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I didn't write the bible..
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I wouldn't call it heresy. I would call it..."you better watch your mouth cuz Dad is gonna get you" bad judgement on their part.
The Bible says don't judge another person's servant.
We can tell a brother or sister out of love that they are sinning and need to stop. However, we cross the line when we condemn them to hell.
It's never too late for God to save anyone.
The Bible says don't judge another person's servant.
We can tell a brother or sister out of love that they are sinning and need to stop. However, we cross the line when we condemn them to hell.
It's never too late for God to save anyone.
I do not understand this question. The reason is change only happens in the context of Jesus and
the Holy Spirit, so all the glory goes to Him. Now I have never thought of bring praise to myself
because how could I a failed sinner.
This is why I find this is a straw man question.
It is like saying who motivates you to do good works? Because of Christs love it is Christ.
If you know how lost one is without Christ, everything in ones heart desires to bring things
back to Him, because He is the source of life.
My only question to those who raise such questions, is, do you know the brutality of the cross
the suffering and shame involved, and you and I put Him there. And He forgives us.
Everything feeds from this. To not listen and obey the Lord is to dishonour this very act,
which we learn each day to value more.
Now what flabbergasts me is this fascination with safety. Christ is about risk, faith, knowing
righteousness and love conquers sin every time, purity and holiness is everything. A corrupt
split society rots from the inside out. To walk in Christ is not to know who will overturn you
persecute and destroy what you have, but it does not matter because you know Jesus.
So if you know Jesus, why do you need a theology of being safe? Do you not trust Him?
If I had a friend and we made a deal, but I wanted penalty clauses, a commitment that no
matter what I would be safe, would this convey trust and being a team together, or I did
not trust him at all and wanted my end safe. So I suspect things are really very different
than people admit to, and they are not sure of their relationship with God, and want so
reassurance or else they will lie awake in fear it will all go wrong.
And I become a target because I am starting the whole insecurity apple cart all over again,
because the real understanding of Jesus is just missing.
My favourite character in scripture is Mary Magdeline. She gave her all to her Lord, and just
loved Him, and He appreaciated this. I suspect she was the woman caught in adultery.
He knows us and loves us, and sin is something profoundly wrong but conquered.
The Lord is so much more than theological ideas, or constructs, or easy solutions.
This is eternal significance, yet I do not read this is many of the words or approaches here.
the Holy Spirit, so all the glory goes to Him. Now I have never thought of bring praise to myself
because how could I a failed sinner.
This is why I find this is a straw man question.
It is like saying who motivates you to do good works? Because of Christs love it is Christ.
If you know how lost one is without Christ, everything in ones heart desires to bring things
back to Him, because He is the source of life.
My only question to those who raise such questions, is, do you know the brutality of the cross
the suffering and shame involved, and you and I put Him there. And He forgives us.
Everything feeds from this. To not listen and obey the Lord is to dishonour this very act,
which we learn each day to value more.
Now what flabbergasts me is this fascination with safety. Christ is about risk, faith, knowing
righteousness and love conquers sin every time, purity and holiness is everything. A corrupt
split society rots from the inside out. To walk in Christ is not to know who will overturn you
persecute and destroy what you have, but it does not matter because you know Jesus.
So if you know Jesus, why do you need a theology of being safe? Do you not trust Him?
If I had a friend and we made a deal, but I wanted penalty clauses, a commitment that no
matter what I would be safe, would this convey trust and being a team together, or I did
not trust him at all and wanted my end safe. So I suspect things are really very different
than people admit to, and they are not sure of their relationship with God, and want so
reassurance or else they will lie awake in fear it will all go wrong.
And I become a target because I am starting the whole insecurity apple cart all over again,
because the real understanding of Jesus is just missing.
My favourite character in scripture is Mary Magdeline. She gave her all to her Lord, and just
loved Him, and He appreaciated this. I suspect she was the woman caught in adultery.
He knows us and loves us, and sin is something profoundly wrong but conquered.
The Lord is so much more than theological ideas, or constructs, or easy solutions.
This is eternal significance, yet I do not read this is many of the words or approaches here.
You mean that big cheesy grin that takes up most the screen on my IPad?
I would love to have a big smiley face like that?
Me?
I think I'm a mongrel.
My ancestors were Muslim, including my mum.
I wasn't exposed to it full on but the roots were their and made known.
When I fostered out I was taken to an Anglican Church, but had exposure to the Catholic Church as a result of going to a Catholic School.
When I left for college I ended up at Baptist Church then I ended up at the current church I go to. Been in it for 27 years.
Not sure how I would describe it. It's a New Frontiers International Church.
The focus is on a church that is the same as the early New Testament Church.
I would love to have a big smiley face like that?
Me?
I think I'm a mongrel.
My ancestors were Muslim, including my mum.
I wasn't exposed to it full on but the roots were their and made known.
When I fostered out I was taken to an Anglican Church, but had exposure to the Catholic Church as a result of going to a Catholic School.
When I left for college I ended up at Baptist Church then I ended up at the current church I go to. Been in it for 27 years.
Not sure how I would describe it. It's a New Frontiers International Church.
The focus is on a church that is the same as the early New Testament Church.
This is not answering the question. And the answer is behaviour matters.
Faith alone is not enough, it needs to be reflected in a faithful loving walk.
I do not know why you cannot admit this simple point. The law of Christ is
the law of love. If you had met people soaked in hatred and animosity, you
would know how profound Jesus is and His walk.
We can get hyper sensitive to issues that God is not worried about, and miss
the very ones His heart breaks over, people being lost, alone without even one
friend in the whole world who cares about them. We have a world full of people
yet loneliness and isolation, depression and anxiety are the biggest problems people
face.
And you want to ask me to repent about your unusual view on security in Christ.
We need to learn how to reach out and help people belong and know we love them
and God loves them at a level it would blow their minds. The cross is stunning, enough
to knock anyone over if they see it, properly.
Faith alone is not enough, it needs to be reflected in a faithful loving walk.
I do not know why you cannot admit this simple point. The law of Christ is
the law of love. If you had met people soaked in hatred and animosity, you
would know how profound Jesus is and His walk.
We can get hyper sensitive to issues that God is not worried about, and miss
the very ones His heart breaks over, people being lost, alone without even one
friend in the whole world who cares about them. We have a world full of people
yet loneliness and isolation, depression and anxiety are the biggest problems people
face.
And you want to ask me to repent about your unusual view on security in Christ.
We need to learn how to reach out and help people belong and know we love them
and God loves them at a level it would blow their minds. The cross is stunning, enough
to knock anyone over if they see it, properly.
I find that question hard to answer, not because the question is wrong but because I know what I am like and what I feel about myself as a person.
Believe it or not my wife and I have were asked to lead a new ministry in our church just over 6 months ago. I love it.
But then I find myself constantly thinking, saying "God why on earth are using me, I'm a screw up"
I also have the problem of looking inwards a lot and looking at my negatives as a person, focus on that and plead to God help me.
Believe it or not my wife and I have were asked to lead a new ministry in our church just over 6 months ago. I love it.
But then I find myself constantly thinking, saying "God why on earth are using me, I'm a screw up"
I also have the problem of looking inwards a lot and looking at my negatives as a person, focus on that and plead to God help me.