what you thought he meant instead of what he meant.
I have misread comments before and people explain and I apologize, or they accuse me of lying about what they said and slandering their good name and I just put them on ignore.
It's not a horrible sin to misread what someone wrote but it's wrong to continue claiming someone believes something they have clearly said THEY DO NOT BELIEVE.
Weren't you lecturing earlier about how people shouldn't falsely represent others beliefs?
You statement is true..without our root being Faith in Jesus there is no sure foundation.
However what is false is your application and inference that it has anything to do with the point Meggido was making.
.However your pride will not allow you to admit that you misread his statement and thus commented on what you thought he meant instead of what he meant.
I have misread comments before and people explain and I apologize, or they accuse me of lying about what they said and slandering their good name and I just put them on ignore.
It's not a horrible sin to misread what someone wrote but it's wrong to continue claiming someone believes something they have clearly said THEY DO NOT BELIEVE.
Weren't you lecturing earlier about how people shouldn't falsely represent others beliefs?
John 13:3-17
3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come from God and was going to God, 4 rose from supper and laid aside His garments, took a towel and girded Himself. 5 After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded. 6 Then He came to Simon Peter. And Peter said to Him, “Lord, are You washing my feet?”
7 Jesus answered and said to him, “What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this.”
8 Peter said to Him, “You shall never wash my feet!”
Jesus answered him, “If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me.”
9 Simon Peter said to Him, “Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!”
10 Jesus said to him, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you.” 11 For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, “You are not all clean.”
12 So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, “Do you know what I have done to you? 13 You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. 14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. 16 Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. 17 If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
May we all be like Jesus
A
I am not seeking peace. I am seeking honest discussion and Christian maturity from people who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ.
It's fine to disagree but at least be honest about what the other person believes and what you are disagreeing about.
Shouts of slanderer and liar seem hypocritical when the person shouting is also doing the same crime of falsely representing what the other person believes or is saying.
Too often people speak past each other or at each other or maliciously gossip about others...instead of simply stating what they believe God has revealed with love.
People have allowed what they are against to blind them instead of standing for truth and proclaiming what they stand FOR.
We have those AGAINST WORK SALVATIONIST.
We have those AGAINST EASY BELIEVISM/MENTAL ASSENT
And we have some AGAINST BOTH LEGALISM AND LICTENTIOUSNESS.
We may not always agree on every point of doctrine, but I wonder if we can agree upon what a mature Christian should look like and how we should behave towards one another in love?
It's fine to disagree but at least be honest about what the other person believes and what you are disagreeing about.
Shouts of slanderer and liar seem hypocritical when the person shouting is also doing the same crime of falsely representing what the other person believes or is saying.
Too often people speak past each other or at each other or maliciously gossip about others...instead of simply stating what they believe God has revealed with love.
People have allowed what they are against to blind them instead of standing for truth and proclaiming what they stand FOR.
We have those AGAINST WORK SALVATIONIST.
We have those AGAINST EASY BELIEVISM/MENTAL ASSENT
And we have some AGAINST BOTH LEGALISM AND LICTENTIOUSNESS.
We may not always agree on every point of doctrine, but I wonder if we can agree upon what a mature Christian should look like and how we should behave towards one another in love?
so the answered is comfirmed you must wash your partners feets lol and massage them too 
especially after a hard days work or walk or what ever trevor,,
anyhows ya get my drift but then should we graciouse to wash our enemies feet and accept them in to the family lol ,,, now i hardly think our top boxers in the world would even contemplate it,,, but then holiness can work miricals lol..
especially after a hard days work or walk or what ever trevor,, anyhows ya get my drift but then should we graciouse to wash our enemies feet and accept them in to the family lol ,,, now i hardly think our top boxers in the world would even contemplate it,,, but then holiness can work miricals lol..
1 Thessalonians 5:14 - We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15 See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. 16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:14 - We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15 See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. 16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:14 - We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15 See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. 16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.
Not rendering evil for evil and seeking after that which is good for one another and for all people certainly sounds like seeking peace to me, but to make you happy, I will also bold admonish the unruly.
The transformation of the mind comes by the WORD of God...obviously you know we get the word metamorphis from the Greek word translated transformed....a steady diet of the word of God will grow and mature the spieit we bave that has been born of God (of incorruptable seed) combined with the lead, guide, conviction and enlightment of the Spirit of God.
I know this path personally and went from a druggie and sexually impure to quitting drugs and being able to look at a woman and think she is pretty without any impure thoughts whatsoever at all in 1991....took 2 years of study and faithul service to acheive that path.....obviously the more we study and apply the word the more faithful and solid we get in our walk and service!
I know this path personally and went from a druggie and sexually impure to quitting drugs and being able to look at a woman and think she is pretty without any impure thoughts whatsoever at all in 1991....took 2 years of study and faithul service to acheive that path.....obviously the more we study and apply the word the more faithful and solid we get in our walk and service!
A
I have been to a few "feet washing" were the pastor washes the feet of their congregation...,my daughter got in both lines and had both pastors wash her feet....her being only 4 at the time,they laughed and obliged. Not that many people showed up for it .
I do it last year for the youth in the middle of our Appalachian trail hike. One of the other leaders washed mine...it was a very humbling and spiritual experience to trust someone to wash your feet. It made me better understand why Peter objected to Jesus doing it.
I do it last year for the youth in the middle of our Appalachian trail hike. One of the other leaders washed mine...it was a very humbling and spiritual experience to trust someone to wash your feet. It made me better understand why Peter objected to Jesus doing it.