Sabbath: The Lord's Day
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to see a strong sabbath day faith is refereshing but there are many topic and subject to be discussed
I have to get ready for sabbath day class
if anyone would like to join me please tune in at 10:00 am central time or 1:30pm central time
tell me what you think of the service setup and lesson
please!
go to the webpage and click sabbath day live at 10:00AM central time OR 1:30PM central time
not before those times
http://www.theisraelofgod.com
at the top left you will see a box sabbath day live
click the box at the specified time
10:00AM CENTRAL
1:30PM CENTRAL
WE HAVE TwO CLASSES this is why we have the two time slots
peace to you all in the mighty name of Jesus
I have to get ready for sabbath day class
if anyone would like to join me please tune in at 10:00 am central time or 1:30pm central time
tell me what you think of the service setup and lesson
please!
go to the webpage and click sabbath day live at 10:00AM central time OR 1:30PM central time
not before those times
http://www.theisraelofgod.com
at the top left you will see a box sabbath day live
click the box at the specified time
10:00AM CENTRAL
1:30PM CENTRAL
WE HAVE TwO CLASSES this is why we have the two time slots
peace to you all in the mighty name of Jesus
all people except God's servants think the day starts at 12:00 am
this is wrong
the new day starts at sundown
Genesis 1
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
where is the change if the day starts at 12:00am? its the same as 11:00pm or 2:00am
yet at evening we see a change, God know what he is doing.
this is why the Christians cant get Easter right, they don;t understand the passover and they don't understand when God day begins and ends.
that why I question do they really believe in Jesus
Genesis 1
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
God created the heavens and eart in 6 days
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
man was created on the six day
God gave man 6 days to labor
so we start our count for man to labor on the 6th day
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
you learn a lot in this creation
how long has this creation been in existence?
is the day of past presence or future?
did Jesus or the Father rest?
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
God created the heavens and eart in 6 days
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
man was created on the six day
God gave man 6 days to labor
so we start our count for man to labor on the 6th day
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
you learn a lot in this creation
how long has this creation been in existence?
is the day of past presence or future?
did Jesus or the Father rest?
so I will leave you with this i have to go to sabbath day class
who taught you the word of God?
is it the people God gave the oracles to the (teachers) or the students thes so-called denominations
think about it
the student cant get the correct day to worship on right
the student cant get 3 days and 3 nights right
the student don't ant to understand Jesus was not born on december 25th
who taught you the word of God?
is it the people God gave the oracles to the (teachers) or the students thes so-called denominations
think about it
the student cant get the correct day to worship on right
the student cant get 3 days and 3 nights right
the student don't ant to understand Jesus was not born on december 25th
the sabbath is suppose to be holy, and sanctified.
Go out side today and see if the people you know are followers of Jesus doing this
see if the followers of Jesus are going to church on the sabbath and reading there bibles
Luke 4:16
And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
next
on sunday the so-called christian day of worship see if they are keeping it holy. they may go to church but afterwards watch what they do. they don't keep it holy
you cant buy or sell on the sabbath
you cant do you own pleasure on the sabbath
the sabbath is the ONLY day the Lord asked from us for you to set aside to him
no washing cars or clothes
no movies or dinning out
no pleasures
Isaiah 58:13
If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
even speaking your own words is prohibited!!!
Go out side today and see if the people you know are followers of Jesus doing this
see if the followers of Jesus are going to church on the sabbath and reading there bibles
Luke 4:16
And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
next
on sunday the so-called christian day of worship see if they are keeping it holy. they may go to church but afterwards watch what they do. they don't keep it holy
you cant buy or sell on the sabbath
you cant do you own pleasure on the sabbath
the sabbath is the ONLY day the Lord asked from us for you to set aside to him
no washing cars or clothes
no movies or dinning out
no pleasures
Isaiah 58:13
If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
even speaking your own words is prohibited!!!
It was His CUSTOM. Not that it was a commandment to go to the synagogue, but by the tradition of the people who gathered there on that day. Jesus like us all MUST do the work of Him who sent us while it is STILL DAY! The NIGHT comes when NO MAN CAN WORK!
Sounds familiar doesn't it? Jesus obeyed the sabbath day by RESTING IN THE GRAVE.
Sounds familiar doesn't it? Jesus obeyed the sabbath day by RESTING IN THE GRAVE.
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Ozell....this goes hand in hand with my post....although I too believe that God's sabbath is and always will be on the 7th day...for those that are worshiping God on other days my question to them is, "Are they keeping whichever day they are serving the Lord on HOLY?"
There is only one that can declare something as Holy; God! And God has given us what He says is the way for us to keep the sabbath Holy;
Rest!
Have a Holy convocation!
No cooking!
No buying or selling!
No work!
Not doing our own pleasures!
So no matter what day you observe as your sabbath day, are you keeping it Holy the way God has instructed us?
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There is only one that can declare something as Holy; God! And God has given us what He says is the way for us to keep the sabbath Holy;
Rest!
Have a Holy convocation!
No cooking!
No buying or selling!
No work!
Not doing our own pleasures!
So no matter what day you observe as your sabbath day, are you keeping it Holy the way God has instructed us?
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are you putting to death violators of the Sabbath?
if you're not, you are the one not obeying it.
were your ancestors at Sinai?
picking and choosing from the Old Covenant - mixing it with the New.
this is apostasy.
how is it you do not understand what Jesus is saying here?
Mark 2 - 21 'And no one a patch of undressed cloth doth sew on an old garment, and if not -- the new filling it up doth take from the old and the rent doth become worse; 22 and no one doth put new wine into old skins, and if not -- the new wine doth burst the skins, and the wine is poured out, and the skins will be destroyed; but new wine into new skins is to be put.'
if you're not, you are the one not obeying it.
were your ancestors at Sinai?
picking and choosing from the Old Covenant - mixing it with the New.
this is apostasy.
how is it you do not understand what Jesus is saying here?
Mark 2 - 21 'And no one a patch of undressed cloth doth sew on an old garment, and if not -- the new filling it up doth take from the old and the rent doth become worse; 22 and no one doth put new wine into old skins, and if not -- the new wine doth burst the skins, and the wine is poured out, and the skins will be destroyed; but new wine into new skins is to be put.'
E
The phrase, "It is written..." was used over 60 times in the NT. The place where it was written was from the OT. I'm sure Jesus and those that followed and was taught by Him used and quoted the OT a lot. It seems that OT scriptures was used a bit during the times of Jesus and the apostles.
Let's read what Tim had to say about the OT;
2 Tim.3
[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Timothy tells us that the OT scriptures could make one wise even unto salvation!
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Let's read what Tim had to say about the OT;
2 Tim.3
[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Timothy tells us that the OT scriptures could make one wise even unto salvation!
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if you want to go back under the Old Covenant, keep ALL OF IT.
Exodus 35
Sabbath Regulations
1Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. 3Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”
James 2 10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point, he hath become guilty of all;
Hebrews 10 1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship
Exodus 35
Sabbath Regulations
1Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. 3Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”
James 2 10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point, he hath become guilty of all;
Hebrews 10 1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship
E
While we are to keep Gods laws...as long as we know for a fact the alleged is in fact guilty of the crime they are charged with...Jesus still allows us to let those guilty go unpunished until He punishes them. Let's read scripture;
Matt.13
[24] Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
[25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
[26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
[27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
[28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
[29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
[30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Above Jesus tells us to let the guilty and the righteous live together until His return, lest a mistake is made and the wheat (righteous) and the tare (wicked) are rooted up together, punishing both.
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Matt.13
[24] Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
[25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
[26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
[27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
[28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
[29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
[30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Above Jesus tells us to let the guilty and the righteous live together until His return, lest a mistake is made and the wheat (righteous) and the tare (wicked) are rooted up together, punishing both.
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OH. So God changed His mind, then?
about the Sabbath Laws that SDA claim are the true test of salvation?
NICE TRY.
your signature:
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Eccl.12:13
well? what will it be for you? LAW (which condemns) or Faith (which saves, by the Grace of God)?
apparently you have not read the Mosaic Law (Covenant) in totality.
God said PUT THEM TO DEATH.
now you are again mixing old wine with new?
when it suits you?
you don't even understand the parable of the sower - no surprise, for since you have chosen Moses, there is a veil over your heart.
Roamns 3 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
has this pierced your heart yet? have you become conscious of your sin (by pretending to keep the sabbath for righteousness, yet not keeping it at all)? this is SIN.
for those who work (under LAW), their wage is DEBT.
about the Sabbath Laws that SDA claim are the true test of salvation?
NICE TRY.
your signature:
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." Eccl.12:13
well? what will it be for you? LAW (which condemns) or Faith (which saves, by the Grace of God)?
apparently you have not read the Mosaic Law (Covenant) in totality.
God said PUT THEM TO DEATH.
now you are again mixing old wine with new?
when it suits you?
you don't even understand the parable of the sower - no surprise, for since you have chosen Moses, there is a veil over your heart.
Roamns 3 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
has this pierced your heart yet? have you become conscious of your sin (by pretending to keep the sabbath for righteousness, yet not keeping it at all)? this is SIN.
for those who work (under LAW), their wage is DEBT.
E
Matt.13
[24] Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
[25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
[26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
[27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
[28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
[29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
[30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Above Jesus tells us to let the guilty and the righteous live together until His return, lest a mistake is made and the wheat (righteous) and the tare (wicked) are rooted up together, punishing both.
If I am in error as to understanding the above parable, please let me know where such as error was made. The last thing I want to do is to mislead others in the word of God.
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[24] Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
[25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
[26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
[27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
[28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
[29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
[30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Above Jesus tells us to let the guilty and the righteous live together until His return, lest a mistake is made and the wheat (righteous) and the tare (wicked) are rooted up together, punishing both.
If I am in error as to understanding the above parable, please let me know where such as error was made. The last thing I want to do is to mislead others in the word of God.
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typically for SDA, when trapped by NT truth after thrusting Mosiac Law on the people, you change the subject entirely.
my point was that you do not understand the parable of the sower if you are applying it as a justification for not obeying THE WHOLE OF THE LAW as you claim to do:
if you want to go back under the Old Covenant, keep ALL OF IT.
Exodus 35
Sabbath Regulations
1Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. 3Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”
James 2 10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point, he hath become guilty of all;
Hebrews 10 1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship
why are you claiming to "keep" the sabbath biblically, while not obeying the LAW and putting to death transgressors?
remember, you claim you are obeying the LAW given to MOSES at Sinai.
my point was that you do not understand the parable of the sower if you are applying it as a justification for not obeying THE WHOLE OF THE LAW as you claim to do:
if you want to go back under the Old Covenant, keep ALL OF IT.
Exodus 35
Sabbath Regulations
1Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. 3Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”
James 2 10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point, he hath become guilty of all;
Hebrews 10 1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship
why are you claiming to "keep" the sabbath biblically, while not obeying the LAW and putting to death transgressors?
remember, you claim you are obeying the LAW given to MOSES at Sinai.