Not By Works

[FollowHisSteps]

The bolded part is a colossal lie. I have always said we should live lives pleasing to the Lord. My beef is with those who claim they don't sin, or preach sinless living to others while knowing full well they themselves sin as much as everyone else.

I think my friend you have summarised your own problem.
You could be the only person in the world is sinless, or the worst sinner ever, I do not know, because
all I know is your sentence you have typed.

You declare someone you do not know, knows they sin as much as everyone else.
Now we all know we sin differently, some dedicated to abuse and a life a crime while others are
dedicated to a life of peace and love. So your claim is simply not true.

Now if someone wants to believe they live a pure Holy life, amen, I hope it is true.
Self doubt though is a sign of true insight, and knowing we can fall in unknown ways, is true
wisdom. So though we aim to walk like Jesus, we strive to achieve and know this more day by day.

And I am called to be a light not to judge others over things I do not know.
So my point is you give yourself the right to speak about things you literally do not know but only
project. So thank you for declaring my point 100%, and showing I am exactly right, God bless you.

 

[Budman]

except for Bud's "you made a statement that applies to everyone, therefore it applies to me, therefore you are fruit inspecting.

Yet again:

everyone

/ˈevrēˌwən/
pronoun

1. every person.

 

[Macabeus]

Post number please.

Well, where is it?

 

[Macabeus]

Yet again:

everyone

/ˈevrēˌwən/
pronoun

1. every person.

According to your half baked argument, the following analogy adequetely defines "inspecting fruit". Read it over and over again till you get it.

Jimmy needed a fruit inspector to inspect his apples. So he called Budman

Jimmy- I need someone to inspect my apples.

Budman- Ok, I charge 10 dollars a bushel. How many bushels do you have?

Jimmy- That sounds fair. I have ten bushels

Budman- OK. Every apple that has maggots on it is bad. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay over the phone?

 

[Budman]

Post number please.

#96,551

 

[Budman]

Well, where is it?

I just gave it.

 

[Budman]

Yet again:

everyone

/ˈevrēˌwən/
pronoun

1. every person.

Laugh all you like, Mac. It's basic grammar.

 

[Macabeus]

It applies to everyone. That is what general means. IT is not inspecting anyone, it is stating a general principle. In other words, YOU and OTHERS LIED. The Flesh lies, not the Spirit. You should sit down now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, NONE of your claims are in this post.

 

[Macabeus]

A scriptural principle will have individual application otherwise it serves no purpose and therefore not a principle.

Jimmy needed a fruit inspector to inspect his apples. So he called Budman

Jimmy- I need someone to inspect my apples.

Budman- Ok, I charge 10 dollars a bushel. How many bushels do you have?

Jimmy- That sounds fair. I have ten bushels

Budman- OK. Every apple that has maggots on it is bad. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay over the phone?

Every apple that has maggots is bad is an general principle with an individual application. But did Jimmy actually inspect fruit here?

See how silly your argument (and Bud's) is?

 

[Budman]

According to your half baked argument, the following analogy adequetely defines "inspecting fruit". Read it over and over again till you get it.

Jimmy needed a fruit inspector to inspect his apples. So he called Budman

Jimmy- I need someone to inspect my apples.

Budman- Ok, I charge 10 dollars a bushel. How many bushels do you have?

Jimmy- That sounds fair. I have ten bushels

Budman- OK. Every apple that has maggots on it is bad. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay over the phone?

Me: How are the apples?

You: Every one has worms.

Me: Does that apply to all of them?

You: Yes.

When I asked you if your statement applied to individuals, you said it applied to everyone.

YOU included all. Every single person.

 

[Budman]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, NONE of your claims are in this post.

Mac, you're losing it, pal. I specifically asked you if your statement applies to individuals, you said it applied to everyone. Everyone literally means "every person", yet you'll stand there and deny basic English grammar in an attempt to justify yourself.

Anyone going back and reading the whole post can see that immediately.

 

[Macabeus]

Me: How are the apples?

You: Every one has worms.

Me: Does that apply to all of them?

You: Yes.

When I asked you if your statement applied to individuals, you said it applied to everyone.

YOU included all. Every single person.

When did I say anything akin to everyone has worms in reference to specific individuals.

Or did you say y'all have worms?

 

[Macabeus]

Mac, you're losing it, pal. I specifically asked you if your statement applies to individuals, you said it applied to everyone. Everyone literally means "every person", yet you'll stand there and deny basic English grammar in an attempt to justify yourself.

Anyone going back and reading the whole post can see that immediately.

Jimmy needed a fruit inspector to inspect his apples. So he called Budman

Jimmy- I need someone to inspect my apples.

Budman- Ok, I charge 10 dollars a bushel. How many bushels do you have?

Jimmy- That sounds fair. I have ten bushels

Budman- OK. Every apple that has maggots on it is bad. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay over the phone?

Every apple that has maggots is bad is an general principle with an individual application. But did Jimmy actually inspect fruit here?

See how silly your argument is?

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Buds contributions are an interesting point.
I have seen him say he hates hypocrisy, and desires to expose it all the time.
Now this is a good aim, if we were talking about evil behaviour.

What we are talking about is a guy who says he sins all the time and cannot stand
people who suggest they behave differently to him. It is funny, because this is a posting
forum with a few sentences put by contributors. One has literally no way of knowing someone
elses life whether a statement about themselves is true or not. So zero ability to judge, but
100% ability to project and then judge. And this is in essence the 100% example of what judgementalism
is, judging people not by who they are or what has happened, but merely by ones own agenda.

I can rightly judge this behaviour as sinful and wrong, from beginning to end. It has no foundation
either in truth, Gods word or sanity. It is merely aimed to create condemnation in the readers hearts so
that they might feel condemned and thereby, in the writers mind, rest on Christ alone to forgive them as
they continue sinning and failing without break.

It is like a group in a bar, drunk as anything cheering that God has saved them, while doing all the
worldly things they want, enslaved by sinful desires and denying there is ever any freedom.

It is like Jesus saying to the woman caught in adultery, I have forgiven your sins, so carry on like before,
you are going to heaven, congratulations. No Jesus says this

10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11 "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
John 8

The bolded part is a colossal lie. I have always said we should live lives pleasing to the Lord. My beef is with those who claim they don't sin, or preach sinless living to others while knowing full well they themselves sin as much as everyone else.

Lol.

knowing full well they themselves sin as much as everyone else

Everyone is sinning as much as everyone else - we are all the same, proposition being made.

My beef is with those who claim they don't sin, or preach sinless living to others

People who are different than those who sin like everyone else.

My sentence was "cannot stand people who suggest they behave differently to him"

Seems to be exactly what he is saying

You cannot make this stuff up, people would say "no one would say that"

 

[Budman]

When did I say anything akin to everyone has worms in reference to specific individuals

Just using the apples analogy you love to push right back atcha, Mac. Everyone means every person, and everyone means every apple.

 

[Macabeus]

Elementary school children could see the flaw in your argument, Budman.

It's been fun, but I have to go to work. Got a few laughs this morning, thanks.

 

[Macabeus]

Just using the apples analogy you love to push right back atcha, Mac. Everyone means every person, and everyone means every apple.

Yep, and in the analogy, Jimmy did not actually inspect the apples. GO BACK and read the analogy. Did Jimmy actually inspect the apples? No

 

[Budman]

Elementary school children could see the flaw in your argument, Budman.

It's been fun, but I have to go to work. Got a few laughs this morning, thanks.

My only flaw would be trying to make a blind person see a definition right in front of their face.

 

[Budman]

Yep, and in the analogy, Jimmy did not actually inspect the apples. GO BACK and read the analogy. Did Jimmy actually inspect the apples? No

But you inspected them by claiming "everyone".

 

[Macabeus]

My only flaw would be trying to make a blind person see a definition right in front of their face.

making a general statement that applies to everyone is not fruit inspection any more than saying "all apples with worms are rotten" qualifies you as a fruit inspector.