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2Thewaters

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there are churches that reject WHOLE BOOKS of the Bible
they dont believe
 
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biscuit

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so what exactly are these "requirements" then? Could you give them all and pair them with passages out the Bible?
The basic requirements are as poster 2Thewaters gave and they are repent your sins, believe the word of God and obey His laws, statues & commandments. In other words you are now a new creature in Christ and you cannot turn back or go back to your old ways. Yes, we do have relapses and we need to beg for forgiveness and repent the sins. I won't give you all the bible verses because you need to learn them in order to grow wiser with wisdom in the Scriptures. I will give you bible verses connected to being saved. Stay tuned.
 

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The basic requirements are as poster 2Thewaters gave and they are repent your sins, believe the word of God and obey His laws, statues & commandments. In other words you are now a new creature in Christ and you cannot turn back or go back to your old ways. Yes, we do have relapses and we need to beg for forgiveness and repent the sins. I won't give you all the bible verses because you need to learn them in order to grow wiser with wisdom in the Scriptures. I will give you bible verses connected to being saved. Stay tuned.
This word "requirements" is absolutely horrid when speaking of salvation.
Please, please, please reconsider what you are implying.

The Word that we share with each other, and the goal that we have as the Church, is one of pursuing holiness in all things, and to praise and glorify God in all we do.
The word "requirement" makes it sound like you would not do those things unless you had to to not go to hell.
That makes you sound like a very lost person. Please reconsider who you are trusting?
Yourself, or Christ.

I am an overcomer of sin, and a pursuer of holiness,
not because it is required for salvation
(Christ paid what was required. The Blood of the Spotless Lamb was the only requirement)
I do these things because I LOVE my Lord, because He first loved me.
I want to please Him, and share His love with others.

If I was doing these things to maintain my salvation, then the works would be for the wrong motive,
and the result would be me being unsaved.
 
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The basic requirements are as poster 2Thewaters gave and they are repent your sins, believe the word of God and obey His laws, statues & commandments. In other words you are now a new creature in Christ and you cannot turn back or go back to your old ways. Yes, we do have relapses and we need to beg for forgiveness and repent the sins. I won't give you all the bible verses because you need to learn them in order to grow wiser with wisdom in the Scriptures. I will give you bible verses connected to being saved. Stay tuned.
are you a jew or a gentile. who gave the law given to moses, to a gentile. even Cornelius never repented.(act 10)
you cant follow basic, I am not jewish, so rebuilding law given to moses into a gentile life, is pointless.
act 15, prove that there the was not for a gentile, ie they would have just said follow that law.(moses)
I will stay tuned, to how you try and build jewish law in to grace, 3.16 john. who saves, and what do you need to do to be saved. strange all the apostils are jewish, yet only jewish people were at Pentecost.
acts 10 proves that Cornelius (being a gentile) even the people with peter never knew what god had planned.(ie being the first gentile , so no gentiles at Pentecost) yet went out side law, and followed what, the spirit told them to do, even the apostil peter. so what jewish person gave the gentile the full law of moses, because even act 15, proves they don't need to follow the full law.
and if your going to reply, to my post address what I say in it.
 
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biscuit

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This word "requirements" is absolutely horrid when speaking of salvation.
Please, please, please reconsider what you are implying.

The Word that we share with each other, and the goal that we have as the Church, is one of pursuing holiness in all things, and to praise and glorify God in all we do.
The word "requirement" makes it sound like you would not do those things unless you had to to not go to hell.
That makes you sound like a very lost person. Please reconsider who you are trusting?
Yourself, or Christ.

I am an overcomer of sin, and a pursuer of holiness,
not because it is required for salvation
(Christ paid what was required. The Blood of the Spotless Lamb was the only requirement)
I do these things because I LOVE my Lord, because He first loved me.
I want to please Him, and share His love with others.

If I was doing these things to maintain my salvation, then the works would be for the wrong motive,
and the result would be me being unsaved.
Sorry, you are the one lost.
 
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biscuit

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are you a jew or a gentile. who gave the law given to moses, to a gentile. even Cornelius never repented.(act 10)
you cant follow basic, I am not jewish, so rebuilding law given to moses into a gentile life, is pointless.
act 15, prove that there the was not for a gentile, ie they would have just said follow that law.(moses)
I will stay tuned, to how you try and build jewish law in to grace, 3.16 john. who saves, and what do you need to do to be saved. strange all the apostils are jewish, yet only jewish people were at Pentecost.
acts 10 proves that Cornelius (being a gentile) even the people with peter never knew what god had planned.(ie being the first gentile , so no gentiles at Pentecost) yet went out side law, and followed what, the spirit told them to do, even the apostil peter. so what jewish person gave the gentile the full law of moses, because even act 15, proves they don't need to follow the full law.
and if your going to reply, to my post address what I say in it.
Please concentrate on the NT. Thanks
 
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biscuit

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there are churches that reject WHOLE BOOKS of the Bible
they dont believe
You got that right!!! Some of these posters are even worse with no idea on how to translate the bible verses. They are too dependent on youtube or some street corner minister. If only they would read their bible in its entirety and invest time & research into the true interpretation instead of relying on these "sheep in wolves' clothing."
 

SolidGround

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Sorry, you are the one lost.
I am lost because I have faith in Christ as my savior?
I am lost because I follow what He says?
I am lost because I know He is sufficient for my every need?
I am lost because I resist temptation?
I am lost because I pursue holiness?
I am lost because I serve my brothers and sisters in Christ?

For which of these am I condemned?


If you are serving others for selfish reasons (like to escape hell) then there is no love in them, and they are worthless works.

Once you put your faith in Christ, instead of requirements, then you will be able to serve others with a pure heart.
 
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biscuit

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The basic requirements are as poster 2Thewaters gave and they are repent your sins, believe the word of God and obey His laws, statues & commandments. In other words you are now a new creature in Christ and you cannot turn back or go back to your old ways. Yes, we do have relapses and we need to beg for forgiveness and repent the sins. I won't give you all the bible verses because you need to learn them in order to grow wiser with wisdom in the Scriptures. I will give you bible verses connected or indirectly to being saved. Stay tuned.
Luke 15:10
Luke 24:46-49
2 Corinthians 5:17
Galatians 5:16-26
1John 2:15-16
John 14:13-21
Galatians 5:19-21
 
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biscuit

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I am lost because I have faith in Christ as my savior?
I am lost because I follow what He says?
I am lost because I know He is sufficient for my every need?
I am lost because I resist temptation?
I am lost because I pursue holiness?
I am lost because I serve my brothers and sisters in Christ?

For which of these am I condemned?


If you are serving others for selfish reasons (like to escape hell) then there is no love in them, and they are worthless works.

Once you put your faith in Christ, instead of requirements, then you will be able to serve others with a pure heart.
You are lost because you have personal issues. When a poster is willing to tear down a post over one word that she doesn't like .... she has issues & lost. There are some incredible Christians out there but there are also many with "mental disorders."
 

SolidGround

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You are lost because you have personal issues. When a poster is willing to tear down a post over one word that she doesn't like .... she has issues & lost. There are some incredible Christians out there but there are also many with "mental disorders."
Forgive me then. It seems I've offended you to quite an end.
My intention was not to offend you, which is why i said please so many times.

In my defense, this is a discussion forum. Wording is important. Our words are all we have here (and our profile pics I guess).

I wish you would reread my post with the mindset that I was not trying to offend, but trying to edify, and help you choose better wording to express the necessity of being faithful after salvation,
so that those who are new in Christ will not be led astray through misunderstanding.


I forgive you for your comments in your last two responses to me.

btw, another possible misunderstanding: I'm a male :)
 
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wgeurts

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Luke 15:10
Luke 24:46-49
2 Corinthians 5:17
Galatians 5:16-26
1John 2:15-16
John 14:13-21
Galatians 5:19-21
I will have a look at these when I have time but expect comments and arguments against if I find any.
 
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biscuit

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Forgive me then. It seems I've offended you to quite an end.
My intention was not to offend you, which is why i said please so many times.

In my defense, this is a discussion forum. Wording is important. Our words are all we have here (and our profile pics I guess).

I wish you would reread my post with the mindset that I was not trying to offend, but trying to edify, and help you choose better wording to express the necessity of being faithful after salvation,
so that those who are new in Christ will not be led astray through misunderstanding.


I forgive you for your comments in your last two responses to me.

btw, another possible misunderstanding: I'm a male :)
Your tactics would be better suited for a classroom in Israel. I will not tolerate your arrogance.
 

SolidGround

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Your tactics would be better suited for a classroom in Israel. I will not tolerate your arrogance.
I guess you don't accept my apology, and aren't retracting your insults.

I have no idea what about an Israeli classroom would suit me better than this forum and this thread, lol.
You're gonna have to explain that one.
but wait,
I won't be able to read your response, because....

Ignore button activated.
 
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biscuit

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I will have a look at these when I have time but expect comments and arguments against if I find any.
I suggest you find what you are looking for through your own research & investigation. I will not do the work for you. You are on an adult board and I suggest you show some respect. If not, I suggest you go back to the kiddie's board and stay there. I have found all of my answers through research and asking others with respect.
 
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biscuit

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I guess you don't accept my apology, and aren't retracting your insults.

I have no idea what about an Israeli classroom would suit me better than this forum and this thread, lol.
You're gonna have to explain that one.
but wait,
I won't be able to read your response, because....

Ignore button activated.
Pleasant dreams ... good night
 
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It has absolutely nothing to do with what I am posting???
Originally Posted by biscuit
Please concentrate on the NT. Thanks


that is the new covenant, and the new testament, what part of acts 10/15 don't you understand (my quote)
is this not in the nt. so did you say the former , and I answered with my quote.
make up your mind
 
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biscuit

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Originally Posted by biscuit
Please concentrate on the NT. Thanks


that is the new covenant, and the new testament, what part of acts 10/15 don't you understand (my quote)
is this not in the nt. so did you say the former , and I answered with my quote.
make up your mind
I got "Georgia On My Mind.":D