Sabbath: The Lord's Day

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

Where is it written that Sunday is lawful and good?

Why do you think I'm twisting scriptures?

There twisted because you never read them before or your pastors set them
In order before. It's obvious you never heard the sabbath taught this way before
The scriptures are there and they are not going away

Servants of God keep the sabbath day

John 10:27 (KJV)
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Do you hear Jesus voice ?

Listen

John 14:15 (KJV)
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

angelofmercy · Aug 19, 2012

ozell said:

I have. I used to worry EVERY saturday making pizzas about "disobeying"! But my "pastor" didn't teach me what I know now. Neither did any man teach me.

Do I really have to show you a written verse that says it's lawful to do good on sundays? You honor the sabbath by ABIDING IN YOUR CALLING. Whether of circumcision or of uncircumcision it matters not. Keeping the commandments of God is all that matters. I see no other God but one. And it is to Him that I simply am what I am!

BLESSED is the DEAD which die in the Lord! Their works do follow them.

angelofmercy · Aug 19, 2012

The sabbath is a MADE thing! It was CREATED for man and not man for the sabbath. I will not bow to any made thing, including saturday.

Laodicea · Aug 19, 2012

angelofmercy said:

The sabbath was made by God, we do not bow to the sabbath but, the one who made the sabbauh on His day. It is called the Sabbath of the Lord.

angelofmercy · Aug 19, 2012

Laodicea said:

What wasn't made by God? But how do you not bow to it when you would seek to kill all who don't honor this day as you do?

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

angelofmercy said:

Your not dead

And the scriptures says that we must have a teacher

Romans 10:13-16 (KJV)
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

[14] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard?

and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15] And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

[16] But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

How do you know about the word of God without a preacher?

How do you know the oracles of God without. Israelite or Jew?

Romans 3:1-2 (KJV)
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? [2] Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

Where did you get your answers from?

Yourself?

Who told you to worship on Sunday?

God did not

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

angelofmercy said:

Who created the seventh day?

Let's read

Genesis 2:1-3 (KJV)
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. [2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. [3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Where do you think the 7th day or sabbath come from?

Exodus 16:26 (KJV)
Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.

Let's read verse 4 and you tell me why the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th and 7th day of the week is not included
In the creation?

Genesis 2:4 (KJV)
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

These days of the week are part of our creation on our earth.

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

angelofmercy said:

You worry because of a lack of understanding

Listen to these words below

Isaiah 58:13-14 (KJV)
If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord , honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: [14] Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord ; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it .

On the sabbath you are to delight yourself in the Lord

You k ow you are not to cook or make things on the sabbath
This is what Friday is for preparation

Listen again to these words

1 John 5:3 (KJV)
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The sabbath is part of the commandments so it is not grievous

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

1 John 5:3 (KJV)
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Guess what John wrote this after Jesus death ad resurrection

The commandments and sabbath are still valid

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

THE FIRST DAY (SUNDAY) OR THE SEVENTH DAY (SATURDAY)?

Every Sunday millions upon millions of people all over the world attend church services. To most it's an automatic occurrence and they have never given their actions a second thought. It probably would seem blasphemous for these people to change their day of worship. After all, this is the way of the world and has been so for some time. Nevertheless, the bible says that Satan has deceived the whole world (Revelation 12:9).

cenallen · Aug 19, 2012

ozell said:

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Jeremiah 31 31 Lo, days are coming, an affirmation of Jehovah, And I have made with the house of Israel And with the house of Judah a new covenant, 32 Not like the covenant that I made with their fathers, In the day of My laying hold on their hand, To bring them out of the land of Egypt, In that they made void My covenant, And I ruled over them -- an affirmation of Jehovah. 33 For this is the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people. 34 And they do not teach any more Each his neighbour, and each his brother, Saying, Know ye Jehovah, For they all know Me, from their least unto their greatest, An affirmation of Jehovah; For I pardon their iniquity, And of their sin I make mention no more.

Luke 22 20 In like manner, also, the cup after the supping, saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in my blood, that for you is being poured forth.

Hebrews 8 13 In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and grows old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 9 15 And because of this He is the negotiator of a new Covenant, in order that, since a life has been given in atonement for the offences committed under the first Covenant, those who have been called may receive the eternal inheritance which has been promised to them.

Hebrews 9 16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

Many people fail to realize that Sunday is the first day of the week. This ignorance is due to the fact that Monday is the first work/school day in most countries. However, Sunday is actually the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh day. Any calendar, dictionary or encyclopedia will prove this fact.

Some will argue that it's impossible to know which day is which. They believe the days have changed over time. However, the bible speaks of a seven day week and we still live according to this rule today. This is no accident. Past nations have even tried to shorten and lengthen God's weekly institution, but of course they failed. Man has also come up with names (after pagan gods) for the days, but it is no coincidence that each day is still known by it's perspective number (1-7). God has not allowed the days of the week to be altered over the centuries. Even during the sixteenth century when the world adopted our present calendar, the Gregorian, the days of the week did not change.

cenallen · Aug 19, 2012

ozell said:

Romans 3 9What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

10As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17And the way of peace have they not known:

18There is no fear of God before their eyes.

19Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

cenallen · Aug 19, 2012

ozell said:

Many people fail to realize that Sunday is the first day of the week. This ignorance is due to the fact that Monday is the first work/school day in most countries. However, Sunday is actually the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh day. Any calendar, dictionary or encyclopedia will prove this fact.

Some will argue that it's impossible to know which day is which. They believe the days have changed over time. However, the bible speaks of a seven day week and we still live according to this rule today. This is no accident. Past nations have even tried to shorten and lengthen God's weekly institution, but of course they failed. Man has also come up with names (after pagan gods) for the days, but it is no coincidence that each day is still known by it's perspective number (1-7). God has not allowed the days of the week to be altered over the centuries. Even during the sixteenth century when the world adopted our present calendar, the Gregorian, the days of the week did not change.

good luck to you toiling under a covenant that no longer exists.

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

cenallen said:

What covenant is that?

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

cenallen said:

Which one are you not under ?

Exodus 20:1,3-5,7-8,12-17 (KJV)
And God spake all these words, saying,

3] Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image

7] Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain;

8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

12] Honour thy father and thy mother:

. [13] Thou shalt not kill

. [14] Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15] Thou shalt not steal.

[16] Thou shalt not bear false witness

17] Thou shalt not covet

Which one you can't keep or refuse to keep?

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

cenallen said:

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Jeremiah 31 31 Lo, days are coming, an affirmation of Jehovah, And I have made with the house of Israel And with the house of Judah a new covenant, 32 Not like the covenant that I made with their fathers, In the day of My laying hold on their hand, To bring them out of the land of Egypt, In that they made void My covenant, And I ruled over them -- an affirmation of Jehovah. 33 For this is the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people. 34 And they do not teach any more Each his neighbour, and each his brother, Saying, Know ye Jehovah, For they all know Me, from their least unto their greatest, An affirmation of Jehovah; For I pardon their iniquity, And of their sin I make mention no more.

Luke 22 20 In like manner, also, the cup after the supping, saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in my blood, that for you is being poured forth.

Hebrews 8 13 In that he says, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and grows old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 9 15 And because of this He is the negotiator of a new Covenant, in order that, since a life has been given in atonement for the offences committed under the first Covenant, those who have been called may receive the eternal inheritance which has been promised to them.

Hebrews 9 16 For where a covenant is, there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.

What law changed?

Commandments
Feast days
Circumcision
Sabbath day
Dietary laws
Animal sacrifice

Which one?

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

Others will say that it really doesn't matter what day you attend church. "You should worship God everyday" or "everyday is the Sabbath day," they will zealously proclaim.

Well, why has the world set aside Sunday as it's day of worship (there is a reason, which we will discuss later) instead of any and every day?

Sure you should do well and think about God every day, but everyday cannot be the Sabbath day. God in his wisdom knew that man would be consumed with his daily activities. Therefore, he set one day aside for man to come together and worship him.

The Sabbath begins at sundown Friday and last until sundown Saturday.

(Each day starts in the evening, instead of at midnight, "and the evening and morning were the fifth day" Genesis 1:23).

The entire bible stresses that it is of utmost importance that we observe (attend church) the Lord's Sabbath, the seventh (7th) day.

It really does matter.

cenallen · Aug 19, 2012

ozell said:

were you at Mount Sinai?

Galatians 4 21 Tell me, ye who are willing to be under law, the law do ye not hear? 22 for it hath been written, that Abraham had two sons, one by the maid-servant, and one by the free-woman, 23 but he who is of the maid-servant, according to flesh hath been, and he who is of the free-woman, through the promise; 24 which things are allegorized, for these are the two covenants: one, indeed, from mount Sinai, to servitude bringing forth, which is Hagar; 25 for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now is, and is in servitude with her children, 26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,

27 for it hath been written, 'Rejoice, O barren, who art not bearing; break forth and cry, thou who art not travailing, because many are the children of the desolate -- more than of her having the husband.'

28 And we, brethren, as Isaac, are children of promise, 29 but as then he who was born according to the flesh did persecute him according to the spirit, so also now;

30 but what saith the Writing? 'Cast forth the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-woman;'

31 then, brethren, we are not a maid-servant's children, but the free-woman's.

ozell · Aug 19, 2012

"Saturday is the seventh day" (World Book Encyclopedia, Volume 17, 1989 Edition)

Man realizes the importance of setting one day aside to worship God. Nevertheless, he has tried to change God's set time and law of Sabbath worship. "And he shall speak great words against the most High...and think to change times and laws..." (Daniel 7:25).

This change went into effect on March 7, 321 A.D., by Emperor Constantine of Rome. Constantine, "...enjoined Sunday rest from labor, except agricultural" (Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. 21, 1945).

It is even recorded that Constantine used violence to enforce his new law, because the seventh day Sabbath was still being observed by true servants of God.

Now if it would seem blasphemous for people to change their day of worship today, how do you think God felt when man changed his?

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