Hebrews 13:5
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Let your character be free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, " I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU,"
KennethC, how can one lose their Salvation if God has said He will NEVER desert us or forsake us?
There are many people who REFUSE to accept Jesus and who REFUSE to follow Him. Its these people that God talks about in Matthew 7 and Matthew 25.
Everything thing you have shown us is all about those who REFUSE to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Its NOT about those who HAVE accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior!
You are trying to mix Apples with rocks. They are not the same. These people know about God but have never accept God. You cannot mix the two together and try to prove we can lose our Salvation by sinning!
This is the problem with you KennethC, you are trying to deceive people with your false doctrines.
Could it be KennethC that you have never accepted Jesus and do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit and this is why you are trying to deceive people with your false doctrines?
This is why people do not understand scripture because they only look at as they have been taught by another to see it just from one side.
He will never leave nor forsake us is talking about believers in Him who when going through hardships, trails, and tribulations here on earth. This has nothing to do with one who walks away from the faith in the Lord, as the bible says and shows can and will happen.
Apostle Paul repeats multiple times falling from, departing, and not continuing in the faith will and does happen.
Read
Acts 20:28:31, Col. 1:21-23, 1 Corinthians 8:11, 9:27, James 5:12-20, 2 Peter 2:1-14, Galatians 5:1-4,13........
These are just a few and they are said to believers !!!
There are a number of other scriptures warning believers of returning to sin and leaving the faith as well.
You claim I am trying to deceive people but what you don't see is that me and you come from similar back grounds.
Both grown up in Baptist upbringings, went to the Catholic church for a little but left do to false teachings because of our Baptist roots that spotted this. The difference between you and me though is I left to go seeking God's truth by His word and His Holy Spirit's guidance to know His knowledge and truth, but you on the other hand left a bad doctrine to go to another in OSAS.
Calvin's teachings are full of controversy and lies when it comes to comparing it to scripture............
Learn the difference between stumbling and continuing to live a lifestyle of deliberate sinning and then maybe we can have a decent friendly debate. Until then your false discernment that has hatred behind it in your statements are clear evidence that you don't have the gift you claim to have.
I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and I follow His teachings and commands out of that faith and love for Him. Even Jesus and His Holy Spirit said many will depart/fall from the faith
(Matthew 24:10-13, 1 Timothy 4:1), please take your debate with them in prayer for understanding instead of trying to falsely accuse me of false teaching.