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Not me. If I believed and understood something incorrectly, I'd want to know. It wasn't an easy journey for any of us former pre-miller's,... which the overwhelming majority of us once were. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many haven't even heard of anything besides the pre-trib rapture doctrine and all of it's accompaniments. For many, it's an accepted "given". It's all they've ever heard. Today's signs and wonders crowd see the return of the "five-fold" ministry ...i.e.... the "offices" of apostles and prophets, the manifestation(s) of God's Spirit thru modern day tongues etc. etc. as God pouring out his Spirit upon mankind in these last days. I (and many others) see the pouring out of God's Spirit as a revelation of His truth ... and understanding it. And most importantly, receiving His grace thru faith to be alright with it, come what may.
Im wondering what some of you think about the comet, called apophis, that is to pass close to earth in 2029?
Then return again in 2036.
Since the root name of apophis is wormwood, and this comet has the potential of hitting earth,or causeing major damage in 2029 or on its return in 2036.
I just have found it interesting, and wonder about it.
As is has alot that might fit into what is spoken to in revelations.
God bless
pickles
Then return again in 2036.
Since the root name of apophis is wormwood, and this comet has the potential of hitting earth,or causeing major damage in 2029 or on its return in 2036.
I just have found it interesting, and wonder about it.
As is has alot that might fit into what is spoken to in revelations.
God bless
pickles
Wiki states:
"On Friday, April 13, 2029, Apophis will pass Earth within the orbits of geosynchronous communication satellites.[15] It will return for another close Earth approach in 2036.
The 2029 pass will actually be much closer than the first predictions, but the uncertainty is such that an impact is ruled out. Similarly, the pass on April 13, 2036, carries little risk of an impact."
99942 Apophis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- link
[15] ^ McGuire, Bill (2005). Global Catastrophes: A Very Short Introduction. US: Oxford University Press. p. 5. ISBN 0-19-280493-6.
"On Friday, April 13, 2029, Apophis will pass Earth within the orbits of geosynchronous communication satellites.[15] It will return for another close Earth approach in 2036.
The 2029 pass will actually be much closer than the first predictions, but the uncertainty is such that an impact is ruled out. Similarly, the pass on April 13, 2036, carries little risk of an impact."
99942 Apophis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- link
[15] ^ McGuire, Bill (2005). Global Catastrophes: A Very Short Introduction. US: Oxford University Press. p. 5. ISBN 0-19-280493-6.
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Red for them to ask when He would restore Israel...to you infers He will. Now i could teach a hundred
heresys with that logic. But you cant so easily handle the bible that way.
Fact is He did on Pentecost, Paul explains that in Romans. And its eternal, everlasting....not 1000yrs.
I only answered this because if not youd think you had a point, that stumpted someone.
heresys with that logic. But you cant so easily handle the bible that way.
Fact is He did on Pentecost, Paul explains that in Romans. And its eternal, everlasting....not 1000yrs.
I only answered this because if not youd think you had a point, that stumpted someone.
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YES you are correct, and incorrect.
Jesus is reigning now!!!!! On Davids throne(with True Israel) which is eternal(not 1000yes)
Correct there are still rebels that He will put under His feet, then He will take up(not down)
the kingdom to the Father.
Problem is when that happens when all enemies are put under His feet Death is the last one.
Cant have a earthly kingdom with enemies and death after enemies and death were defeated
and eliminated. 1cor15 And this happens at His return. not 1000 years later.
People try to make Rev 20 say "MORE" than whats said about satan so they can knock down
the eschatological implications. Which i think is immature or dishonest.
I had to start with the New Testement. Specifically what Jesus said and the apostles.
Then let that new revelation help me interpret the Old Testament prophecies and Revelation.
I think any other order will lead to error.
Jesus is reigning now!!!!! On Davids throne(with True Israel) which is eternal(not 1000yes)
Correct there are still rebels that He will put under His feet, then He will take up(not down)
the kingdom to the Father.
Problem is when that happens when all enemies are put under His feet Death is the last one.
Cant have a earthly kingdom with enemies and death after enemies and death were defeated
and eliminated. 1cor15 And this happens at His return. not 1000 years later.
People try to make Rev 20 say "MORE" than whats said about satan so they can knock down
the eschatological implications. Which i think is immature or dishonest.
I had to start with the New Testement. Specifically what Jesus said and the apostles.
Then let that new revelation help me interpret the Old Testament prophecies and Revelation.
I think any other order will lead to error.
There is so much presented to us in the scriptures giving us understanding about the kingdom age that is to come, the type of government of that age and what goes on during that 1,000 reign, which is absolutely future, and Christ will be upon the throne of David during that reign upon the earth. It is inconceivable that anyone would even consider the possibility that we have been living in this reign for the past 2,000 plus years. It is irresponsible and reckless to say the least. To even deal with these people on this site who are amillennialist is not a good endeavor and it profits nothing. They can react as they wish but to respond to any of them further is an exercise in futility.
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Oh Please red we already heard all that. Too many times by the way. Weve even sold posters and tshirts.
Are you here in a bible discussion forum to discuss bible or just pontificate? Obfuscate?
Red is Jesus sitting on Davids throne now?
Is eternal eternal or is eternal 1000 years?
Are you a royal priest? Are you a king seated in the Heavenlies? With the King of Kings?
Notice you ask questions to corner or contend but when sufficiently answered
each time you come back with emotional attitude only. Never a dialogue.
Do you have anything at all to share about the topic of Rev 20:1-10? Or just a heckler?
Are you here in a bible discussion forum to discuss bible or just pontificate? Obfuscate?
Red is Jesus sitting on Davids throne now?
Is eternal eternal or is eternal 1000 years?
Are you a royal priest? Are you a king seated in the Heavenlies? With the King of Kings?
Notice you ask questions to corner or contend but when sufficiently answered
each time you come back with emotional attitude only. Never a dialogue.
Do you have anything at all to share about the topic of Rev 20:1-10? Or just a heckler?
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Jesus put all His enemies under His foot when He tossed Satan and 1/3 of the angels out of Heaven. Because Jesus is in Heaven NOW on His throne NOW and the Earth is His footstool.
so when it states in Revelation that Satan was tossed out, then they are under His feet.
1260 days after Jesus ascension war broke out in Heaven and Satan and his angels were cast down and placed under Jesus feet.
Isaiah 66:1
Thus says the LORD: “Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?
does anyone not believe that Jesus is reigning in His throne now?
or that Satan hasn't been tossed out of Heaven yet?
so when it states in Revelation that Satan was tossed out, then they are under His feet.
1260 days after Jesus ascension war broke out in Heaven and Satan and his angels were cast down and placed under Jesus feet.
Isaiah 66:1
Thus says the LORD: “Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?
does anyone not believe that Jesus is reigning in His throne now?
or that Satan hasn't been tossed out of Heaven yet?
Do you have anything at all to share about the topic of Rev 20:1-10? Or just a heckler?
I already have many times over so, go take your royal kingly hike into your vast kingdom that has already come and see if you can make peace with your local grizzly bear and make sure that you impress your subjects, with that stiff-neck and your old sin nature still intact and with a perishing body laden with the corruption of the flesh ready to take on the grave.
I already have many times over so, go take your royal kingly hike into your vast kingdom that has already come and see if you can make peace with your local grizzly bear and make sure that you impress your subjects, with that stiff-neck and your old sin nature still intact and with a perishing body laden with the corruption of the flesh ready to take on the grave.
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Red to me your typically everything you call others. Ive never called you names.
Also Yes Jesus is sitting on Davids throne just as prophecy promised. Read Acts. Peter taught this right after
Pentecost. So really your the one with scriptural problems. Its not a personal problem between you and me.
I didnt write the book. And i think it reads pretty clear.
Also Yes Jesus is sitting on Davids throne just as prophecy promised. Read Acts. Peter taught this right after
Pentecost. So really your the one with scriptural problems. Its not a personal problem between you and me.
I didnt write the book. And i think it reads pretty clear.