Sabbath: The Lord's Day

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Revelation 22: 11-12


11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
 
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were you at Mount Sinai?


Galatians 4 21 Tell me, ye who are willing to be under law, the law do ye not hear? 22 for it hath been written, that Abraham had two sons, one by the maid-servant, and one by the free-woman, 23 but he who is of the maid-servant, according to flesh hath been, and he who is of the free-woman, through the promise; 24 which things are allegorized, for these are the two covenants: one, indeed, from mount Sinai, to servitude bringing forth, which is Hagar; 25 for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now is, and is in servitude with her children, 26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,

27 for it hath been written, 'Rejoice, O barren, who art not bearing; break forth and cry, thou who art not travailing, because many are the children of the desolate -- more than of her having the husband.'

28 And we, brethren, as Isaac, are children of promise, 29 but as then he who was born according to the flesh did persecute him according to the spirit, so also now;

30 but what saith the Writing? 'Cast forth the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-woman;'

31 then, brethren, we are not a maid-servant's children, but the free-woman's.
Was you there when God made the covenant with Isaac and Ishamael?

What were those covenants?

And answer my questions?

Which law can you not keep?
Which law was done away with ?
 
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Where is it written that Sunday is lawful and good?

Why do you think I'm twisting scriptures?

There twisted because you never read them before or your pastors set them
In order before. It's obvious you never heard the sabbath taught this way before
The scriptures are there and they are not going away

Servants of God keep the sabbath day

John 10:27 (KJV)
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Do you hear Jesus voice ?

Listen

John 14:15 (KJV)
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
show me a single weekly sabbath day commandment in the New Testament.
if our salvation hinges on it, it should be crystal clear.
 
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Was you there when God made the covenant with Isaac and Ishamael?

What were those covenants?
friend, you clearly have not yet heard the Good News.



Galatians 4 21 Tell me, ye who are willing to be under law, the law do ye not hear? 22 for it hath been written, that Abraham had two sons, one by the maid-servant, and one by the free-woman, 23 but he who is of the maid-servant, according to flesh hath been, and he who is of the free-woman, through the promise; 24 which things are allegorized, for these are the two covenants: one, indeed, from mount Sinai, to servitude bringing forth, which is Hagar; 25 for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now is, and is in servitude with her children, 26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,

27 for it hath been written, 'Rejoice, O barren, who art not bearing; break forth and cry, thou who art not travailing, because many are the children of the desolate -- more than of her having the husband.'

28 And we, brethren, as Isaac, are children of promise, 29 but as then he who was born according to the flesh did persecute him according to the spirit, so also now;

30 but what saith the Writing? 'Cast forth the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-woman;'

31 then, brethren, we are not a maid-servant's children, but the free-woman's.


this is saying the Old Covenant (LAW given at Sinai) is bondage. it can not save you.
the New Covenant (forgiveness of sins and eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ) is freedom.

those who attempt to be justified by the Law are judged by the Law and will NOT be heirs with those who place their faith in CHRIST.

do you understand this? paul is comparing israel who sought their own righteousness through the Law to Ishmael - cast out!

Jesus fulfilled the LAW for us.

Romans 1 16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, 'The just shall live by faith',
 
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The kingdom of Christ was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1) which always fell on "the morrow after the sabbath" (Lev 23:15-16) hence, on Sunday. So the church started out meeting for worship on the first day of the week (Acts 2:42) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, (Acts 20:1) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you..(1 Corinthians 16:2)
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: So this scripture in the Old Testament points to the new covenant Jesus Christ established in the New Testament. The law in the old testament was blotted out. Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out the way, nailing it to his cross:
If you keep the Sabbath then you have to also do all the other things the law of Moses commanded Colossians 2:16-17; 20-22 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is Christ. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
And you do realize there were MANY sabbaths. Read your Bible! So if you want to keep the sabbath holy make sure you keep ALL of them holy not just on Saturdays!
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. (Ceremonial Law Abolished)
 
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The kingdom of Christ was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1) which always fell on "the morrow after the sabbath" (Lev 23:15-16) hence, on Sunday. So the church started out meeting for worship on the first day of the week (Acts 2:42) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, (Acts 20:1) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you..(1 Corinthians 16:2)
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: So this scripture in the Old Testament points to the new covenant Jesus Christ established in the New Testament. The law in the old testament was blotted out. Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out the way, nailing it to his cross:
If you keep the Sabbath then you have to also do all the other things the law of Moses commanded Colossians 2:16-17; 20-22 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is Christ. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
And you do realize there were MANY sabbaths. Read your Bible! So if you want to keep the sabbath holy make sure you keep ALL of them holy not just on Saturdays!
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. (Ceremonial Law Abolished)
The ceremonial law is abolished but, not the Law of God. Also read acts properly both Jews and Gentiles in the early church kept the Sabbath of the Lord.
 
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The kingdom of Christ was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1) which always fell on "the morrow after the sabbath" (Lev 23:15-16) hence, on Sunday. So the church started out meeting for worship on the first day of the week (Acts 2:42) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, (Acts 20:1) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you..(1 Corinthians 16:2)
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: So this scripture in the Old Testament points to the new covenant Jesus Christ established in the New Testament. The law in the old testament was blotted out. Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out the way, nailing it to his cross:
If you keep the Sabbath then you have to also do all the other things the law of Moses commanded Colossians 2:16-17; 20-22 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is Christ. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
And you do realize there were MANY sabbaths. Read your Bible! So if you want to keep the sabbath holy make sure you keep ALL of them holy not just on Saturdays!
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. (Ceremonial Law Abolished)
At lest you gave the bible........Acts 2:42 dos not mean they are meeting on Sunday verse 46 a little latter tells us that they broke bread every day with one accord from house to house.

1 cor 16:2 Read verse 1 and you will see this was only for the churches of Galatia and the Corinthians and verse 2 says save up money on the first day that way they didn't have to come up with anything when he comes, notice he did not take it up on the first day plus he dos not say what day he was coming. It says nothing about going to church and giving on Sunday.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Ok I am glad you know about the other Sabbath days and yes they are Ceremonial laws which in fact are Abolished but the only thing you missed was that the 7th day Sabbath was not Ceremonial it has been here from creation. Notice Lev 23:37-38 verse 38 tells us that all those other sabbath days are added to the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord.

Also I am glad you noticed that Moses wrote the ceremonial laws but God wrote the 10 commandments with his own finger. And we know the 10 commandments are still here to stay that's what should be on our hearts and minds in the covenant of heb 8:10.
 
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show me a single weekly sabbath day commandment in the New Testament.
if our salvation hinges on it, it should be crystal clear.


Revelation 22:13-15

King James Version (KJV)

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


what are the commandments? John named a few now you finish the rest.

if you don't keep the commandments you cant enter into new Jerusalem

lets answer your question again straight from Jesus mouth

Matthew 19:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


in order to receive eternal life Jesus said keep the commandments
 
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The kingdom of Christ was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1) which always fell on "the morrow after the sabbath" (Lev 23:15-16) hence, on Sunday. So the church started out meeting for worship on the first day of the week (Acts 2:42) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, (Acts 20:1) Upon the first day of the week let every one of you..(1 Corinthians 16:2)
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: So this scripture in the Old Testament points to the new covenant Jesus Christ established in the New Testament. The law in the old testament was blotted out. Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out the way, nailing it to his cross:
If you keep the Sabbath then you have to also do all the other things the law of Moses commanded Colossians 2:16-17; 20-22 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is Christ. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
And you do realize there were MANY sabbaths. Read your Bible! So if you want to keep the sabbath holy make sure you keep ALL of them holy not just on Saturdays!
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. (Ceremonial Law Abolished)

the sacrificial law was abolished

all over the bible it tells us this.

on the sabbath did Moses or Jesus sacrifice a lamb or a bull, what about Paul when he taught the gentiles on the sabbath day did he sacrifice anything.

the other sabbath spoken of in the bible is the feast days and high days which are to be kept.

better yet show me the laws of Moses?
 
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HELLO FRIEND IN THE LORD HOW ARE YOU TODAY
 
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cenallen;762915]friend, you clearly have not yet heard the Good News.


that's not the Good news

tell me what the Good news is since you brought it up.


Galatians 4 21 Tell me, ye who are willing to be under law, the law do ye not hear? 22 for it hath been written, that Abraham had two sons, one by the maid-servant, and one by the free-woman, 23 but he who is of the maid-servant, according to flesh hath been, and he who is of the free-woman, through the promise; 24 which things are allegorized, for these are the two covenants: one, indeed, from mount Sinai, to servitude bringing forth, which is Hagar; 25 for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now is, and is in servitude with her children, 26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,

27 for it hath been written, 'Rejoice, O barren, who art not bearing; break forth and cry, thou who art not travailing, because many are the children of the desolate -- more than of her having the husband.'

28 And we, brethren, as Isaac, are children of promise, 29 but as then he who was born according to the flesh did persecute him according to the spirit, so also now;

30 but what saith the Writing? 'Cast forth the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-woman;'

31 then, brethren, we are not a maid-servant's children, but the free-woman's.


this is saying the Old Covenant (LAW given at Sinai) is bondage. it can not save you.
the New Covenant (forgiveness of sins and eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ) is freedom.

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which one of the commandments is bondage? not one! so now you have to look else where. what other covenant was given at mount sinia?




those who attempt to be justified by the Law are judged by the Law and will NOT be heirs with those who place their faith in CHRIST.

Romans 2:

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.


before God I will be justifed by doing his Law.

what are you taliking about , you have to read all of God's word before you make your statements



do you understand this? paul is comparing israel who sought their own righteousness through the Law to Ishmael - cast out!


what is Israel own righteousness?




Jesus fulfilled the LAW for us.



he did but you got the wrong Law




Romans 1 16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, 'The just shall live by faith'

what is God's righteousness that we are to live by?


faith is belief so what are we to beleive in or about Jesus?
 
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Matthew 27:



50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.


51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

why did the veil of the temple rent in two?
 
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Hebrews 10

King James Version (KJV)


10 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.


what covenant was taken away when Jesus died on the cross?
why did the veil in the temple rent in two at Jesus death?

was the commandments or Sabbaths taken away?

or was it the end of the LAW of animal sacrifice?

lets read the bible and get away from denominational doctrines or what my pastor said.
 
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now lets read and see if the sabbath day and God's commandments is OUR righteousness before him


Deuteronomy 6:24-25

King James Version (KJV)


24 And the Lord commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the Lord our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.

25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the Lord our God, as he hath commanded us.

no interpretation needed

keeping the commandments which includes the sabbath day is our righteousness before the Lord
 

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What wasn't made by God? But how do you not bow to it when you would seek to kill all who don't honor this day as you do?
The following teaching from Paul in Romans answers all doubts best:

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

This by no means changes the commandment of Yahweh that the seventh day be hallowed, however those who believe they are obeying His commandment in observing the Sabbath on Sunday are just fine. Personally, after learning the calendar Yeshua used, I could never go back to Sundays, it just seems so much closer to our Maker to observe the Seventh Day the way it was written.
 
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Revelation 22:13-15

King James Version (KJV)

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


what are the commandments? John named a few now you finish the rest.

if you don't keep the commandments you cant enter into new Jerusalem

lets answer your question again straight from Jesus mouth

Matthew 19:15-17

King James Version (KJV)

15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


in order to receive eternal life Jesus said keep the commandments
Originally Posted by cenallen
show me a single weekly sabbath day commandment in the New Testament.
if our salvation hinges on it, it should be crystal clear.


where is the thing you say our salvation hinges on? where is the specific commandment to keep the weekly sabbath as prescribed by Moses FOR the israelites (who failed to keep that covenant, by the way)?

where it is in Jesus' teaching specifically?
even once.



it's not there. did He forget?
or is He the Sabbath?
 
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Matthew 19:15-17
King James Version (KJV)

15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments


in order to receive eternal life Jesus said keep the commandments
and here is the painful irony.
it is tragic that you do not understand this passage. what is worse, is that you are twisting it to say the opposite of what it means.

why don't you post it in context?

Matthew 19 1And so it was when Yeshua had finished these sayings, he picked up from Galilee, and he came to the borders of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2And great crowds came after him and he healed them there.
3And the Pharisees came to him and they were testing him, and they were saying, “Is it legal for a man to divorce his wife for any cause?” 4But he answered and said to them, “Have you not read that he who made from the beginning, made them male and female?” 5And he said, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall cleave to his wife and the two of them shall be one flesh.” 6“Therefore they were not two, but one flesh. The things therefore that God has united let not a man separate.” 7They were saying to him, “Why therefore did Moses command to give a writing of divorce and to send her away?” 8He said to them, “Moses, confronting the callousness of your heart, let you divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.” 9But I say to you, “Whoever divorces his wife apart from adultery and will take another, commits adultery, and whoever will take her who is divorced commits adultery.”

10His disciples were saying to him, “If the accusations are thus between a man and a wife, it is not expedient to take a wife.” 11But he said to them, “Not every man can receive this saying, except he to whom it is given.” 12“For there are eunuchs who were born so from their mother's womb and there are eunuchs who became eunuchs by men and there are those who have made themselves eunuchs for the cause of the Kingdom of Heaven. Whoever can receive it let him receive it.”

13And they brought children to him that he might lay his hand upon them and pray, and his disciples rebuked them. 14But Yeshua said to them, “Let the children come to me and do not forbid them, for the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to such as these.” 15And he laid his hand upon them and went on from there.

16 And one came near and said to him, “Good teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” 17But he said to him, “Why do you call me good? There is none good except God alone.


do you think this man who came to Jesus knew who He was?
look at his question:

"Good teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?"


Matthew 19 But if you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18He said to him, “Which ones?” But Yeshua said to him, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not testify falsely.” 19“Honor your father and your mother”, and “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”


can eternal life be gained through keeping the Law?
does scripture say any man has kept the law perfectly?


Romans 3 20 wherefore by works of law shall no flesh be declared righteous before Him, for through law is a knowledge of sin.

does no flesh mean some? or does it mean none.
sooner or later you're going to have to do something about Paul.

Romans 3 21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—

Galatians 2 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


Matthew 19 20That young man said to him, “I have kept all these from my childhood; what am I lacking?” 21Yeshua said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go sell your possessions and give to the poor and you will have treasure in Heaven, and come after me.” 22But that young man heard this saying and he went away, as it was grievous to him, for he had many possessions.


if the young man knew who Jesus was, and what He was offering, would he have turned away?
after he claimed to have kept the commandments all his life, did Jesus indicate he would inherit eternal life, or was he yet lacking something?


what did the man lack?


Luke 18 22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.


Romans 9 31 but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it.

Romans 10:3 Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness.

"That young man said to him, “I have kept all these from my childhood"

Romans 3 27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith.

what will you do about Paul?

Galatians 5:4
Those of you who are trying to be justified by the law have been cut off from the Messiah. You have fallen away from grace
 
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that's not the Good news
tell me what the Good news is since you brought it up.

which one of the commandments is bondage? not one! so now you have to look else where. what other covenant was given at mount sinia?
you tell me.
how many covenants were given at Sinai? which one (if there are more than one) given at Sinai SAVES YOU?

and is the Promise made to Abraham the same as the Sinai Covenant?

this is intolerable that you're even holding a bible and speaking out when you do not know the New Covenant.

Galatians 5 4 Those of you who are trying to be justified by the law have been cut off from the Messiah. You have fallen away from grace


Galatians 3 1 O thoughtless Galatians, who did bewitch you, not to obey the truth -- before whose eyes Jesus Christ was described before among you crucified? 2 this only do I wish to learn from you -- by works of law the Spirit did ye receive, or by the hearing of faith? 3 so thoughtless are ye! having begun in the Spirit, now in the flesh do ye end? 4 so many things did ye suffer in vain! if, indeed, even in vain. 5 He, therefore, who is supplying to you the Spirit, and working mighty acts among you -- by works of law or by the hearing of faith is it?

6 according as Abraham did believe God, and it was reckoned to him -- to righteousness; 7 know ye, then, that those of faith -- these are sons of Abraham, 8 and the Writing having foreseen that by faith God doth declare righteous the nations did proclaim before the good news to Abraham -- 9 'Blessed in thee shall be all the nations;' so that those of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham,

10 for as many as are of works of law are under a curse, for it hath been written, 'Cursed is every one who is not remaining in all things that have been written in the Book of the Law -- to do them,' 11 and that in law no one is declared righteous with God, is evident, because 'The righteous by faith shall live;' 12 and the law is not by faith, but -- 'The man who did them shall live in them.' 13 Christ did redeem us from the curse of the law, having become for us a curse, for it hath been written, 'Cursed is every one who is hanging on a tree,' 14 that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus, that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith.

15 Brethren, as a man I say it, even of man a confirmed covenant no one doth make void or doth add to, 16 and to Abraham were the promises spoken, and to his seed; He doth not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many, but as of one, 'And to thy seed,' which is Christ; 17 and this I say, A covenant confirmed before by God to Christ, the law, that came four hundred and thirty years after, doth not set aside, to make void the promise, 18 for if by law be the inheritance, it is no more by promise, but to Abraham through promise did God grant it.

19 Why, then, the law? on account of the transgressions it was added, till the seed might come to which the promise hath been made, having been set in order through messengers in the hand of a mediator -- 20 and the mediator is not of one, and God is one -- 21 the law, then, is against the promises of God? -- let it not be! for if a law was given that was able to make alive, truly by law there would have been the righteousness, 22 but the Writing did shut up the whole under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ may be given to those believing.

23 And before the coming of the faith, under law we were being kept, shut up to the faith about to be revealed, 24 so that the law became our child-conductor -- to Christ, that by faith we may be declared righteous, 25 and the faith having come, no more under a child-conductor are we, 26 for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for as many as to Christ were baptized did put on Christ; 28 there is not here Jew or Greek, there is not here servant nor freeman, there is not here male and female, for all ye are one in Christ Jesus; 29 and if ye are of Christ then of Abraham ye are seed, and according to promise -- heirs.
 
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Originally Posted by cenallen
show me a single weekly sabbath day commandment in the New Testament.
if our salvation hinges on it, it should be crystal clear.


where is the thing you say our salvation hinges on? where is the specific commandment to keep the weekly sabbath as prescribed by Moses FOR the israelites (who failed to keep that covenant, by the way)?

where it is in Jesus' teaching specifically?
even once.



it's not there. did He forget?
or is He the Sabbath?
Jesus is the captain of our salvation

Hebrews 2:10 (KJV)
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

We are to follow our captain

Matthew 4:19 (KJV)
And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

Our captain said keep his law which includes the sabbath day

John 14:15 (KJV)
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Our captain went to church on the sabbath day

Luke 4:16 (KJV)
And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

If Jesus is your captain and you love him you are to keep the sabbath

You cannot take out this commandment